Re: OSX

[Jon Scott Stevens]

on 2003/1/17 5:46 PM, "Brian McCallister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sun hasn't released a 1.4 JDK for OSX yet, but I use quite a few of the
> 1.4 features daily for work. Is there a ultra-sekret 1.4 JDK for OSX out
> that i am unaware of, or are all of the OSX'ers in Apache using 1.3?

There is a beta 1.4.x JDK...it has bugs, but I have been using it fairly
well for a while now...click the 'Join ADC' button and you can setup a free
account which will give you access...nice thing is that account works across
all of apple's various login pages on their site...

http://connect.apple.com

-jon


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OSX

[Brian McCallister]

On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 14:38, Peter Royal wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 02:13  PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
> > Seems as if most of Jakarta use OS X now. Is it just that us X-junkies 
> > are
> > loud and proud about it?
> 
> I switched recently ( ~ 4mo ). It would be interesting to conduct an 
> informal poll.
> -pete

Related to OSX - I am seriously considering moving I just have a concern
about JDK's.

Sun hasn't released a 1.4 JDK for OSX yet, but I use quite a few of the
1.4 features daily for work. Is there a ultra-sekret 1.4 JDK for OSX out
that i am unaware of, or are all of the OSX'ers in Apache using 1.3?

Thanks,
Brian


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Re: [PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

[Morgan Delagrange]

Are the current PMC members automatically re-upped? 
And it sounds like there won't have to be a massive
all-committer election like last year, which I'm sure
will be a relief to Dirk.  ;)  

Sounds like Jakarta PMC membership will become more
like Apache membership; once you're in, you can stay
in as long as you remain active.

- Morgan

--- Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Reorging the Jakarta PMC apparently has become an
> annual event.  This
> year will be no different.  I've had lengthy talks
> with the Apache
> Board, and this has caused me to revisit a number of
> assumptions.
> 
> Looking at http://httpd.apache.org/contributors/, it
> is clear that the
> ASF concept of a Project Management Committee
> permits a significantly
> larger number of PMC members per project than I, at
> least, had ever
> presumed.
> 
> Given the success that Jakarta has had to date, I
> don't want to propose
> any rapid, irreversable, or disruptive changes.  But
> the goal should be
> clear: the PMC should consist of *all* the people
> who are actively and
> consistently monitoring the code.
> 
> So for the first step, I'd like to nominate the
> following individuals
> who have contributed multiple times to the Jakarta
> newsletter and/or 
> recently served as a release manager of a Jakarta
> subproject:
> 
>[  ]  Nicola Ken Barozzi
>[  ]  Stephen Colebourne
>[  ]  Martin Cooper
>[  ]  Henri Gomez
>[  ]  John Keyes
>[  ]  Larry Isaacs
>[  ]  Otis Gospodnetic
>[  ]  Thomas Mahler
>[  ]  Remy Maucherat
>[  ]  Glenn Nielsen
>[  ]  Andrew C Oliver
>[  ]  Rob Oxspring
>[  ]  Martin Poeschl
>[  ]  Scott Sanders
>[  ]  David Sean Taylor
>[  ]  Mladen Turk
>[  ]  James Turner
>[  ]  Henri Yandell
> 
> Future steps will include introduction of a concept
> of an emeritus PMC
> member, reinstating prior PMC members who are still
> active, and more
> nominations (particularly those that chose to
> contribute to the
> newsletter, and/or act as release manager, hint,
> hint).
> 
> Longer term, the plan is to move the subprojects
> that chose to remain in
> Jakarta towards becoming a single community - in
> particular release
> votes will become a responsibility of the PMC.  That
> does not mean that
> all PMC members will vote on all releases, but that
> it will be from this
> pool of members that release votes will be cast. 
> Clearly there will
> need to be a number waves of additions like the one
> above to the PMC
> before we get to this point.
> 
> Meanwhile, my plan is to see to it that those
> subprojects that desire to
> become ASF projects will get the full cooperation
> and support of this PMC.
> 
> Now for some fine print:
> 
> * nominees may chose to decline without giving any
> reason
> 
> * only current PMC member's votes are binding
> 
> * once the vote completes, PMC membership is not
> effective until 48
> hours after a board member acknowledges receipt of
> these votes.
> 
> Let the voting begin!
> 
> - Sam Ruby
> 
> P.S.  My vote is +1 on all.
> 
> 
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Re: [PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

[Stefan Bodewig]

