Babeldoc Proposal

2003-06-03 Thread McDonald, Bruce
All,

I am the project leader for the Babeldoc project (http://www.babeldoc.com) and have 
been tasked to see if we can join the Jakarta project.  We are currently an open 
source project (GPL) hosted on SourceForge but we have found ourselves relying more 
and more on Jakarta code.  Additionally we think that are a good fit for Jakarta since 
Babeldoc is complementary to the projects on Jakarta - Babeldoc does stuff that is not 
done by any other project in Jakarta.  

I have read the guidelines given on your subprojects page and feel that we (mostly) 
comply with all the points.  Please advise me as to the next steps.  We are prepared 
to change the license on the code.

regards,

Bruce McDonald.

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Re: Babeldoc Proposal

2003-06-03 Thread Peter Donald
Hi,

If you are serious about this then there is a couple of things I would do to 
make Jakarta peeps take note. 

* change the license to Apache-like or lighter (ie BSDL)
* change the way you run the project to be in the Apache tradition (ie 
meritocracy and our decision making process)
* start talking with Apache projects that you are likely to collaborate with 
(cocoon and Jelly jump to mind).
* make sure the developer community is obvious (couldn't see anything off your 
website)

As to the code - it looks really good and the documentation is great aswell. 
However Apache largely considers quality a side-effect of a good community so 
it is not sufficient to just be good code.

Anyways I would definetly talk to some cocoon people as they will hopefully be 
interested - they have what is a very similar framework except that it is 
broader reaching, centrally controlled and pull based where yours seems 
simpler and more focused. You may be able to collaborate with them on 
implementation of stages.

Anyways the best way to become a part of the community is to reach out and 
start talking with people who are in similar areas and you can collaborate 
with. Hopefully someone will step up to be a sponsor and after you have 
done that drop by incubator.apache.org lists and make the proposals.

On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:12 pm, McDonald, Bruce wrote:
 All,

 I am the project leader for the Babeldoc project (http://www.babeldoc.com)
 and have been tasked to see if we can join the Jakarta project.  We are
 currently an open source project (GPL) hosted on SourceForge but we have
 found ourselves relying more and more on Jakarta code.  Additionally we
 think that are a good fit for Jakarta since Babeldoc is complementary to
 the projects on Jakarta - Babeldoc does stuff that is not done by any other
 project in Jakarta.

 I have read the guidelines given on your subprojects page and feel that we
 (mostly) comply with all the points.  Please advise me as to the next
 steps.  We are prepared to change the license on the code.

 regards,

 Bruce McDonald.

 PS.  This is my work email.  I can be contacted at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Babeldoc Proposal

2003-06-03 Thread Paul Hammant
Two more things..

1) Be aware that you cannot ultimately import any GPL (or LGPL without explicit 
permission of
authors) code to org.apache.* packaged code (policy).  

2) Read up on the chatter concerning the POI project's arrival that started 15 months 
ago.  Hard
for them, but worth it.

See you on the incubator list in some time ?

- Paul


 If you are serious about this then there is a couple of things I would do to 
 make Jakarta peeps take note. 
 
 * change the license to Apache-like or lighter (ie BSDL)

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RE: Products List available as of 31st May, 2003

2003-06-03 Thread Larry Isaacs
Hi Tetsuya,

A minor change.

Jakarta Tomcat should be 3.3.1a instead of 3.3.1-alpha.

The a is indicating it is a patched release derived
from the 3.3.1 release, which was done to address a security
problem.

Thanks,
Larry


 -Original Message-
 From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:21 AM
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Products List available as of 31st May, 2003
 
 
 Hello, 
 (To: jakarta-general)
 
 Thanks to some feedbacks, probably this list
 is more accurate.
 
