RE: [POLL] OS of choice

2002-12-19 Thread James Mitchell
I already have an account setup, but need Karma. Can you help me with this? -Original Message- From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [POLL] OS of choice on 2002/12/17 1:15 PM, Henri

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002/12/18 9:19 PM, Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the point was that we also need people to review the commits and people to vote on the release. Thanks for volunteering. I don't know what final would mean - if bugs are found that affect projects using regexp ( like

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Sam Ruby
Various answers, in no particular order: This is a chairman's report. Typically, these appear after a time delay (once approved in a subsequent meeting) at http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html . I raised the issue about Tapestry in yesterday's board meeting. Jim Jagielski

Re: [POLL] OS of choice

2002-12-19 Thread Sam Ruby
glens and jmitchell now have karma to jakarta-site2 - Sam Ruby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 18/12/02 19:00 Doug Bateman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeing clarification: Is Sam's post here the official report from the PMC, or a summary of a PMC report posted elsewhere? Looking at the news page, I see a summary for status of each individual project in Jakarta, but no summary of

Re: FYI: Follow up on the XML'ization of MS Office 11

2002-12-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 17/12/02 18:03 Dominique Devienne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... which follows the SUN and MS bashing thread where this subject was brushed on. I'm just forwarding the news, no need to shoot/flame the messenger. Thanks, --DD From: xmlhack daily news digest: 17 Dec 2002 Microsoft Office

Re: GUI of the website, where's an overview? (not simply found)

2002-12-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 17/12/02 7:14 Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently (slowly) working on this: http://cocoon.cocoondev.org/mount/trove/ - which should, amongst others, be dependant on Gump data. Simple hint... Don't call it Trove... http://teatrove.sourceforge.net/ It's a pretty-famous

RE: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Danny Angus
This is a chairman's report. Typically, these appear after a time delay (once approved in a subsequent meeting) at http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html . thats what I thought, but I don't see any recent jakarta ones. d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL

Re: GUI of the website, where's an overview? (not simply found)

2002-12-19 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I really like Bambi :) Mvgr, Martin On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 14:34, Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 17/12/02 7:14 Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently (slowly) working on this: http://cocoon.cocoondev.org/mount/trove/ - which should, amongst others, be dependant on Gump data.

Re: FYI: Follow up on the XML'ization of MS Office 11

2002-12-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I find it rather amusing that you need Office 11 to have ACCESS to XML. After all XML has been so restricted until now ;-). Regardless, I hope (I think) Micorsoft REALLY makes Office XML compliant such that it behaves nicely in Office. Currently you can save it as a kinda XML format but its

Re: GUI of the website, where's an overview? (not simply found)

2002-12-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 19/12/02 13:49 Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trove is also Sourceforge's categorization system. I suspect that is where the name was taken from. If you'd like to publicize Tea more, why not put it on the Elsewhere news on the front page? (not being sarcastic, its an honest

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Sam Ruby
Danny Angus wrote: This is a chairman's report. Typically, these appear after a time delay (once approved in a subsequent meeting) at http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html . thats what I thought, but I don't see any recent jakarta ones. Bad, Jakarta chairman, bad. - Sam Ruby

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Costin Manolache
Jon Scott Stevens wrote: BTW - thanks for taking the time to fix the bugs in regexp, and congratulations to the jakarta-regexp team for completing the project ! :-) Thanks for being a complete idiot Costin. I meant it very seriously - I think every project should have a goal, and should

[discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-19 Thread Sam Ruby
Gump is now two years old. It has had contributions from over a dozen people, about a half-dozen this month alone. There seems to be a renewed interest in gump (some in response to a little nudging grin). Considering all of this, what I would like to propose is that the contents of

Re: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-19 Thread Costin Manolache
Sam Ruby wrote: Gump is now two years old. It has had contributions from over a dozen people, about a half-dozen this month alone. There seems to be a renewed interest in gump (some in response to a little nudging grin). Considering all of this, what I would like to propose is that the

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002/12/19 8:04 AM, Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant it very seriously - I think every project should have a goal, and should eventually reach the goal in a finite amount of time. The fact that jakarta-regexp just works and has met its goals is a very positive thing. And

Re: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-19 Thread James Taylor
On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 12:21, Sam Ruby wrote: Gump is now two years old. It has had contributions from over a dozen people, about a half-dozen this month alone. There seems to be a renewed interest in gump (some in response to a little nudging grin). Considering all of this, what I would

Re: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Thursday, December 19, 2002, at 12:21 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: Gump is now two years old. It has had contributions from over a dozen people, about a half-dozen this month alone. There seems to be a renewed interest in gump (some in response to a little nudging grin). Considering all of