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So for the first step, I'd like to nominate the following
> individuals
> 
>[  ]  Nicola Ken Barozzi
>[  ]  Stephen Colebourne
>[  ]  Martin Cooper
>[  ]  Henri Gomez
>[  ]  John Keyes
>[  ]  Larry Isaacs
>[  ]  Otis Gospodnetic
>[  ]  Thomas Mahler
>[  ]  Remy Maucherat
>[  ]  Glenn Nielsen
>[  ]  Andrew C Oliver
>[  ]  Rob Oxspring
>[  ]  Martin Poeschl
>[  ]  Scott Sanders
>[  ]  David Sean Taylor
>[  ]  Mladen Turk
>[  ]  James Turner
>[  ]  Henri Yandell

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Andrew C. Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I propose to nominate Glen Stampoultzis

On 16 Jan 2003, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Also want ask you to also nominate Robert Burrel Donkin.

+1 to all of them.

Stefan

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Re: [PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

[Costin Manolache]

+1 for all.

+1 for  Glen Stampoultzis ( cut&pasted last name :-) and  Robert Burrel 
Donkin.

Costin

Sam Ruby wrote:

> Reorging the Jakarta PMC apparently has become an annual event.  This
> year will be no different.  I've had lengthy talks with the Apache
> Board, and this has caused me to revisit a number of assumptions.
> 
> Looking at http://httpd.apache.org/contributors/, it is clear that the
> ASF concept of a Project Management Committee permits a significantly
> larger number of PMC members per project than I, at least, had ever
> presumed.
> 
> Given the success that Jakarta has had to date, I don't want to propose
> any rapid, irreversable, or disruptive changes.  But the goal should be
> clear: the PMC should consist of *all* the people who are actively and
> consistently monitoring the code.
> 
> So for the first step, I'd like to nominate the following individuals
> who have contributed multiple times to the Jakarta newsletter and/or
> recently served as a release manager of a Jakarta subproject:
> 
>[  ]  Nicola Ken Barozzi
>[  ]  Stephen Colebourne
>[  ]  Martin Cooper
>[  ]  Henri Gomez
>[  ]  John Keyes
>[  ]  Larry Isaacs
>[  ]  Otis Gospodnetic
>[  ]  Thomas Mahler
>[  ]  Remy Maucherat
>[  ]  Glenn Nielsen
>[  ]  Andrew C Oliver
>[  ]  Rob Oxspring
>[  ]  Martin Poeschl
>[  ]  Scott Sanders
>[  ]  David Sean Taylor
>[  ]  Mladen Turk
>[  ]  James Turner
>[  ]  Henri Yandell
> 
> Future steps will include introduction of a concept of an emeritus PMC
> member, reinstating prior PMC members who are still active, and more
> nominations (particularly those that chose to contribute to the
> newsletter, and/or act as release manager, hint, hint).
> 
> Longer term, the plan is to move the subprojects that chose to remain in
> Jakarta towards becoming a single community - in particular release
> votes will become a responsibility of the PMC.  That does not mean that
> all PMC members will vote on all releases, but that it will be from this
> pool of members that release votes will be cast.  Clearly there will
> need to be a number waves of additions like the one above to the PMC
> before we get to this point.
> 
> Meanwhile, my plan is to see to it that those subprojects that desire to
> become ASF projects will get the full cooperation and support of this PMC.
> 
> Now for some fine print:
> 
> * nominees may chose to decline without giving any reason
> 
> * only current PMC member's votes are binding
> 
> * once the vote completes, PMC membership is not effective until 48
> hours after a board member acknowledges receipt of these votes.
> 
> Let the voting begin!
> 
> - Sam Ruby
> 
> P.S.  My vote is +1 on all.



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RE: [PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

[Danny Angus]

Sam wrote:

> Meanwhile, my plan is to see to it that those subprojects that desire to
> become ASF projects will get the full cooperation and support of this PMC.

I should take this opportunity to let everyone know that James' commiters have voted 
to do this.
We see it not as leaving Jakarta, but growing up. We're pretty much autonomous in our 
day-to-day workings, we have a mature code-base and a self-sustaining (if compact) 
community, and although we keep our eyes on the rest of Jakarta the only part we're 
closely tied to is Avalon, and they're moving too.

As far as I'm concerned there is no "goodbye" in all of this, its just a normalisation 
of the status-quo. Jakarta contains many fertile brains which James would be mad to 
ignore, James will continue to look to Jakarta as a role model and a key resource, and 
I hope as individuals, we can continue to be involved in the life and progress of the 
project.

d.


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