 And I am still waiting for the reports, feedbacks
 to this list.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 --Jakarta Productsas of 31st May, 2003--
 Jakarta BCEL  5.1
 Jakarta BSF   2.3.0
 Jakarta Commons
   Commons-Proper
 BeanUtils 1.6.1
   Betwixt 1.0-Alpha
   CLI 1.0
   Codec   1.1
   Collections 2.1
   DBCP1.0
   Digester1.5
   Discovery   0.2-Pre-Release
   EL  (Nightly Builds Only)
   FileUpload  1.0-Beta1
   HttpClient  2.0-Beta1
   Jelly   1.0-Beta3
   Jexl(Nightly Builds Only)
   JXPath  1.1
   Lang1.0.1
   Latka   1.0-Alpha
   Logging 1.0.3
   Modeler 1.0
   Net 1.0.0
   Pool1.0.1
   Validator   1.0.2
 Jakarta ECS   1.4.1
 Jakarta JMeter1.8.1
 Jakarta Log4j 1.2.8
 Jakarta ORO   2.0.7 (2.0.8-dev)
 Jakarta POI   1.5.1 (1.10-dev)
 Jakarta Regexp1.2 (1.3-dev)
 Jakarta Taglibs   1.2 (Standard JSTL)
 Jakarta Watchdog  4.0.0
 --
 Jakarta Cactus1.4.1
 Jakarta Lucene1.3-rc1
 Jakarta Gump  N/A
 Jakarta Struts1.1-rc1
 Jakarta Tapestry  2.4-alpha5 (soon 3.0-beta-1)
 Jakarta Turbine   2.2.0 (2.3-dev)
   Fulcrum 
   TDK 
   JCS 
 Jakarta Velocity  1.3.1
 --
 Jakarta Alexandria0.1
 Jakarta Jetspeed  1.4.1-beta4
 Jakarta Slide 1.0.16
 Jakarta Tomcat3.3.1-alpha
   4.1.24
   5.0.2-alpha
 ---Jakarta Related--
 Apache Ant
   Ant 1.5.3
 Apache Avalon
   Framework
   Framework   4.1.3
   Components
   Excalibur   4.1
   Phoenix 4.0.3
   LogKit  1.2
 Apache DB
   OJB 1.0-rc3
   Torque  3.1-alpha1 (3.1-alpha2-dev)
 Apache Httpd
   HTTPD   2.0.46
 Apache Incubator
   AltRMI  0.9.1
   FTPServer   0.1
   (Lenya  1.0-rc) ... donated to Cocoon
 Apache James
   James   2.1.3
 Apache Maven
   Maven   1.0-beta10
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cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml

2003-06-03 Thread hlship
hlship  2003/06/02 10:47:11

  Modified:docs/site binindex.html sourceindex.html news.html
   docs index.html
   xdocs/site sourceindex.xml binindex.xml news.xml
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  Add Tapestry 3.0-beta-1 release notice, and Tapestry mirror links.
  
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  @@ -267,6 +267,7 @@
 lia href=[preferred]/jakarta/regexp/Regexp 1.2/a/li
 lia href=[preferred]/jakarta/struts/binaries/Struts 1.1 Release 
Candidate 1/a/li
 lia href=[preferred]/jakarta/taglibs/Taglibs/a/li
  +  lia href=[preferred]/jakarta/tapestry/binaries/3.0-beta-1/Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1/a/li
 lia href=[preferred]/jakarta/tomcat-4/binaries/Tomcat 
4.1.24/a/li
   /ul
   a name=mainh3Main 
distribution site/h3/a
  @@ -305,6 +306,7 @@
   lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-slide/release/1.0/;Slide 
1.0.16/a/li
   lia 
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-struts/release/v1.0.2/;Struts 
1.0.2/a/li
   lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/taglibs/;Taglibs/a/li
  +lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tapestry/;Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1/a/li
   lia 
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat/release/v3.2.4/bin/;Tomcat 
3.2.4/a/li
   lia 
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat/release/v3.3.1a/bin/;Tomcat 
3.3.1a/a/li
   lia 
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0.6/;Tomcat 
4.0.6/a/li
  @@ -331,6 +333,7 @@
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href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-jmeter/unstable/v1.7.2/;JMeter 
1.7.2/a/li
   lia href=http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-poi/dev/bin/;POI 1.10-dev 
(early 2.0 development build)/a/li
   lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/struts/binaries/;Struts 1.1 
Release Candidate 1/a/li
  +lia 
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tapestry/binaries/3.0-beta-1/;Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1/a/li
   lia 
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat/release/v5.0.2-alpha/;Tomcat 
5.0.2 Alpha/a/li
   lia 
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-velocity/release/v1.3/;Velocity 
1.3-rc1/a/li
   /ul
  
  
  
