Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2004-01-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Dude...three words:  switch to decaf ;-)

-Andy
-- 
Andrew C. Oliver
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The views expressed in this email are those of the author and are almost
definitely not shared by the Apache Software Foundation, its board or its
general membership.  In fact they probably most definitively disagree with
everything espoused in the above email.

 From: Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: The Apache Software Foundation, Committer
 Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 05:04:32 +0900
 To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status
 
 On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:27:30 -0500
 Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
 
 In HTTPD/APR world. mostly Apache MEMBERS = Apache COMMITTERS.
 (OH, you pointed it our, 6 months ago ;-)!
 You must mean HTTPD PMC Members ~= HTTPD Committers more ore less.  Yes.
 
 Obvious. HTTPD (Apache HTTP WebServer Project) does not
 have *general* list. That's all.
 
 # Jakarta should have it's own way, i hope. If Jakarta can't have such,
 # the board would be *wrong* ... that's all.
 
 
 Size matters.  This is obviously not feasible for Jakarta as we are
 demonstrating so aptly.
 
 Wow, Great. Size matter? Could you please describe the committer*ness*
 @ http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html
 ?? ... more ?? ;-)
 
 Can you describe the all the committers/PMC members@
 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html
 , by the way? ;-)
 
 You/I can see the difference. Yep. This is the root of the evil.
 This *MUST* be fixed.
 I'd like to see the jakarta XXX PMC groups to be organized into
 subgroups realms. Jakarta has it's own brand. You can have either
 Jakarta POI or Apache POI, i guess... subsets of the group.
 .. thus would be integrated into the jakarta PMC in the near future.
 This is essentially the formalization of how it is of course.
 
 Okeydokey
 
 Suffices. APR/HTTPD guys would be gratified, i hope.
 Could you please explain why the discussion lasts forever?
 First, we're trying too many people come to a consensus on a non-technical
 issue.  Second, because we're trying to over-manage and uber-manage things.
 
 Yes, i know that non-technical issue should be open.
 
 It will only get worse.  It would be even worse if it were in private.
 
 I can not trust you ;-) . (joke) so I do not make such an issue
 to be in private :-) // nothing to be got worse
 
 My point was merely to point out the puppet strings, not to join the
 puppets.  ;-)
 
 Puppet? Andy? ... are you puppet? ... of what?
 
 I am sure that you are *far from* the puppet of XYZ ..
 ... as you are the puppet of the united states :-).
 
 I am sure that you guys are wrong about the interpretations
 of the comments from the board members. I'd like to see the
 board members opinions here @ [EMAIL PROTECTED], directly.
 
 ... Critical issue... maybe ... D'OH
 
 We, Jakarta-n, should *not* be humiliated by the BOARD members ;-)
 I'd like to have the opinions from board members directly here.
 This might improve the PMCness of the Jakarta, i hope.
 
 --
 
 I'd like to know why the PMC list @ jakarta *WAS* full of disputes
 over the TLP-ness of XYZ ... Andy, could you please explain this more?
 
 Thanks, godness
 
 
 
 -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 
 
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cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs/site elsewhere.xml

2004-01-01 Thread tetsuya
tetsuya 2004/01/01 21:30:33

  Modified:docs index.html
   docs/site elsewhere.html
   xdocsindex.xml
   xdocs/site elsewhere.xml
  Log:
  31 December 2003 - Apache Xindice 1.1 beta 3 Released
  
  Congratulations, Apache Xindice Development Team!
  
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  Index: index.html
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  diff -u -r1.354 -r1.355
  --- index.html31 Dec 2003 14:42:25 -  1.354
  +++ index.html2 Jan 2004 05:30:33 -   1.355
  @@ -250,11 +250,11 @@
   h4Other news from a 
href=site/news.htmlJakarta/a 
   and a href=site/elsewhere.htmlElsewhere/a/h4
   ul
  +lia href=site/elsewhere.html#20031231.131 December 2003 - 
bApache Xindice 1.1 beta 3/b Released/a/li
   lia href=site/elsewhere.html#20031218.218 December 2003 - 
bApache Logging Services Project/b Launched/a/li
   lia href=site/elsewhere.html#20031218.118 December 2003 - 
bApache Ant 1.6.0/b Released/a/li
   lia href=site/elsewhere.html#20031121.121 November 2003- 
bXerces-J 2.6.0/b Released/a/li
   lia href=site/elsewhere.html#20031120.120 November 2003- 
bIncubated-JaxMe 0.2/b Released/a/li
  -lia href=site/elsewhere.html#20031114.114 November 2003- 
bApache Cocoon 2.1.3/b Released/a/li
   /ul
   /blockquote
   /p
  
  
  
  1.109 +34 -1 jakarta-site2/docs/site/elsewhere.html
  
  Index: elsewhere.html
  ===
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  retrieving revision 1.108
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  diff -u -r1.108 -r1.109
  --- elsewhere.html31 Dec 2003 14:42:25 -  1.108
  +++ elsewhere.html2 Jan 2004 05:30:33 -   1.109
  @@ -195,7 +195,40 @@
 /td/tr
 trtd
   blockquote
  -a name=20031218.2
  +a name=20031231.1
  +h331 December 2003 - Apache Xindice 1.1 beta 3 Released/h3
  +/a
  +p
  +**The Apache Xindice team is pleased to announce the release of the
  +next version of the Xindice native XML database: 
  +/p
  +p align=center
  +Apache Xindice 1.1b3
  +/p
  +p
  +This is the third release in the series of 1.1 beta releases.
  +Xindice 1.1b3 offers numerous bug fixes and improvements over
  +the last beta release. Some new features and enhancements were
  +introduced as well. You can find a list of changes here:br /
  +  a 
href=http://xml.apache.org/xindice/changes.html;http://xml.apache.org/xindice/changes.html/a
  +/p
  +p
  +Source and binary distributions compiled with JDK 1.3.1 are
  +available from the download page:br /
  +  a 
href=http://xml.apache.org/xindice/download.cgi;http://xml.apache.org/xindice/download.cgi/a
  +/p
  +p
  +Please send your comments and suggestions to the Xindice mailing
  +lists. Bug reports and patches are accepted via Bugzilla:
  +/p
  +p
  +  a 
href=http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/;http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla//a
  +/p
  +p
  +a href=http://xml.apache.org/xindice/;Apache Xindice/a Development Team.
  +/p
  +hr noshade=noshade size=1 /
  +a name=20031218.2
   h318 December 2003 - Apache Logging Services Project Launched/h3
   /a
   p
  
