Re: Short Apache licence for source files

2002-12-07 Thread Steven Noels
Ceki Gülcü wrote:


I never expected the ASF to falter and fold. However, I do expect the
ASF to act reasonably which implies that it can explain/document its
decisions.


Feeling very patronized if I see such threads...: +1

/Steven
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Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-07 Thread mohammad nabil



The first boot from a heroin dealer is always free. 8^)

Chuck


i take care :D

also, if the community decided to make things in C# then you should give
Python, Eifel, COBOL, FORTRAN, ASSEMBLY, and any programming language
a try, and compile all programs into these languages too, heh we have
time! :s

i say this because all of them have a good reason to exist such as the
reasons C# has ;)

Best Regards all
mohammad :)

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Re: Short Apache licence for source files

2002-12-07 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 7/12/02 7:56 Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pier Fumagalli wrote:
 
 Current drafts of the 2.0 license include a solution to this
 issue, plus a whole bunch of other niceties.  Discussions of
 the new license are happening on a mailing list dedicated to
 that purpose.
 
 Where is that mailing list?
 
 
 I believe it was avaliable _only_ to ASF members...
 
 Which is kinda strange since it is the license which _committers_ also
 need to abide...

You're free to file your complaint to the appropriate department dealing
with those kinds of issues: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Pier


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Re: Short Apache licence for source files

2002-12-07 Thread Steven Noels
Pier Fumagalli wrote:


You're free to file your complaint to the appropriate department dealing
with those kinds of issues: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Naaah. There's a difference between making a remark here when the 
opportunity is there, and starting another 'feeding the trolls' thread 
over at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I now see that my remark has been duly noted, and I can only hope that 
it somehow penetrates the firewall between us and The Members.

/Steven
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We're MOVING! :-)

2002-12-07 Thread Pier Fumagalli
A big thank you to Sun Microsystems which is upgrading our bandwidth for
Nagoya from 1.5 Mbps (T1) to something _MUCH_ bigger (as far as I was told,
though)...

We (well, actually Justina and her team) will have to move nagoya off to
another colo somewhere in california next week, so there will be an outage
on the Jakarta mailing lists around the 13th when the actual relocation will
be performed...

I have already checked all email configuration to be able to have a smooth
transition... Because of how DNS work, I'll start archiving all messages on
daedauls before the downtime (effectively using another queue), and then
relaying them off once the move is done to the actual IP address (to avoid
DNS latencies and stuff)...

MAYBE (but just _MAYBE_) I'll be able to move the BugZilla installation
across on another server in London for the time being (it is the one where I
replicate the DB every night, but as of yet, no bugzilla install on it), and
do some tricks with IP addresses and HTTP forwarding, but that's not
guaranteed as of yet (it depends on how much spare time I get on my hands
next week)...

Other than that, well, stuff should run smoothly after the move, apart from
the usual DNS latencies, but I already moved TTL and EXPIRE to 1 day, will
be to 1 hour the week of the actual move)...

That's all for now... Have fun, and keep your fingers crossed... You never
know what might go wrong! :-)

Pier

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Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-07 Thread Dan Diephouse
Avalon has already ported some of their framework code to C# I believe. 
 It is in CVS.

- Dan

Bob Johnson wrote:
Thanks Andy for the links.  The Question I have for everybody here is 
does anyone have any interest in Porting any of the other jakarta 
projects to C# so that they may be able to run on Mono/Linux/windows  
.Net/Micorsoft ? I have been experimenting with Mono/MCS  Microsoft/CSC 
for a few months. I like Mono and I think it is surprisingly fast.

Andy if you need any help with a possible POIFS 
http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/poifs port I would be more than happy to 
going you if you dont mind another person who wants to learn more about 
C# working with you.

Bob -

Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

Thanks Jon.  Here's the link. 
http://www.sys-con.com/java/article.cfm?id=1714

Its an okay article.  Could be a bit more in-depth I suppose, but I 
imagine all the people
who could write that are under gag order.

And if you're really depressed...  Here's a quick how to for doing 
C#/Mono  by yours
truly:

http://www.freeroller.net/page/acoliver/20021129  *I'm home with Mono*

-Andy


Jon Scott Stevens wrote:

Great guest editorial article (no web link yet it seems) in the November
Java Developers Journal that I suggest you read.

It briefly outlines how the JCP is screwing up the way that Sun manages
Java.

-jon


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