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  diff -u -r1.205 -r1.206
  --- sourceindex.html  30 May 2003 06:04:27 -  1.205
  +++ sourceindex.html  2 Jun 2003 17:47:10 -   1.206
  @@ -266,6 +266,7 @@
 lia href=[preferred]/jakarta/log4j/source/Log4j 1.2.8/a/li
 lia href=[preferred]/jakarta/oro/source/ORO 2.0.7/a/li
 lia href=[preferred]/jakarta/struts/source/Struts 1.1 Release 
Candidate 1/a/li
  +  lia href=[preferred]/jakarta/tapestry/source/Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1/a/li  
 lia href=[preferred]/jakarta/tomcat-4/source/Tomcat 4.1.24/a/li
   /ul
   a name=mainh3Main 
distribution site/h3/a
  @@ -299,6 +300,7 @@
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   lia href=http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-poi/release/src/;POI 
1.5.1-FINAL (production release)/a/li
   lia 
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1.0.2/a/li
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3.0-beta-1/a/li
   lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tomcat/release/v3.2.4/src/;Tomcat 
3.2.4/a/li
   lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tomcat/release/v3.3.1a/src/;Tomcat 
3.3.1a/a/li
   lia 
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0.6/src/;Tomcat
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  @@ -323,6 +325,7 @@
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1.7.2/a/li
   lia href=http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-poi/dev/src/;POI 1.8-dev 
(early development build)/a/li
   lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/struts/source/;Struts 1.1 Release 
Candidate 1/a/li
  +lia 
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tapestry/source/3.0-beta-1/;Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1/a/li
   /ul
   /blockquote
 /td/tr
  
  
  
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cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets project.xml

2003-06-03 Thread hlship
hlship  2003/06/02 11:09:47

  Modified:docs/site news-2000.html decisions.html faqs.html
guides.html vendors.html methodology.html
packageversioning.html understandingopensource.html
mission.html contact.html news.html elsewhere.html
library.html dirlayout.html idiot.html
idedevelopers.html guidelines.html agreement.html
mail2.html versioning.html cvsindex.html
jakarta-site-tags-example.html communication.html
getinvolved.html jspa-position.html
idedev-rdtomcat.html idedev-rdeclipse.html
contributing.html jars.html news-2001.html
source.html cvsonunix.html binindex.html bugs.html
newbie.html roles.html idedev-rdnetbeans.html
acknowledgements.html news-2002.html
newproject.html proposal.html jspa-agreement.html
sourceindex.html whoweare.html mail.html
jakarta-site2b.html jakarta-site2.html
management.html micromail.html overview.html
jon.html cvsonwin32.html legal.html os.html
jakarta-site-tags.html
   docs/site/news 200209.html 200210.html 200206.html
200211.html 200208.html index.html 200301.html
200212.html 200303.html 200207.html
   docs/site/pmc 01-03-19-meeting-summary.html
01-04-22-meeting-irclog.html
01-01-17-meeting-minutes.html
02-01-30-elections.html 01-01-17-pictures.html
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  @@ -138,7 +138,7 @@
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Re: Products List available as of 31st May, 2003

2003-06-03 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata

On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:21:27 -0400
(Subject: RE: Products List available as of 31st May, 2003)
Larry Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Tetsuya,
 
 A minor change.
 
 Jakarta Tomcat should be 3.3.1a instead of 3.3.1-alpha.
 
 The a is indicating it is a patched release derived
 from the 3.3.1 release, which was done to address a security
 problem.
 
 Thanks,
 Larry

Thank you for the mentions. I see, a means advanced, adjusted
or something, right?
Again, many thanks Larry.

--

By the way, probably you can use the list of the
products list available as of 31st May, 2003
in the upcoming newsletter and to check the difference
between downloadable versions on binindex.cgi.
How do you think?  Robert.

Sincerely,

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Bug in maven b9, affecting some jakarta releases

2003-06-03 Thread Brian Ewins
There is a bug in Maven Beta 9 (the current release) that causes jars to 
be produced with invalid manifests. The problem with the manifests only 
comes to light when using the jars inside an Extension aware program - 
eg. Tomcat (releases that use org.apache.catalina.loader.Extension)

Jakarta projects using maven b9 to produce their releases are 
inadvertently causing people problems; we know that 
commons-httpclient-2.0-Beta1.jar is affected, and there may be others.

Instructions to fix your copy of b9 are here:
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?BrokenManifestInBeta9
Cheers,
Baz


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