Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-09-20 Thread Ellis Teer

Vincent,

Interesting, thanks for posting that.

Is it possible to compare the number of hours/day contributed by day 
time vs night time people?

I am curious how much truth there might be to the question, do companies 
/groups drive jakarta or do individuals?  Or to what degree either may 
be true.

-Ellis

Vincent Massol wrote:
 Hi,
 
 A week ago, I have sent an email to all Apache committers. I was curious
 to know who the other committers where, whether they shared the same
 beliefs I have, etc.
 
 I have posted the questions I sent and the results here:
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/~vmassol/whoarewepoll/docs/site/poll/poll.html
 
 I haven't done any analysis yet of the results. Do you think there are
 any useful analysis that can be made out of this?
 
 Does it make you react in any way?
 
 ATM, I have posted this on my own jakarta web page. However, I you think
 it is worthwhile, we could add it to the jakarta/xml/etc main web site,
 so that others can get a feeling of what to expect and what kind of
 persons the existing committers are. For jakarta, we could put a link to
 that page on http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html
 
 Comments?
 Thanks
 
 -Vincent
 
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RE: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-09-20 Thread Vincent Massol

Hi Ellis,

I've just compiled the result to answer your question Who drives
Jakarta in term of manpower?. I'll put them online soon.

Here are the results (out of 52 answers):

A- 14 persons are pushed by companies
B- 33 persons are individuals
C- 5 persons are both

Average participation for A: 3.44
Average participation for B: 1.73
Average participation for C: 3.62

But ...

Total number of hours/day:

For A: 48.25
For B: 14.5 
For C: 57.15

So the result seems to be: Jakarta is drive as much by individuals than
by companies in term of hourly participation to projects.

Cheers,
-Vincent

 -Original Message-
 From: Ellis Teer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 20 September 2002 07:51
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?
 
 Vincent,
 
 Interesting, thanks for posting that.
 
 Is it possible to compare the number of hours/day contributed by day
 time vs night time people?
 
 I am curious how much truth there might be to the question, do
companies
 /groups drive jakarta or do individuals?  Or to what degree either may
 be true.
 
 -Ellis
 
 Vincent Massol wrote:
  Hi,
 
  A week ago, I have sent an email to all Apache committers. I was
curious
  to know who the other committers where, whether they shared the same
  beliefs I have, etc.
 
  I have posted the questions I sent and the results here:
 
 
http://jakarta.apache.org/~vmassol/whoarewepoll/docs/site/poll/poll.html
 
  I haven't done any analysis yet of the results. Do you think there
are
  any useful analysis that can be made out of this?
 
  Does it make you react in any way?
 
  ATM, I have posted this on my own jakarta web page. However, I you
think
  it is worthwhile, we could add it to the jakarta/xml/etc main web
site,
  so that others can get a feeling of what to expect and what kind of
  persons the existing committers are. For jakarta, we could put a
link to
  that page on http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html
 
  Comments?
  Thanks
 
  -Vincent
 
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RE: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-09-20 Thread Vincent Massol



 -Original Message-
 From: Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 20 September 2002 09:19
 To: 'Jakarta General List'
 Subject: RE: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?
 
 Hi Vincent,
 
 I think you accidentally swapped results for B and C on your last
table.

Oops. Sorry. Yes you're right.

 According to my crappy Windows calculator, it should read
 
 A (company)  - 14 people - 3.44 h/day each - 48.25 total hours a day
 B (personal) - 33 people - 1.73 h/day each - 57.09 total hours a day
 A (both) - 05 people - 3.62 h/day each - 18.10 total hours a day
  ^
  C

 
 So people with a personal drive contribute more hours in total than
 company-sponsored ones, even if each one has less time to spare. Is
this
 right?

Yes, although I wouldn't say more because we don't have enough numbers
to conclude exactly. I would say about the same.

-Vincent

 
 Un saludo,
 
 Alex.
 
  -Mensaje original-
  De: Vincent Massol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Enviado el: viernes 20 de septiembre de 2002 9:55
  Para: 'Jakarta General List'
  Asunto: RE: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?
 
 
  Hi Ellis,
 
  I've just compiled the result to answer your question Who drives
  Jakarta in term of manpower?. I'll put them online soon.
 
  Here are the results (out of 52 answers):
 
  A- 14 persons are pushed by companies
  B- 33 persons are individuals
  C- 5 persons are both
 
  Average participation for A: 3.44
  Average participation for B: 1.73
  Average participation for C: 3.62
 
  But ...
 
  Total number of hours/day:
 
  For A: 48.25
  For B: 14.5
  For C: 57.15
 
  So the result seems to be: Jakarta is drive as much by
  individuals than
  by companies in term of hourly participation to projects.
 
  Cheers,
  -Vincent
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Ellis Teer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 20 September 2002 07:51
   To: Jakarta General List
   Subject: Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?
  
   Vincent,
  
   Interesting, thanks for posting that.
  
   Is it possible to compare the number of hours/day contributed by
day
   time vs night time people?
  
   I am curious how much truth there might be to the question, do
  companies
   /groups drive jakarta or do individuals?  Or to what degree
  either may
   be true.
  
   -Ellis
  
   Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi,
   
A week ago, I have sent an email to all Apache committers. I was
  curious
to know who the other committers where, whether they
  shared the same
beliefs I have, etc.
   
I have posted the questions I sent and the results here:
   
   
  http://jakarta.apache.org/~vmassol/whoarewepoll/docs/site/poll
  /poll.html
   
I haven't done any analysis yet of the results. Do you think
there
  are
any useful analysis that can be made out of this?
   
Does it make you react in any way?
   
ATM, I have posted this on my own jakarta web page. However, I
you
  think
it is worthwhile, we could add it to the jakarta/xml/etc main
web
  site,
so that others can get a feeling of what to expect and
  what kind of
persons the existing committers are. For jakarta, we could put a
  link to
that page on http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html
   
Comments?
Thanks
   
-Vincent
   
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RE: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-09-20 Thread Martin Cooper



 -Original Message-
 From: Vincent Massol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:56 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?
 
 
 Hi,
 
 A week ago, I have sent an email to all Apache committers. I 
 was curious
 to know who the other committers where, whether they shared the same
 beliefs I have, etc.
 
 I have posted the questions I sent and the results here:
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/~vmassol/whoarewepoll/docs/site/poll
/poll.html
 
 I haven't done any analysis yet of the results. Do you think there are
 any useful analysis that can be made out of this?
 
 Does it make you react in any way?

My initial reaction is that, with responses from only around 1 in 7
committers, we shouldn't be drawing any big conclusions from the data
collected. ;-)

--
Martin Cooper


 
 ATM, I have posted this on my own jakarta web page. However, 
 I you think
 it is worthwhile, we could add it to the jakarta/xml/etc main 
 web site,
 so that others can get a feeling of what to expect and what kind of
 persons the existing committers are. For jakarta, we could 
 put a link to
 that page on http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html
 
 Comments?
 Thanks
 
 -Vincent
 
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[job] DC area jakarta position

2002-09-20 Thread Lloyd H. Meinholz

I am looking for a java developer that has some experience either
working on or with jakarta projects for a job with CSC in the Washington
DC area. I'm seeking a full-time employee, not a consultant. If you are
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Thanks,

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