On 27 Feb 2004, at 12:19, Marcus Sundman wrote:

Would it be possible to have symlinks like
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/news-latest.html
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/elsewhere-latest.html
that would point to the latest news?

we'd then risk people losing long term urls. probably getting apache to
do temporary redirects from those urls would be ok, though. of course,
i'd be interested to know what other people think on this before
actually doing anything about it...

Well, now one can't bookmark the news pages because the URLs change every once
in a while, so something should be done.

they only twice change twice a year but you're probably right about the principle. it'd never occurred to me (or - it seems - to the other folks who replied to the proposal thread) that people would want to bookmark the news page (rather than the index).


i found out recently that some people subscribe to the commit list for the site so they can keep up to date with the jakarta news. so maybe it's more popular (and therefore important) than we released.

i'd love to have an RSS news feed for jakarta. (this is yet another idea going on the growing list of really-cool–things-to-do-using–james-once-i-find-time.) anyone fancy volunteering to take this further?

Neither symlinks nor temporary redirects are very good solutions. I think
people most often want to see the latest news, e.g. a list of all news items
less than N days old. If all news are on pages categorized e.g. by month then
N will keep changing all the time (N=0 exactly when the month changes). Thus
almost no one would see news posted in the very end of the month.


I think the best solution would be to have one page with news <N days old, and
then have a completely separate news archive where news are categorized by
month/year/whatever. The former could have news from both Jakarta and
elsewhere on the same page, preventing people from having to check two URLs
when reading news. The latter could have different categories for Jakarta
news and other news.

that's probably true but it would require active maintenance to keep it up to date. so, probably some sort of consensus would be needed amongst those who'll be doing this extra work before going ahead.


maybe it'd be cool to have a complete latest-first index of all news stories in the news index page. that way, not only would it be a useful resource but also it'd be a fixed page for people to book mark.

opinions?

- robert

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