Re: log4jME now available

2001-08-08 Thread burtonator
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, Log4j MicroEdition, or log4jME, version 1.0-b1 is now available at God... you *scared* m. I thought you meant Millennium Edition... ;0 Kevin - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

Re: Loggers, loggers, all over the place

2001-08-08 Thread Cedric Berger
Ceki Gülcü wrote: Cedric, If you think that j.u.l has all the features you need then you should use it. Have you actually looked at the contents of j.u.l? No more than 5 minutes. Again, I'm not trying to say that any logging package is better than any another one, because I don't have this

[OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Jon Stevens
Can someone explain to me what the heck web services are so that I can decide whether or not this is even worthwhile to learn about? http://sdc.sun.com/briefings/agenda.cgi?eventkey=5100 I'm guessing it is fancy marketing foo about SOAP/XML-RPC or it is about how to build a website with JSP.

RE: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Waldhoff, Rodney
I'm guessing it [web services] is fancy marketing foo about SOAP/XML-RPC Correct. Web Services generally means SOAP/XML-RPC etc. It's an important part of optimizing your value Chain when dealing with everything from SMEs to large scale enterprises. ;)

Re: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/8/01 8:34 AM, Waldhoff, Rodney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's an important part of optimizing your value Chain when dealing with everything from SMEs to large scale enterprises. ;) HAHAHAHA I'm sure it will increase my ROI on my ENV when my SME hits my JSP and pukes all over my RTFM.

Re: Loggers, loggers, all over the place

2001-08-08 Thread Conor MacNeill
FACT: Jog4J supports JDK 1.1.x and higher, while JogKit only supports JDK 1.2+, and JDK 1.4 logging is only _officialy_ available in JDK 1.4. Not terribly interested in Loggers, but I think I might need a JogKit. Actually I've got a bit of a mainframe, will Jog4J RUN :-) I think you may have

Re: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Peter Donald
Hi, It is basically yet another attempt to bring around interoperability much like all the various distributed object/rpc protocols (DCOM, IIOP etc). However the claim is that this time it will work because messages are plain text and that you use HTTP which is generally not firewalled off.

Re: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Sam Ruby
Jon Stevens wrote: Can someone explain to me what the heck web services are so that I can decide whether or not this is even worthwhile to learn about? http://sdc.sun.com/briefings/agenda.cgi?eventkey=5100 I'm guessing it is fancy marketing foo about SOAP/XML-RPC or it is about how to

Re: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jon Stevens writes: Can someone explain to me what the heck web services are so that I can decide whether or not this is even worthwhile to learn about? Right now it's mostly vapor, at least on the Sun ONE end of things. Too many of the Java APIs related to Web

Re: on Web Services (was: the Sun HQ Briefing thing...)

2001-08-08 Thread David Young
http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2001/08/07/webservices.html Hi Jon, Try the above. I go to the O'Reilly site for short, decently technical articles on new topics. This one is pretty good. My issue with Web Services? Why did they have to pick such a generic label? I remember when Service

Re: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Klaus Sonnenleiter
I guess you could say it's components with a networking twist. I don't know if it's the next big thing, but it appears to be yet another piece of the buzzword puzzle to be aware of ;-) At 08:23 AM 8/8/2001 -0700, you wrote: Can someone explain to me what the heck web services are so that I can

Re: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Berin Loritsch
Sam Ruby wrote: Jon Stevens wrote: Can someone explain to me what the heck web services are so that I can decide whether or not this is even worthwhile to learn about? http://sdc.sun.com/briefings/agenda.cgi?eventkey=5100 I'm guessing it is fancy marketing foo about SOAP/XML-RPC

Re: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Sam Ruby
Peter Donald wrote: It is basically yet another attempt to bring around interoperability much like all the various distributed object/rpc protocols (DCOM, IIOP etc). However the claim is that this time it will work because messages are plain text and that you use HTTP which is generally not

Re: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/8/01 9:59 AM, Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the stuff I've read about for WebServices comprise UDDI, SOAP, and WSDL. The three combined provide a way to automatically discover remote resources that my webapp can use and then actually use it. I'm surprised no one has

Re: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Sam Ruby
Berin Loritsch wrote: WebServices == SOAP is a good first order approximation. All the stuff I've read about for WebServices comprise UDDI, SOAP, and WSDL. The three combined provide a way to automatically discover remote resources that my webapp can use and then actually use it. That

RE: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Nael Mohammad
And for more info on WEB Services, visit: http://www.wsj2.com/ and http://www.sys-con.com/webservices/ and even IBM has a very informative site on this issue: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/ Nael Mohammad Neomar, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415-403-7300 x314 (Work) 415-793-0609

Re: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Sam Ruby
Jon Stevens wrote: I'm surprised no one has mentioned JXTA. Where does that fall into this web services picture? JXTA is P2P. WebServices tend to be client/server. Some would argue that if Web Services are the next big thing that P2P is the NEXT next big thing. - Sam Ruby

Re: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Berin Loritsch
Jon Stevens wrote: on 8/8/01 9:59 AM, Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the stuff I've read about for WebServices comprise UDDI, SOAP, and WSDL. The three combined provide a way to automatically discover remote resources that my webapp can use and then actually use it.

Re: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Berin Loritsch
Umar Syyid wrote: Hi Berin, Berin Loritsch wrote: The compelling example that was given in WSDJ was a very simple web service to find out how much any book from Borders would cost in any currency. The cool part of SOAP and therefore WS is the support for transactions. You can