Re: Newsletter - Request for content

2003-01-09 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Reduce the frequency - every 2 months has been suggested before.

Has that helped to get more content into the October issue?

 Widen the scope - ant and Avalon have grown up to be (at least
 partially) outside the jakarta scope, should we include
 xml.apache.org?

You could invite them (and anybody else) and add news for whatever
(sub)project has provided input.

 Maybe its fine as it is?

To me it is, thanks a lot.

Stefan

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[OT] Pointedly Extreme Programming

2003-01-09 Thread Ceki Gülcü

This one surely will become a classic:

http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20030109.html


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Looking for OpenSource Java report tool

2003-01-09 Thread Michael Hausl
Hello,
 
I don't know if it is right to ask this question here, if not I am very
sorry, but hope there are some people at Apache Jakarta might know an
anwser.
 
I am looking for an open source Java reporting tool with client side
printing. I guess I surfed the whole web for that, but I was not able to
find something. All I could find are commercial libraries (mostly very
expensive). Printing appears to be not very attractive for Java
developers.
But for a fully enabled business application (that's what I do) printing
is one of the most important features to customers. Every workaround
like producing PDFs and store them in the file system or servlet
generated reports in HTML is not satisfying. Usually customers want to
create their own reports with their CI,...
I guess I needn't say anymore.
 
Is there anyone who can tell me of a library which meets all those
criteria?
 
Thanks in advance
Michael



Re: Looking for OpenSource Java report tool

2003-01-09 Thread Geoff Longman
May this is what you are looking for?

http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/archives/000631.html

Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Hausl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:18 AM
Subject: Looking for OpenSource Java report tool


 Hello,
  
 I don't know if it is right to ask this question here, if not I am very
 sorry, but hope there are some people at Apache Jakarta might know an
 anwser.
  
 I am looking for an open source Java reporting tool with client side
 printing. I guess I surfed the whole web for that, but I was not able to
 find something. All I could find are commercial libraries (mostly very
 expensive). Printing appears to be not very attractive for Java
 developers.
 But for a fully enabled business application (that's what I do) printing
 is one of the most important features to customers. Every workaround
 like producing PDFs and store them in the file system or servlet
 generated reports in HTML is not satisfying. Usually customers want to
 create their own reports with their CI,...
 I guess I needn't say anymore.
  
 Is there anyone who can tell me of a library which meets all those
 criteria?
  
 Thanks in advance
 Michael
 


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Re: Help needed on JMeter nightly builds

2003-01-09 Thread Jordi Salvat i Alabart
Hi Sam.

You'll be happy to know that your effort responding your questions was 
not in vain. Gump runs are now building JMeter and producing meaningful 
results.

Gump is now building the JMeter's distribution files into 
jakarta-jmeter/dist. Would it be possible to copy all files found in 
there to http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-jmeter/nightly/date 
after each build? In this way we'll be able to decide how exactly we 
want to pack up our distribution without having to bug you again.

Just two more questions (hopefully last ones for a while):

1/ Would it be a good idea to run our unit tests during the nightly 
build? On one side, doing so would fit better into the continuous 
integration Gump concept. On the other side, looks like the build 
machines (or at least Nagoya) have a really tough time keeping up with 
the work, and our tests take a while... what's your opinion?

2/ JMeter binary distribution contains all the jars for all the projects 
it depends on. I think it needs to be that way: JMeter is an app for 
plain users, not a library for developers, and we want it to be 
installable and runnable with minimum hassle for the user. The way it 
currently works this would cause those binaries to run against library 
versions different from the ones used at compilation -- which doesn't 
look very nice. The question is: does Gump provide a way to copy some of 
those jars into the jakarta-jmeter/lib directory before the build? Pls. 
note that I said some, because there's a few we just can't distribute 
(licensing issues).

Thanks,

Jordi.


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Re: Help needed on JMeter nightly builds

2003-01-09 Thread Sam Ruby
Jordi Salvat i Alabart wrote:


You'll be happy to know that your effort responding your questions was 
not in vain. Gump runs are now building JMeter and producing meaningful 
results.

:-)


Gump is now building the JMeter's distribution files into 
jakarta-jmeter/dist. Would it be possible to copy all files found in 
there to http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-jmeter/nightly/date 
after each build? In this way we'll be able to decide how exactly we 
want to pack up our distribution without having to bug you again.

Added it to the list for tomorrow.  We'll see how it goes.


Just two more questions (hopefully last ones for a while):

1/ Would it be a good idea to run our unit tests during the nightly 
build? On one side, doing so would fit better into the continuous 
integration Gump concept. On the other side, looks like the build 
machines (or at least Nagoya) have a really tough time keeping up with 
the work, and our tests take a while... what's your opinion?

Go for it.  Yes, Nagoya is a bit pokey, but the price is right.  ;-)


2/ JMeter binary distribution contains all the jars for all the projects 
it depends on. I think it needs to be that way: JMeter is an app for 
plain users, not a library for developers, and we want it to be 
installable and runnable with minimum hassle for the user. The way it 
currently works this would cause those binaries to run against library 
versions different from the ones used at compilation -- which doesn't 
look very nice. The question is: does Gump provide a way to copy some of 
those jars into the jakarta-jmeter/lib directory before the build? Pls. 
note that I said some, because there's a few we just can't distribute 
(licensing issues).

The basic strategy is to specify the the files that you copy with ant 
properties.  You can then tell gump to provide the actual jar name for 
this property.  The easiest way to do this is to move the depend 
elements for the jars that you want to do this with inside the ant 
element, and add a property= attribute.  This is best explained by 
example, so look for logkit.jar in the following files:

http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-gump/project/jakarta-avalon.xml?rev=HEADcontent-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup

http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-avalon/build.xml?rev=HEADcontent-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup

- Sam Ruby

P.S.  Don't be afraid to ask questions.  But perhaps this should be in 
the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list?



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RE: Looking for OpenSource Java report tool

2003-01-09 Thread Michael Hausl
Thanks Laurie and Geoff, your hints help me a lot.
I need to take a closer look at those libraries but I guess at least one
of it is right for me.
Michael


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