Re: Newsletter - Request for content

2002-12-02 Thread Erik Hatcher
I was mostly off-line over the Thanksgiving weekend and have been caught 
up with lots of other miscellaneous tasks when I did get some computer 
time.  I'm not going to be able to submit an Ant posting this time, sorry.

	Erik


Rob Oxspring wrote:
Hello again,

We're very nearly done with another month so it's time to pester people about the newsletter again.  As usual, I've cc'd those that
submitted content last month in the hope that they will either submit something again, or manage to persuade someone else to take
over writing for the November issue.

If anybody else fancies doing a write up of the progress in some Jakarta project it then please send it in.  For a inspiration on
content and style you can review previous entries at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/, although new styles and ideas are welcome
too.

Planned timescale:
Submissions sent to me by midnight Monday 2-Dec-2002.
Drafts will be posted on Tuesday and Wednesday as needed for alterations and last minuters.
Final copy sent out on [EMAIL PROTECTED] midday 5-Nov-2002
All times GMT.

Thanks,

Rob


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Re: The organization of xml.apache.org

2002-12-02 Thread Costin Manolache
On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 16:41, Sam Ruby wrote:

   Separate code bases with separate communities should be separate
   projects.  Independent of the size of the codebase, if the size of
   the community is only a few people, then it is not an ASF project.
   Such efforts can be pursued outside of the ASF, be pursued inside the
   Incubator, or be incorporated inside an existing community – as long
   as all participants in that larger community are treated as peers.
 
 With respect to XML, I honestly don't know how many communities we have. 
   But the above provides a recipe to find out.  Without changing any 
 physical layout of mailing lists or cvs repositories, we can begin to 
 phase out the karma and voting boundaries between various subprojects. 
 Those that don't wish to participate will be encouraged to form their 
 own separate projects (or move into incubation).
 
 What I like most about such a proposal is that it is completely up to 
 the commiters to decide whether they want opt in or opt out.
 
 What do others think?

( I changed the to: to include jakarta :-)

I think it is a good idea in general, as long as it is done gradually.

I personally think jakarta-commons commit model works fine  ( even if
the one-mailing-list is not working as well :-). Even when it didn't
seem to work that well ( early days of xml-client for example ), it
actually did work as it was supposed to, and I think people learned
to keep track of what they need and use their vote.

Probably having the walls removed between projects that are close 
( tomcat/jasper and taglibs or struts, etc ) would be a good start.

Costin  



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I win!

2002-12-02 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
Yes, I win!

http://cvs.apache.org/~rubys/committers.html

Ok, that page makes me laugh. =)

-jon

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