Re: Nominations, +1s, ...

2002-02-12 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik



On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Santiago Gala wrote:

 I'm ready to give +1 to people nominated which are missing them, but I
 could not find any posting telling if +1 are required, or are just to be
 considered a form of moral support.

 Could anybody clarify?

Personally: I do not care much for seconding - just that the person
accepts - simple voting is the true test in my personal opinion. And in a
crowd as vocal as this I trust that issues are raised in time to make sure
that seconding is non essential filtering mechanism.

But that is a personal opinion - not the nessesarily shared by the voting
volunteers opinion of that of the board or pmc.

So for next time 2003 - you have some options.

1-  No seconding needed - just acceptance.
2-  One seconding needed - and acceptance counts
as such too.
3-  More than one needed.
4-  None needed - except to override a veto..
5.  


Dw.


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Jakarta PMC 2002: List of eligible voters.

2002-02-12 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik

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Please find attached the list of voters eligible to vote in the 2002
Jakarta PMC. Voters will receive the ballot by private mail - a copy of
the ballot will be Cc-ed to general@ and jvote@.

Committers: make sure you enter your apache user id to the second section
of the ballot form - it makes our lives so much easier.

Thanks !

Dw.

Schedule Jakarta PMC 2002:

x   0:00 GMT  - 2002-2-7Nominations close

x   0:00 GMT  - 2002-2-9Publication of candidate list.
x   Publication of voter's list.

x   0:00 GMT  - 2002-2-12   Candidate list final and announced.
Voter's list final and announced.
Voters receive their ballots.
Ballot opens

0:00 GMT  - 2002-2-19   Ballot closes

0:00 GMT  - 2002-2-21   Voters receive confirmation of their vote

0:00 GMT  - 2002-2-22   Final tally made and published.
0:00 GMT  - 2002-2-22   Archive handed over to the ASF
board secretariat.

Abey M. Mullassery  abey
Andrew C. Oliveracoliver
Adam Murdochadammurdoch
Andreas V. Kempfakempf
Anil Vijendran  akv
Alex Chafee alex
Amy Roh amyroh
Anders Kristensen   anders
Andy Armstrong  andya
Andy Riedel ariedel
Arieh Markelarieh
Arnout Kuiper   arnout
Arron Bates arron
Arun Jamwal arun
Arundhati Bhowmick  aruna1
asmuts  asmuts
Juozas Baliuka  baliuka
Henri Yandell   bayard
Brendan Burns   bburns
B. C. Holmesbcholmes
Hans Bergsten   bergsten
Bill Barker billbarker
Bip Thelin  bip
Berin Loritsch  bloritsch
Stefan Bodewig  bodewig
Bojan Smojver   bojan
Jeff Brekke brekke
Brian Goetz briangoetz
Kevin Burtonburton
carlson carlson
Rich Catlettcatlett
Christopher Cainccain
Cedric Dumoulin cedric
Ceki Gulcu  ceki
Charles Benett  charlesb
Christopher Elkins  chrise
Christoph Wilhelms  chrisw
Carl Ludwig cl
Cory Hubert clhubert
Casey Lucas clucas
Christopher Lenzcmlenz
Eung-ju Parkcolus
Conor MacNeill  conor
Costin Manolachecostin
Craig R. McClanahan craigmcc
Cameron Riley   criley
Chris Taylorcstaylor
Doug Cuttingcutting
Carsten Ziegelercziegeler
Dan Milsteindanmil
Danny Angus danny
Danny Cowarddannyc
Darrell DeBoer  darrell
DaveB   daveb
Dave Kordavekor
Dave Bryson dbryson
Daniel F. Savarese  dfs
David Geary dgeary
Dion Gillarddion
Dirk Verbeeck   dirkv
Dave Polito djpolito
Donald Leslie   dleslie
Daniel Rall dlr
Dan Mandell dmandell
Dmitri Plotnikovdmitri
Dmitry Serebrennikovdmitrys
Eric Dobbs  dobbs
Peter Donalddonaldp
Eugene Gluzberg drag0n2
Doug Sale   dsale
Doug Davis  dug
James Duncan Davidson   duncan
David Weinrich  dweinr1
David Winterfeldt   dwinterfeldt
Ed Korthof  ed
Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart eduardop
Erik Hatcherehatcher
Eric Rescorla   ekr
Enver Haase enver
Federico Barbieri   fede
Fedor Karpelevitch  fedor
Gerhard Froehlich   froehlich
Vasile Gaburici gaburici
Geir Magnusson Jr.  geirm
Michael McCallumgholam
Giacomo Patigiacomo
Glenn Nielsen   glenn
Glenn McAllisterglennm
Glen Stampoultzis   glens
Gonzalo D Guallar   gonzalo
James Todd  gonzo
gerhard.schwarz gschwarz
Paul Hammanthammant
Harish Prabandham   harishp
Harmeet Bedihbedi
Henning Schmiedehausen  henning
GOMEZ Henri hgomez
Bernie Hoeneisenhoeneisen
Diane Holt  holtdl
Justyna Horwat  horwat
Ted Husted  husted
Ilkka Priha ilkka
ingoingo
jariw   jariw
Jazmin Jonson   jazmin
Jim Boutcherjboutcher
John Casturajcastura
Jeff Turner jefft
Sung-Gu Parkjericho
jean-frederic clere jfclere
Jason Hunterjhunter
Petr Jirickajiricka
Jean-Luc Rochat jluc
Jeff Martin jmartin
John McNallyjmcnally
Jim Moore   jmoore
Jon Stevens jon
Jonathan Locke  jonl
James Strachan  jstrachan
Juergen Pilljuergen
Jason van Zyl   jvanzyl
Keith Wannamakerkeith
Kevin Hammond   khammond
Kief Morris kief
Chris 

