RE: Maven is growing
Is it not ok to post strong language on this list? Are there kids around? Un saludo, Alex Fernández. -Mensaje original- De: Sale, Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: viernes 3 de mayo de 2002 21:13 Para: 'Jakarta General List' Asunto: RE: Maven is growing agreed. the swearing (http://www.mail-archive.com/general@jakarta.apache.org/msg051 30.html), self-congratulating web page (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html), and general attitude is disheartening. most of us don't need others to step in and defend our 'nice-guy' status. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 1:18 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Maven is growing On Fri, 3 May 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: well, just yesterday we had: [daedalus] 10:56am ~ grep -c /maven/ 02 7546 Looks like the *entire* life of your project has been around 9500... OhhA My english vocabulary is too limited to express what I feel reading this... Maybe ashamed to be in the same 'community' with this kind of person. Costin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Maven is growing
There used to be, at least, back when I was 17... grz, - Leo On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 13:05, Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro wrote: Is it not ok to post strong language on this list? Are there kids around? Un saludo, Alex Fernández. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...
Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sure someone else will manage it but some of the lists have zero entries, e.g. turbine-maven-dev I know, old problem. I'm regenerating the mbox indices now (which is going to make nagoya very slow for a bit, btw). Dan, write down how it's done, so I can do some CRON magic nagoya.apache.org:~dlr/ap-eyebrowse/bin/populate_db.sh The existing command line interface is less than desirable. However, I didn't want to touch it until releasing a 1.1 final. I'll give EB on nagoya a few more days, then do just that. Send any suggestions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll look into implementing them after branching. - Dan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: You guys are so funny.
Let it be. Use the software you like. Write the software you like. Berate people over the truly important things, like choice of text editor :-) Hear hear! (But go emacs! ;-) B... vi rules! -Andy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...
Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: petite_abeille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 08:34 PM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: Thank to Daniel Rall, we finally have an in-house mail archive for JAKARTA.APACHE.ORG, with all our history so far. The baby is running on Tigris' EyeBrowse and can be accessed here: http://nagoya.apache.org/ Great... but is it ready for prime time? Oh, BTW, it was up for the past 4 months, didn't have the slightest problem, until Dan decided to upgrade to the last more stable version, right when I announced it :) :) :) I'm sure it's a nit, and will be fixed in 2 days Hehe, that's exactly it. A comical coincidence... :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...
I hadn't been able to reach the one at 8080 from off the machine since Pier installed the mod_proxy ProxyPass magic for httpd (other than by telnetting from the box and submitting the HTTP request by hand). Personally, I much prefer not having to provide the port number (go Pier!). - Dan Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is the same installation, we just switched ports and maybe daniel is reindexing stuff around... Daniel Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happened to the one at http://nagoya.apache.org:8080/eyebrowse/ViewLists It had all the lists archived instead of the few that are showing up now? Thank to Daniel Rall, we finally have an in-house mail archive for JAKARTA.APACHE.ORG, with all our history so far. The baby is running on Tigris' EyeBrowse and can be accessed here: http://nagoya.apache.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: You guys are so funny.
Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Of course that from the way Jon talks about me you can tell that I do not always agree with him - Jon seems to only be friendly to those that agree with him. For the record, I've even committed the cardinal sin of creating a MVC webapp framework which is not Turbine (http://mav.sourceforge.net), and Jon is still pretty friendly to me :-) You guys all need to lighten up. It's not like this is a workplace where everyone is competing for promotions or something. How this social game plays out isn't going to affect your paycheck or the people who hang out with you or whether or not you're going to get laid this weekend. A fair amount of banter is healthy in any community. Poking fun at each other, lighthearted insults, competition, and yes conflict are a standard part of any sitcom production. Sure, there's a time for we all love each other mushy-type stuff but if it was like that all the time it would get boring really damn fast. It is my observation that Apache works because of thick skins, not because of peace, love, and happiness vibes. There's nothing wrong with a limited number of competing projects under one roof. It's probably even a good idea. It's not like Maven and Centipede are competing implementations of the same API - this is pretty much a research field, and it's impossible to categorically predict at this point whether it is better to extend or generate the Gump descriptors, or to use XSLT or DVSL, etc. Until the science becomes engineering, this mad driving need (among some) to merge merge merge is a pathology. Let it be. Use the software you like. Write the software you like. Berate people over the truly important things, like choice of text editor :-) Hear hear! (But go emacs! ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: You guys are so funny.