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Costin Manolache
Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 2002/12/19 8:04 AM, Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant it very seriously - I think every project should have a goal, and should eventually reach the goal in a finite amount of time. The fact that jakarta-regexp just works and has met its goals is a

Re: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-19 Thread Erik Hatcher
+1 Sam Ruby wrote: Gump is now two years old. It has had contributions from over a dozen people, about a half-dozen this month alone. There seems to be a renewed interest in gump (some in response to a little nudging grin). Considering all of this, what I would like to propose is that

RE: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-19 Thread Scott Sanders
+1. Gump should be community property. Scott -Original Message- From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 9:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property Gump is now two years old. It has had

Re: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-19 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Sam Ruby wrote: Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:21:03 -0500 From: Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property Gump is now two years old. It has had contributions

RE: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-19 Thread Scott Sanders
I would be +1 for any apache committer. -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:33 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property I like the idea of Gump becoming

Re: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-19 Thread Sam Ruby
Craig R. McClanahan wrote: I like the idea of Gump becoming community property, but should it really be only for Jakarta committers? I'm thinking in particular about groups like Ant and Avalon (recently graduated into full fledged Apache projects), as well as the XML packages that Gump also

RE: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread O'brien, Tim
Where are the November board minutes now that they have been approved at yesterday's board meeting? Tim O'Brien W 847-574-2143 M 847-863-7045 -Original Message- From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:45 AM To: Jakarta General List

Re: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-19 Thread Conor MacNeill
Sam Ruby wrote: Considering all of this, what I would like to propose is that the contents of jakarta-alexandria/proposal/gump get moved to jakarta-gump, all committers to any jakarta code base be given karma and voting rights on the full contents (descriptors, code, and stylesheets alike) and

Re: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-19 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Sam Ruby wrote: Craig R. McClanahan wrote: I like the idea of Gump becoming community property, but should it really be only for Jakarta committers? I'm thinking in particular about groups like Ant and Avalon (recently graduated into full fledged Apache projects), as well as the XML packages

[OT] Re: GUI of the website, where's an overview? (not simply found)

2002-12-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Me too. And my younger stepson has a cute little voice. So he was playing with Clay and patted it into a semi-round circle and said here, it's Bambi-burger...yummm.. And I pretended to eat it... Gotta pick some more Bambi up...m (oh wait ... I forgot... I'm vegetarian this week for

Re: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Sam Ruby wrote: Gump is now two years old. It has had contributions from over a dozen people, about a half-dozen this month alone. There seems to be a renewed interest in gump (some in response to a little nudging grin). Considering all of this, what I would like to propose is that the

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Yup, just like Tomcat 3...which should have reached its goal years ago. -jon The Andy theorem on general Apache Jakarta discussions continues to prove true (they all devolve into a rehash of the bad ol days of Tomcat 3.3/4)... Please don't take the bait guys... Pretty please? -Andy

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002/12/19 10:25 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Andy theorem on general Apache Jakarta discussions continues to prove true (they all devolve into a rehash of the bad ol days of Tomcat 3.3/4)... Please don't take the bait guys... Pretty please? -Andy Sorry, it is a

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
The point being that we seem to continue to do the same circle. We get people like Nicola who are similar to Costin in The Wall mindset and the same exact discussions go round and round just on different topics (ie: Maven vs. Centipede vs. Forrest vs. vs. vs. vs.). Okay. I'll bite I love

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Sam Ruby
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Come on. Does anyone really *like* XSL? I do. http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/jakarta-alexandria/proposal/gump/stylesheet/xref.xsl?rev=1.21content-type=text/plain - Sam Ruby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Not that this discussion has any useful point.. . But I adore the purpose and concepts behind XSLT, but I LOATHE the syntax. However, now that I know it, its not so bad. -Andy Sam Ruby wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Come on. Does anyone really *like* XSL? I do.

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Thursday, December 19, 2002, at 07:13 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Come on. Does anyone really *like* XSL? I do. I actually like the declarative model I sometimes have trouble in that processing syntax is not orthogonal to the syntax of what you are generally

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Thursday, December 19, 2002, at 07:13 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Come on. Does anyone really *like* XSL? I do. I actually like the declarative model I sometimes have trouble in that processing syntax is not orthogonal to the

Re: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-19 Thread Martin Cooper
+1 Not sure what I could help with, but ping me if you think of something. ;-) -- Martin Cooper On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Sam Ruby wrote: Gump is now two years old. It has had contributions from over a dozen people, about a half-dozen this month alone. There seems to be a renewed interest in