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2002-05-26 Thread Vladimir Maslov
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Re: FW: Howdy... just FYI, the bcel-dev archive mailing list link is broken...

2002-05-26 Thread Peter Donald
On Sun, 26 May 2002 03:58, Pier Fumagalli wrote: [Perl] combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion of different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. [Jamie Zawinski - DNA Lounge - San Francisco] I like ! --

Re: welcoming and nurturing volunteers

2002-05-26 Thread Peter Donald
On Sun, 26 May 2002 00:07, Sam Ruby wrote: Ceki Gülcü wrote: The motivational power of appreciation cannot be underestimated. The author is correct in emphasizing the point. What is not emphasized enough is the need for direction. What's the use of having a million volunteers if they all

Re: Criteria for commit access

2002-05-26 Thread Peter Donald
On Sat, 25 May 2002 07:37, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 5/24/02 5:28 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Costin Manolache wrote: If one quarter of the new commiters make 1/2 the contributions that people like Sam Ruby did - I'm quite happy. As Mark Twain once said The rumors of

RE: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-26 Thread Danny Angus
+0 I like this, I think it is needed, as it should help to extend the experience and knowledge of the community by acknowledging the services of non-coders. I believe, though, that as sub-projects grow we will eventually need to address the issue of scope, but in the meantime this would be an

subverting CVS WAS: Re: Divorcing karma from CVS access? (Re:Vicious Abuse?)

2002-05-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
So is there an interest in one day migrating to subversion? I don't think its *ready* yet but I've always wanted to try it. I never have, because I thought well I'd like to try a lot of things but as long as I won't be able to use it most places whats the point. A tentative yes here might give

RE: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
But Pier, it doesn't address your original problem though, does it? Which was about the bar height, or how to encourage contributors, and increase the number of contributors without diluting, and clogging up, the community and decision making processes. Total and complete agreement. Well

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-26 Thread Ted Husted
Those who do the work of creating a Jakarta product are entitled to make the decisions regarding that product. A successful product is more than code, it also requires documentation and support and easy-to-use distributions. Whether a patch is to the code or the documentation isn't relevant.

Re: subverting CVS WAS: Re: Divorcing karma from CVS access? (Re:Vicious Abuse?)

2002-05-26 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] So is there an interest in one day migrating to subversion? I don't think its *ready* yet but I've always wanted to try it. I never have, because I thought well I'd like to try a lot of things but as long as I won't be able to use it most places

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-26 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Well said. I subscribe to this. We should remember that people that contribute so much should be proposed as committers, regardless to the code submitted, as is done AFAIK in POI, Struts, Cocoon, Forrest, Avalon, and the Krysalis projects (that refer to Apache guidelines). -- Nicola Ken Barozzi

Re: subverting CVS WAS: Re: Divorcing karma from CVS access?(Re:Vicious Abuse?)

2002-05-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
As for now, I'd be happy when I see Scarab b7+ running nudge nudge Status on that is this: 1. Monday is a holiday 2. Sometime next week I hope/plan to drive my server back to its co-located home 3. Test detonate my Scarab installing on it (appreciate here that I'm taking more care not

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-26 Thread Bill Barker
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 9:17 PM Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities... On Sun, 26 May 2002, Ignacio J. Ortega wrote: but all i can say from the history i know,