Re: [off topic] Zaurus PDA at java one

2002-03-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 3/26/02 6:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did anyone attending java one play with one ? Any good ? I am tempted to get one - but am held back by an experience with them a year ago or so when it barely worked - and would barf as soon as you did something serious on

Re: RegExp project still maintained?

2002-03-27 Thread Gunther Schadow
Mathieu Gervais wrote: I'm not sure if this is the place to ask for this, but I've noticed the regexp project seems to not be maintained anymore. [...] Is it recomended to switch to ORO? [...] I think if this project is going without any active maintainer it should be noted on the

Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

2002-03-27 Thread @Basebeans.com
Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering From: Vic Cekvenich [EMAIL PROTECTED] === I enjoyed meeting everyone, it was great fun. Thanks. Vic Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 3/25/02 10:40 AM, Jakarta General Newsgroup (@Basebeans.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The

Re: Keynote announcement

2002-03-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 3/26/02 6:09 PM, Marc Saegesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was at the Keynote and I must that I was really impressed both with the work you guys did behind the scenes to make this happend and with your presentation on the stage. You certainly didn't look nervice! I was there too, and

Re: [off topic] Zaurus PDA at java one

2002-03-27 Thread dirkx
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 3/26/02 6:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did anyone attending java one play with one ? Any good ? I am tempted to get one - but am held back by an experience with them a year ago or so when it barely worked - and

RE: Comments on the commons-logging API

2002-03-27 Thread Waldhoff, Rodney
I'm quoting Ceki's entire message here because I think he raises a number of interesting and valid points. But I think this misinterprets what (in my mind) is the main point of commons-logging. One can use commons-logging, as you state, as a implementation-independent logging wrapper in hopes

Re: Comments on the commons-logging API

2002-03-27 Thread costinm
Ceki, I'm not sure I understand very well this. I think we have a consensus on few items ( and you seem to just repeat them ): - JDK1.4 logging is not useable as a 'standard logging API' ( even if it is released under JCP ) - log4j is the best logger ( for Peter and few others: logkit is

Request information for setting up a new CVS top level repository

2002-03-27 Thread Peter Carlson
Hi, I am trying to find out what the policy or guidelines are for setting up a new top level CVS repository. I am a committer to the Jakarta-Lucene project and would like to setup Jakarta-Lucene-Sandbox repository. Who is the correct person to make this request to? Thanks --Peter -- To

FW: Misspelling

2002-03-27 Thread Pier Fumagalli
-- Forwarded Message From: Kennedy, Scott, MDCT Trenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:21:26 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Misspelling http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#0327.1 release is misspelled as relase Regards, Scott -- End of Forwarded Message

jakarta-site2 stylesheet makeover (was: RE: Printable pages)

2002-03-27 Thread Leo Simons
Taking the release early, release often advice to heart, I've applied changes mentioned to the page at the url I posted earlier and started work on the site.vsl file in jakarta-site2 (which basically means cutting out a whole lot of stuff). I've got no real previous experience with either the

RE: Misspelling

2002-03-27 Thread Larry Isaacs
Fixed. Larry -Original Message- From: Pier Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:56 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: FW: Misspelling -- Forwarded Message From: Kennedy, Scott, MDCT Trenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002

RE: Comments on the commons-logging API

2002-03-27 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 11:49 27.03.2002 -0600, Rodney Waldhoff wrote: But this isn't really the reason commons-logging was created. Note that most of the commons components are just that--tiny libraries meant to be integrated/incorporated into larger frameworks and larger applications. Some of these components

Re: Comments on the commons-logging API

2002-03-27 Thread Morgan Delagrange
- Original Message - From: Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:43 PM Subject: RE: Comments on the commons-logging API At 11:49 27.03.2002 -0600, Rodney Waldhoff wrote: But this isn't really the reason

RE: Comments on the commons-logging API

2002-03-27 Thread costinm
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Ceki Gülcü wrote: If your library chooses to use logging API XYZ, this does not impose XYZ to the clients of your library. Your clients can use the logging library they prefer (if they are using logging API) and your library can use XYZ. And the user will have to

subproject layout conventions

2002-03-27 Thread Leo Simons
It has been brought up by many people that there is no common way of organising subproject websites. I propose we draft a set of guidelines (_not_ rules) on a general structure. Lets start with some discussion :) --- Navigation /

Re: Comments on the commons-logging API

2002-03-27 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 15:18 27.03.2002 -0600, Morgan Delagrange wrote: Here's the problem, as I see it. Suppose Commons component A decides to adopt Log4J, Commons component B decides to adopt LogKit, and Commons component C adopts JDK1.4 logging. They will all minimally function with the right jars in the

Re: Comments on the commons-logging API

2002-03-27 Thread costinm
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Ceki Gülcü wrote: At 10:15 27.03.2002 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The goal is not to be able to change the logger at compile time, but to be able to detect the platform logger and use it. The only way to do that is via a standard API - and commons-logging seems to be

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-27 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 17:13, Leo Simons wrote: It has been brought up by many people that there is no common way of organising subproject websites. I propose we draft a set of guidelines (_not_ rules) on a general structure. http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/maven/ There's a sample

RE: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-27 Thread Steven Noels
Leo Simons wrote: It has been brought up by many people that there is no common way of organising subproject websites. I propose we draft a set of guidelines (_not_ rules) on a general structure. Lets start with some discussion :) All this and more is being tackled (slowly but steadily)

Re: Comments on the commons-logging API

2002-03-27 Thread costinm
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Ceki Gülcü wrote: So, if I understand correctly the reason for adopting commons-logging API is for convenience rather than non-intrusiveness as a library (with respect to logging). The goals of commons-logging ( as I understand them ): - non-intrusiveness - convenience -

Re: Comments on the commons-logging API

2002-03-27 Thread Morgan Delagrange
- Original Message - From: Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Comments on the commons-logging API At 15:18 27.03.2002 -0600, Morgan Delagrange wrote: Here's the problem, as I see it. Suppose

Re: Comments on the commons-logging API

2002-03-27 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Costin, Morgan, Rodney, Thanks for the lively discussion and sharing your points of view. My intent was to warn users of the dangers of using common-logging. I have done my bit. Cheers, Ceki At 16:31 27.03.2002 -0600, Morgan wrote: I believe the order of precedence is well documented. I think

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-27 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 3/27/02 2:26 PM, Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All this and more is being tackled (slowly but steadily) in Forrest - and having some Jakarta people involved for cross-pollination would be good. There's not much yet except for the foundation and build environment and some static

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-27 Thread Jeff Turner
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:23:35PM -0800, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 3/27/02 2:26 PM, Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All this and more is being tackled (slowly but steadily) in Forrest - and having some Jakarta people involved for cross-pollination would be good. There's not

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-27 Thread dion
Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/03/2002 08:15:53 AM: On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 17:13, Leo Simons wrote: It has been brought up by many people that there is no common way of organising subproject websites. I propose we draft a set of guidelines (_not_ rules) on a general

BCEL?

2002-03-27 Thread Scott Vachalek
Hello, I have a BCEL bug to report but there doesn't seem to be a category for it in the bug database. Should it go somewhere else or can you create a category? Thanks, Scott

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-27 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
From: Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leo Simons wrote: It has been brought up by many people that there is no common way of organising subproject websites. I propose we draft a set of guidelines (_not_ rules) on a general structure. Lets start with some discussion :) All this and