  
  
  1.293 +1 -1  jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
  
  Index: index.xml
  ===
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  diff -u -r1.292 -r1.293
  --- index.xml 31 Dec 2003 14:42:28 -  1.292
  +++ index.xml 2 Jan 2004 05:30:33 -   1.293
  @@ -57,11 +57,11 @@
   h4Other news from a href=site/news.htmlJakarta/a 
   and a href=site/elsewhere.htmlElsewhere/a/h4
   ul
  +lia href=site/elsewhere.html#20031231.131 December 2003 - 
bApache Xindice 1.1 beta 3/b Released/a/li
   lia href=site/elsewhere.html#20031218.218 December 2003 - 
bApache Logging Services Project/b Launched/a/li
   lia 

cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs/site binindex.xml sourceindex.xml

2004-01-01 Thread tetsuya
tetsuya 2004/01/01 21:35:44

  Modified:docs/site binindex.html sourceindex.html
   xdocs/site binindex.xml sourceindex.xml
  Log:
  Binindex.CGI  Sourceindex.CGI -- added a note -- how to catch up with release 
news @ jakarta
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.391 +2 -0  jakarta-site2/docs/site/binindex.html
  
  Index: binindex.html
  ===
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  retrieving revision 1.390
  retrieving revision 1.391
  diff -u -r1.390 -r1.391
  --- binindex.html 31 Dec 2003 14:42:25 -  1.390
  +++ binindex.html 2 Jan 2004 05:35:43 -   1.391
  @@ -238,6 +238,8 @@
   strongNote/strong only recent builds can be downloaded from this page.
   If you are looking for an older release please see a 
href=http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi#The%20Apache%20Archives;here/a.
   /p
  +pbNote:/b strongTo catch up 
with the major releases and important information from The Jakarta Project, we 
recommend you to a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]subscribe/a to mailing list for 
the a href=./mail2.html#AnnouncementAnnouncements/a. To keep informed about the 
news from Apache Software Foundation and its projects, please a href=mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]subscribe/a to a 
href=http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-announce;Apache 
Announcement List/a as well./strong
  +/p
   table border=0 
cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width=100%
 trtd bgcolor=#828DA6
   font color=#ff face=arial,helvetica,sanserif
  
  
  
  1.298 +2 -0  jakarta-site2/docs/site/sourceindex.html
  
  Index: sourceindex.html
  ===
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  retrieving revision 1.298
  diff -u -r1.297 -r1.298
  --- sourceindex.html  31 Dec 2003 14:42:26 -  1.297
  +++ sourceindex.html  2 Jan 2004 05:35:44 -   1.298
  @@ -239,6 +239,8 @@
   bNote:/b In order to build Tomcat, you'll need to download both the Tomcat
   workspace and Tools workspace into parallel directories.
   /p
  +pbNote:/b strongTo catch up 
with the major releases and important information from The Jakarta Project, we 
recommend you to a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]subscribe/a to mailing list for 
the a href=./mail2.html#AnnouncementAnnouncements/a. To keep informed about the 
news from Apache Software Foundation and its projects, please a href=mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]subscribe/a to a 
href=http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-announce;Apache 
Announcement List/a as well./strong
  +/p
   table border=0 
cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width=100%
 trtd bgcolor=#828DA6
   font color=#ff face=arial,helvetica,sanserif
  
  
  
  1.331 +3 -0  jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/binindex.xml
  
  Index: binindex.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/binindex.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.330
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  diff -u -r1.330 -r1.331
  --- binindex.xml  29 Dec 2003 04:32:37 -  1.330
  +++ binindex.xml  2 Jan 2004 05:35:44 -   1.331
  @@ -65,6 +65,9 @@
   If you are looking for an older release please see a 
href='http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi#The%20Apache%20Archives'here/a.
   /p
   
  +pbNote:/b strongTo catch up with the major releases and important 
information from The Jakarta Project, we recommend you to a href=mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]subscribe/a to mailing list for the a 
href=./mail2.html#AnnouncementAnnouncements/a. To keep informed about the news 
from Apache Software Foundation and its projects, please a href=mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]subscribe/a to a 
href=http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-announce;Apache 
Announcement List/a as well./strong
  +/p
  +
 subsection name=Release Builds
   
   h3Using a mirror/h3
  
  
  
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  Index: sourceindex.xml
  ===
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  diff -u -r1.224 -r1.225
  --- sourceindex.xml   29 Dec 2003 04:32:37 -  1.224
  +++ sourceindex.xml   2 Jan 2004 05:35:44 -   1.225
  @@ -66,6 +66,9 @@
   workspace and Tools workspace into parallel directories.
   /p
   
  +pbNote:/b strongTo catch up with the major releases and important 
information from The Jakarta Project, we recommend you to a href=mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]subscribe/a to mailing list for the a