Jakarta 2002 PMC: Committers - please vote.

2002-02-12 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik

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Committers,

Your votes please. Below you'll find 10 fine people running for the seven
seats on the Jakarta PMC - you have seven votes.

Place 7 'y's between the brackets to vote; and return this message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] before the 19th of February 0.00 GMT. Make sure you
fill out your apache user id in the second section of the form.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

1.[ ]   Stefan Bodewig
2.[ ]   Craig McClanahan
3.[ ]   Paulo Gaspar
4.[ ]   Morgan Delagrange
5.[ ]   Diane Holt
6.[ ]   Geir Magnusson Jr.
7.[ ]   Costin Manolache
8.[ ]   Conor MacNeill
9.[ ]   Sam Ruby
   10.[ ]   Scott Sanders

0.[ ] [ ] [ ]
  [ ] [ ] [ ]
  [ ]   Abstain

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

   id.[ userid ] @apache.org

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Again: Your vote has to be send to

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  BEFORE  2002-2-19 0:00 GMT

After validation of your vote; we will removed your identity from the
message prior to counting.

At the end of this message you will find a short statement made by the
nominee about his or her envisaged role on the PMC.

You have 7 votes. Nothing more; nothing less. Any votes not used
automatically counts as abstained.

If you use more than 7 votes - or when it is unclear whom you meant to
vote for - then your votes are not counted in any way. Up to one vote per
nominee (i.e. you cannot put all your 7 votes on one(1) person).

If you are paranoid and want to use PGP or GPG - then each of the three
members of the committee needs to be able to decode and verify your message:

Dirk-Willem van Gulik (0xEC140B81)
Jim Jagielski (0xA0BB71C1)
Ben Laurie (0x2719AF35)

The election committee will verify each vote received by email to your
@apache.org address. We will then tally the results and publish the names
of the seven people with the largest number of votes and publish the
number of valid ballots received to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yours,

Dirk-Willem van Gulik

Schedule Jakarta PMC 2002:

x   0:00 GMT  - 2002-2-7Nominations close

x   0:00 GMT  - 2002-2-9Publication of candidate list.
x   Publication of voters list.

x   0:00 GMT  - 2002-2-12   Candidate list final and announced.
Voters list final and announced.
Voters receive their ballots.
Ballot opens

0:00 GMT  - 2002-2-19   Ballot closes

0:00 GMT  - 2002-2-21   Voters receive confirmation of their vote

0:00 GMT  - 2002-2-22   Final tally made and published.
0:00 GMT  - 2002-2-22   Archive handed over to the ASF
board secretariat.

Nominations:

Nominated and accepted by the nominee:
Stefan Bodewig
Craig McClanahan
Paulo Gaspar
Diane Holt
Morgan Delagrange
Geir Magnusson Jr.
Costin Manolache
Conor MacNeill
Sam Ruby
Scott Sanders

Nominated - but not accepted by the nominee:
-

Nominated - but declined by the nominee:
Jason van Zyl
Ted Husted
Jon Stevens
Ceki Gulci
Donald Peter

Blurp for those nominees who accepted:

Stefan Bodewig (accepted)

I am a committer for the Ant project since June 2000 and have been the
release manager of Ant's very first release.  Since October 2000 I am a
member of the Apache Software Foundation.  At work I use many of the other
Jakarta projects, but I'm mostly a lurker with an occasional bug fix.
I'm am interim GUMP run junkie and try to fix changes in Ant that break
other build processes before these other projects even realize the
problem.

Craig McClanahan (accepted)

You can find out more about me on the Struts Who We Are page:

  http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/userGuide/volunteers.html

At Apache, I got involved in the Apache JServ project before there was a
Jakarta (along with other long timers like Jon, Pier, and Stefano), and at
the ApacheCon just after the Tomcat source code was finally handed over to
Apache, told James Duncan Davidson in front of several hundred people that
the Sun code sucked ;-). (Want proof?  Just go back to the sources for
Tomcat 3.0, but don't do this on a full stomach ;-).

