Do you want a list of other funny "channels"?
=;o)

Have fun,
Paulo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Schnitzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 11:19 PM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: RE: You guys are so funny. 
> 
> 
> Sorry, didn't intend to "throw" the whole mail at you.
> 
> I haven't been around as long as you (probably a little over a year),
> but this is one of my favorite lists.  It's far more entertaining than
> television :-)
> 
> Jeff Schnitzer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 10:00 AM
> > To: Jakarta General List
> > Subject: RE: You guys are so funny.
> > 
> > Hey Jeff,
> > 
> > 
> > I can agree with all you say but I don't understand why you throw
> > this on my direction.
> > 
> > I have been defending the existence of competing projects since the
> > Tomcat 3.3 versus Tomcat 4 wars until my most recent posts at the
> > commons-dev list.
> > 
> > Maybe you do not follow the same lists I do. Maybe not for long
> > enough.
> > 
> > If you read Jon's postings along this thread, you will also be
> > better informed about whom has a thin skin problem.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Have fun,
> > Paulo Gaspar
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jeff Schnitzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 11:59 AM
> > > To: Jakarta General List
> > > Subject: RE: You guys are so funny.
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >
> > > > Of course that from the way Jon talks about me you can tell that
> > > > I do not always agree with him - Jon seems to only be friendly
> > > > to those that agree with him.
> > >
> > > For the record, I've even committed the cardinal sin of creating a
> MVC
> > > webapp framework which is not Turbine (http://mav.sourceforge.net),
> and
> > > Jon is still pretty friendly to me :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > You guys all need to lighten up.  It's not like this is a workplace
> > > where everyone is competing for promotions or something.  How this
> > > social game plays out isn't going to affect your paycheck or the
> people
> > > who hang out with you or whether or not you're going to get laid
> this
> > > weekend.
> > >
> > > A fair amount of banter is healthy in any community.  Poking fun at
> each
> > > other, lighthearted insults, competition, and yes conflict are a
> > > standard part of any sitcom production.  Sure, there's a time for
> "we
> > > all love each other" mushy-type stuff but if it was like that all
> the
> > > time it would get boring really damn fast.  It is my observation
> that
> > > Apache works because of thick skins, not because of peace, love, and
> > > happiness vibes.
> > >
> > > There's nothing wrong with a limited number of competing projects
> under
> > > one roof.  It's probably even a good idea.  It's not like Maven and
> > > Centipede are competing implementations of the same API - this is
> pretty
> > > much a research field, and it's impossible to categorically predict
> at
> > > this point whether it is better to extend or generate the Gump
> > > descriptors, or to use XSLT or DVSL, etc.  Until the science becomes
> > > engineering, this mad driving need (among some) to "merge merge
> merge"
> > > is a pathology.
> > >
> > > Let it be.  Use the software you like.  Write the software you like.
> > > Berate people over the truly important things, like choice of text
> > > editor :-)
> > >
> > > Jeff Schnitzer
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > ed is the *standard* text editor
> > 
> > 
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