Re: I feel so vindicated.

2003-01-30 Thread jean-frederic clere
Jon Scott Stevens wrote: http://www.freeroller.net/page/ara_e/20021214 I think we are going to see more and more of this over the coming year as the economy gets worse and worse and people are expected to produce real working applications. People are going to start to clue in to the fact that

cvs checkout on cvs.apache.org doesn't work ...?

2003-01-30 Thread manuel . olivera
Hi, When I try to loging on the jakarta's anoncvs, i get this message : C:\maven2 cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic login (Logging in to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) CVS password: Unknown host cvs.apache.org. Do you have an idea ? Could my proxy cause this ? I hope i didn't bother you

Re: cvs checkout on cvs.apache.org doesn't work ...?

2003-01-30 Thread Ben Walding
Seems to be ok from my end... Logging in to :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/home/cvspublic CVS password: cvs server: Updating jakarta-turbine-maven U jakarta-turbine-maven/.cvsignore U jakarta-turbine-maven/LICENSE.txt ... make sure you can ping cvs.apache.org You are aware that cvs doesn't

Réf. : Re: cvs checkout on cvs.apache.orgdoesn't work ...?

2003-01-30 Thread manuel . olivera
I can't ping cvs.apache.org. Actually, I have to deal with an http proxy ( and I was'nt aware that cvs doesn't work with ) Is it possible to configure cvs to work with it ? Thanx a lot. Manuel Extranet [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 30/01/2003 14:01 Veuillez répondre à [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pour :

Re: Réf. : Re: cvs checkout on cvs.apache.org doesn't work ...?

2003-01-30 Thread Steven Noels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't ping cvs.apache.org. Actually, I have to deal with an http proxy ( and I was'nt aware that cvs doesn't work with ) Is it possible to configure cvs to work with it ? have a look at http://cvsgrab.sourceforge.net/ /Steven -- Steven Noels

JCP Process [Was nice ;-)]

2003-01-30 Thread Santiago Gala
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: (...) It's the compromise we/I willingly make to be able to work inside the process to help shape it the way we/I think it should be shaped. The only alternative is to try to start another standards body, but I think you will find that, like the other standards

Re: JCP Process [Was nice ;-)]

2003-01-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 10:30 AM, Santiago Gala wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: (...) It's the compromise we/I willingly make to be able to work inside the process to help shape it the way we/I think it should be shaped. The only alternative is to try to start another standards

Re: JCP Process [Was nice ;-)]

2003-01-30 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 10:30 AM, Santiago Gala wrote: Agreed, good supporting feedback, and this is something that is a current topic of interest in the JCP EC. We (the members of the EC, the ASF being a member) are interested in

Réf. : Re: Réf. : Re: cvs checkout on cvs.apache.org doesn't work ...?

2003-01-30 Thread manuel . olivera
It works ! Thanks a lot ! Extranet [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 30/01/2003 14:11 Veuillez répondre à [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pour : general cc : Objet : Re: Réf. : Re: cvs checkout on cvs.apache.org doesn't work ...? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't ping cvs.apache.org. Actually, I have

Re: JCP Process [Was nice ;-)]

2003-01-30 Thread Santiago Gala
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: (...) agreed Yes - indeed. The idea is to have more public participation (vote early and often, as they say in Chicago :) in the process w/o the EG having to expand to include only the mildly interested, and w/o having constraints like an NDA placed on the

Re: I feel so vindicated.

2003-01-30 Thread Micael
However wrong or right you are or were, Jon, the place you site is clearly written by a box of rocks. At 11:58 PM 1/29/03 -0800, you wrote: http://www.freeroller.net/page/ara_e/20021214 I think we are going to see more and more of this over the coming year as the economy gets worse and worse

Re: LGPL beans imported into code at Apache....

2003-01-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 30/1/03 7:58 Paul Hammant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: different subject/ I am not sure of Steffano's assertion that a Cocoon block can be GPL from the last of that thread.. If it does an import of org.apache.anything it is in trouble from my understanding of RMS's typed GPL wisdoms (pasted

Re: nice

2003-01-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 30/1/03 13:26 Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 10:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, for instance, I was once interviewed for a contract to hire gig at Microsoft. (This was circa '97 prior to my involvment in Java). Had I sold my soul,

Re: LGPL beans imported into code at Apache....

2003-01-30 Thread Henri Yandell
Mr RMS then needs to publish something about using LGPL/GPL with Java. Personally I agree with the need for LGPL for library applications, however LGPL's wording is phrased in C terminology and I have never seen anyone offering good legal advice on whether LGPL is usable with Java properly. So

Re: nice

2003-01-30 Thread acoliver
Right but he's not AFAIK working there now and potentially exposed to NDA-tainted individuals :-) -Andy - Original Message - From: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:31 PM Subject: Re: nice

Re: [Discussion] (Fake)Forrest for Jakarta!

2003-01-30 Thread Glen Stampoultzis
Hi. I think this is important and I would love to see some unification of skins on Apache. While we may choose to use different tools to build our sites but I think we should push to make the look of the project consistent. The current mess of different skins makes the site look sloppy.

Re: [Discussion] (Fake)Forrest for Jakarta!

2003-01-30 Thread dion
Content of the site is far more important to me than the skin. I'd much rather we had all projects/sites listing a common, agreed upon set of information that is useful. For example, the set of reports maven produces under the heading Project Info (see

Re: The Jakarta Site Was: [Discussion] (Fake)Forrest for Jakarta!

2003-01-30 Thread dion
Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 31/01/2003 02:28:59 PM: [snip] However, a consistent skin might actually be the best way to get a consistently labelled and functional site together. Now I get to disagree with Dion :) His list of important things, the ones Maven produce, are by and

Re: The Jakarta Site Was: [Discussion] (Fake)Forrest for Jakarta!

2003-01-30 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 31/01/2003 02:28:59 PM: How about we give these items some names: Sounds good. 1) Where do I download? Downloads 2) Has their been a release? Release Notes Possibly this should be 'Status' as

RE: The Jakarta Site Was: [Discussion] (Fake)Forrest for Jakarta!

2003-01-30 Thread Christoph Wilhelms
Hi! Sorry! Just picking one point, but :)! 7) What Apache community does Project X belong to? What's an Apache community? Do you mean 'top-level project'? Nope. Like, Jakarta should point to the Apache front page somewhere, Ant should too. BSF should point to Jakarta. Agrreed 100% -

RE: The Jakarta Site Was: [Discussion] (Fake)Forrest for Jakarta!

2003-01-30 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Christoph Wilhelms wrote: Sorry! Just picking one point, but :)! Slice it all apart, one point at a time :) 7) What Apache community does Project X belong to? What's an Apache community? Do you mean 'top-level project'? Nope. Like, Jakarta should point to the