Over the last couple of years, I've been a big-time contributor on Tomcat
(Catalina's architecture is basically what Apache JServ 2.0 was going to
be), Struts (I'm the primary architect), and Commons.  Along the way, I've
been somewhat less involved with Taglibs and Watchdog.  I'm also a pretty
good chunk of Apache's user support on the TOMCAT-USER list.

I believe in Apache's goals w.r.t. open sourcing Java.  I don't have a lot
of patience for diatribes and mailing list flame fests -- they tend to be

jakarta-site2 karma please

2002-02-12 Thread Morgan Delagrange

Could someone grant me karma to jakarta-site2?

I'd like to post a copy of the versioning guidelines from Taglibs
(http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-taglibs/HOWTO-RELEASE?rev=1.8content
-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup) and Commons
(http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-commons/xdocs/versioning.xml?rev=1.1;
content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup) to the site, so that they can be
shared by those projects and any others that wish it.

- Morgan


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Re: jakarta-site2 karma please

2002-02-12 Thread Sam Ruby

Done

- Sam Ruby


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RE: Nominations, +1s, ...

2002-02-12 Thread Scott Sanders

Number 4.  As little process as possible.

Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:22 AM
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Re: Nominations, +1s, ...
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Santiago Gala wrote:
 
  I'm ready to give +1 to people nominated which are missing 
 them, but I 
  could not find any posting telling if +1 are required, or 
 are just to 
  be considered a form of moral support.
 
  Could anybody clarify?
 
 Personally: I do not care much for seconding - just that the 
 person accepts - simple voting is the true test in my 
 personal opinion. And in a crowd as vocal as this I trust 
 that issues are raised in time to make sure that seconding is 
 non essential filtering mechanism.
 
 But that is a personal opinion - not the nessesarily shared 
 by the voting volunteers opinion of that of the board or pmc.
 
 So for next time 2003 - you have some options.
 
 1-No seconding needed - just acceptance.
 2-One seconding needed - and acceptance counts
   as such too.
 3-More than one needed.
 4-None needed - except to override a veto..
 5.
 
 
 Dw.
 
 
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Re: Nominations, +1s, ...

2002-02-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

On 2/12/02 4:45 PM, Scott Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Number 4.  As little process as possible.

Disagree - I think requiring acceptance by the candidate is better, as then
we can't 'force' someone onto the PMC when they aren't looking :)


 
 Scott
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:22 AM

[SNIP]

 
 So for next time 2003 - you have some options.
 
 1-No seconding needed - just acceptance.
 2-One seconding needed - and acceptance counts
 as such too.
 3-More than one needed.
 4-None needed - except to override a veto..
 5.
 

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RE: Nominations, +1s, ...

2002-02-12 Thread Scott Sanders

#4 plus acceptance then?  I would have assumed that acceptance is
implied, but that is just me ;-)

Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:02 PM
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Re: Nominations, +1s, ...
 
 
 On 2/12/02 4:45 PM, Scott Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Number 4.  As little process as possible.
 
 Disagree - I think requiring acceptance by the candidate is 
 better, as then we can't 'force' someone onto the PMC when 
 they aren't looking :)
 
 
  
  Scott
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:22 AM
 
 [SNIP]
 
  
  So for next time 2003 - you have some options.
  
  1-No seconding needed - just acceptance.
  2-One seconding needed - and acceptance counts
  as such too.
  3-More than one needed.
  4-None needed - except to override a veto..
  5.
  
 
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Re: Nominations, +1s, ...

2002-02-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

On 2/12/02 5:02 PM, Scott Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 #4 plus acceptance then?  I would have assumed that acceptance is
 implied, but that is just me ;-)
 

Oh - I didn't, because it was called out specifically in #1 and #2...

Yep.

 Scott
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:02 PM
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Re: Nominations, +1s, ...
 
 
 On 2/12/02 4:45 PM, Scott Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Number 4.  As little process as possible.
 
 Disagree - I think requiring acceptance by the candidate is
 better, as then we can't 'force' someone onto the PMC when
 they aren't looking :)
 
 
 
 Scott
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:22 AM
 
 [SNIP]
 
 
 So for next time 2003 - you have some options.
 
 1-No seconding needed - just acceptance.
 2-One seconding needed - and acceptance counts
 as such too.
 3-More than one needed.
 4-None needed - except to override a veto..
 5.
 
 
 -- 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 System and Software Consulting
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Re: Nominations, +1s, ...

2002-02-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

On 2/12/02 5:34 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The more I read this discussion, the more I realize that I showed great
 wisdom in drafting the rules so that the person or persons appointed by the
 board will have complete freedom in determining the appropriate mechanism.
 
 We seem to be a nation composed of people who obsess over things like the
 meaning of hanging chads.  ;-)
 
 Whatever the outcome of this election, we will have 7 people who are
 recognized by their peers and are willing to do the job.
 

So does that mean you don't think Dirk-Willem's question should be resolved?

This issue seemed to cause a bit of confusion this time round.  If I recall,
we both had to be reminded to accept...

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