Re: Jakarta POI audit.

2003-02-06 Thread Martin van den Bemt
In summary, there are no controversial licensing issues for the Jakarta POI project itself. The only area of question is whether Centipede's use of LGPL libraries and POI's use of Centipede as a build tool constitutes a problem. We are eager to resolve this in the event the board sees

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread James Strachan
From: Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maven is a nice tool - and I wish it good luck wherever it goes. But if Maven charter will include the creation of a maven-only repository - I hope at least some board members will vote -1. I don't see that ever happening. Already the Maven repository

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread Sam Ruby
Jason van Zyl wrote: BTW, for the record, was the creation of the jakarta-turbine-maven resources (CVS and lists) approved by this PMC? Yes, they were. The creation of the lists didn't get by Sam. It was Costin who argued that each project should be allowed to do what it likes. Ack. For

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread Costin Manolache
Jason van Zyl wrote: Gump _never_ used an object model, never. Gump was targeted at overall control by a small set of people (and it's still that way, no one outside of Jakarta/XML barely knows what it is) to build sources against CVS. That's not what Maven was ever targeted at, ever. Maven

Re: [OT] Re: [Proposal] Jakarta Ruper

2003-02-06 Thread acoliver
A great Idea! I look forward to seeing you on the ruper(or whatever it ends up being named) list! Moreover, the advantage of Java in this case is that we can distribute binaries, which reduces the installation time from centuries to minutes. My tests with an ebuild for Maven were quite

Re: Jakarta POI audit.

2003-02-06 Thread acoliver
Excellent. It took me about 15 minutes to prepare this audit. Because I take my responsibility as a: member (including my oversight responsibility) Jakarta PMC member committer developer POI-person good citizen of the Apache community seriously, I intend to perform this audit at least

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread dion
Costin, what's a 'maven-only' repository? -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Blog: http://www.freeroller.net/page/dion/Weblog Work: http://www.multitask.com.au news [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/02/2003 04:53:05 AM: Sam Ruby wrote: Those that care to participate, please

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread dion
news [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/02/2003 06:00:32 AM: I am talking about this in the context of the other discussions on having an apache repository ( and use the apache mirroring system, etc). Also in the context of having a common policy on how releases will be distributed and structured

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
repository. The 'apache repository' and the ones maven can use (note that maven can have multiple repositories) are not necessarily one and the same thing. We have a 'repository' at a customer site I work on, as well as one at the office. Apache hosting its own (of whatever format is agreed)

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread Steve Downey
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project] BTW, given the license discussions it seems unlikely a solution that includes all the jars in the same place will work. So the

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread Martin Poeschl
Steve Downey wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project] BTW, given the license discussions it seems unlikely a solution that includes all the jars in the same

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread Dan Diephouse
Steve Downey wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project] BTW, given the license discussions it seems unlikely a solution that includes all the jars in the same place

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread Costin Manolache
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Costin, what's a 'maven-only' repository? There are at least 3 build tools in apache: ant is one of them, gump and maven ( there are more actually ). There are many projects whose releases will be in such a repositroy. The policy and the format of the descriptors

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread Sam Ruby
Dan Diephouse wrote: Steve Downey wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project] BTW, given the license discussions it seems unlikely a solution that includes all the

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread dion
Steve Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/02/2003 01:13:24 PM: One thing that has annoyed me is that Maven will download jars from the ibiblio repository with no regard to the license of them. It's an easy way for jars to come into a build without formal review and acceptance of the

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread Costin Manolache
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, but let's not lose focus of what this is for. Distribution? Building? A company/individual can set up their own repository of jars (we all do) that they've accepted licenses for. The 'tools' should be able to work with that set up, similar to how Maven does

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread Dan Diephouse
Sam Ruby wrote: It is your responsibility to enforce that policy. Not maven and not the ASF's. When you integrate JAR or any resource into your project you are doing so delibrately. You should know where that jar originally comes from. If you don't, ask on the developers or user's list.

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread Sam Ruby
Dan Diephouse wrote: People should have a resonable expectation that building an ASF project should not involve the download of materials in violation of their licenses or the incurring of any additional obligations. Enforcement of this policy via Maven or simply by peer review of POMs are

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Dan Diephouse wrote: 4. Can ASF Projects use Sun BCL licensed products? Yes, but ASF can't distribute them. Each product you download from Sun's java.sun.com web site has a license that you have to agree to in order to download that JAR. In the case of several

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 16:45, Sam Ruby wrote: Jason, now let me ask you a direct question: if you don't want to work with the Apache infrastructure I am first concerned with setting up the infrastructure that Maven requires in order to satisfy the needs of people building projects. L/GPL

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 22:06, Sam Ruby wrote: It is your responsibility to enforce that policy. Not maven and not the ASF's. When you integrate JAR or any resource into your project you are doing so delibrately. You should know where that jar originally comes from. If you don't,

Illegal distribution of binaries by Gump

2003-02-06 Thread dion
I've noticed that Gump distributes (via gump.covalent.net) several jar files which appear to violate the license agreements found in the projects. - xmlunit: The license requires: * Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the

Re: Illegal distribution of binaries by Gump

2003-02-06 Thread Sam Ruby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that Gump distributes (via gump.covalent.net) several jar files which appear to violate the license agreements found in the projects. - xmlunit: The license requires: * Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list