Hear hear! (But go emacs! ;-) B... vi rules! Ed is the standard text editor. http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html :-) Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, I was reading alt.slack in '91 :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?
Martin Poeschl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i just sent a proposal to the torque list to move to db ...which has been approved by the developers. - Dan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?
I don't have a problem with db, but if that is associated too strongly with relational databases, how about datamanagement or dm? Another option would be just data. Jim Seach --- Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was thinking that a better name might be 'dataaccess' or something to reflect the fact that the scope isn't just about formal db's. Not sure. We can keep it as 'db' as a working name for now, I suppose. The only other thing that I could come up with was persistence (which probably isn't as good as db...not general enough). I don't like dataaccess because (other than being ugly) it could be construed to preclude data _storage_ (a type of project which db.apache.org might eventually host). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?
How about tweaking db enough so that it both pronounces better and has less explicit meaning? I like: dub.apache.org Let someone else figure out acronym meaning later :-) Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] How many millions of dollars did Andersen spend for the name Accenture? Sounds like some sort of meat seasoning. No MSG! -Original Message- From: Jim Seach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:42 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ? I don't have a problem with db, but if that is associated too strongly with relational databases, how about datamanagement or dm? Another option would be just data. Jim Seach -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?
If I were going to Apache to look for database stuff be it a database (object oriented or not) and/or stuff to work with it...I'd be prone to look at db.apache.org. Then again... Jakarta == Java?? ;-) -Andy On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 18:44, Peter Donald wrote: On Tue, 7 May 2002 08:34, Daniel Rall wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was thinking that a better name might be 'dataaccess' or something to reflect the fact that the scope isn't just about formal db's. Not sure. We can keep it as 'db' as a working name for now, I suppose. The only other thing that I could come up with was persistence (which probably isn't as good as db...not general enough). I disagree - I think persistence or more likely persist.apache.org is general enough. Not sure if it is a snappy enough name though ;) -- Cheers, Peter Donald -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?
sounds like a frog or the nickname of a president... ;-) go all the way... dubya.apache.org ;-) :-p -andy On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 18:52, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: How about tweaking db enough so that it both pronounces better and has less explicit meaning? I like: dub.apache.org Let someone else figure out acronym meaning later :-) Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] How many millions of dollars did Andersen spend for the name Accenture? Sounds like some sort of meat seasoning. No MSG! -Original Message- From: Jim Seach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:42 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ? I don't have a problem with db, but if that is associated too strongly with relational databases, how about datamanagement or dm? Another option would be just data. Jim Seach -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: You guys are so funny.
Jeff Schnitzer wrote: Hear hear! (But go emacs! ;-) B... vi rules! Ed is the standard text editor. When I went to Uni. vi was considered too resource intensive - you had to use ed. ed rocks (well not really) Conor -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...
Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hadn't been able to reach the one at 8080 from off the machine since Pier installed the mod_proxy ProxyPass magic for httpd (other than by telnetting from the box and submitting the HTTP request by hand). Personally, I much prefer not having to provide the port number (go Pier!). Security hole... 8080 is bound only to 127.0.0.1... Now we control who gets into Tomcat, and the HTTP stack on Apache is _much_more_solid_... Pier -- I think that it's extremely foolish to name a server after the current U.S. President. B.W. Fitzpatrick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...
Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hadn't been able to reach the one at 8080 from off the machine since Pier installed the mod_proxy ProxyPass magic for httpd (other than by telnetting from the box and submitting the HTTP request by hand). Personally, I much prefer not having to provide the port number (go Pier!). Security hole... 8080 is bound only to 127.0.0.1... Now we control who gets into Tomcat, and the HTTP stack on Apache is _much_more_solid_... Sorry, this might sound harsh... There's no known security hole in TC's HTTP connector, it's just security consciousness Or whatever, I dunno, you pick :) Pier -- I think that it's extremely foolish to name a server after the current U.S. President. B.W. Fitzpatrick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...
Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hadn't been able to reach the one at 8080 from off the machine since Pier installed the mod_proxy ProxyPass magic for httpd (other than by telnetting from the box and submitting the HTTP request by hand). Personally, I much prefer not having to provide the port number (go Pier!). Security hole... 8080 is bound only to 127.0.0.1... Now we control who gets into Tomcat, and the HTTP stack on Apache is _much_more_solid_... Sorry, this might sound harsh... There's no known security hole in TC's HTTP connector, it's just security consciousness Or whatever, I dunno, you pick :) Even so, +1. If it doesn't _need_ to be open to the Internet at large, why open it? Apache httpd needs to be, but Catalina does not. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
