RE: [Watchdog] Dead?

2004-06-07 Thread Danny Angus





Noel,


But I don't think that we need a separate TLP for it.  I would leave
the project in the community that last hosted the now dormant project.

Good point, perhaps we just need to organise ourselves.
d.



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Re: [Watchdog] Dead?

2004-06-07 Thread Danny Angus




Geir wrote:

 Well, I'm a little leery about sending watchdog traffic (even if none)
 to general@ - all it takes is one guy getting interested :)

(My silence was due to temporary no-email-at-home, not indifference!)

I'd prefer to propose the following:

1/ that a PMC vote is taken *HERE* to decide if the community is happy to
see Watchdog downgraded to inactive

2/ If we get the expected Yes then we note the status on the website
(watchdog and jakarta-site)

3/ we then replace the dev list with an autoresponder to the effect that
this project is not under active development and the place for discussion
is the user list.

4/ Yoav and I subscribe to and monitor the users list, on behalf of the PMC

5/ if people turn up and look keen to re-activate the development we
reactivate the dev list and start voting for new commiters



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RE: [Watchdog] Dead?

2004-06-07 Thread Danny Angus




Noel wrote:
  We leave the resources in place, with a notice that the project is
 dormant.  If it is revitalized, great.  If not, what harm is there?

To me it seems like an opportunity for part of jakarta to fall out of PMC
oversight.
I'm not suggesting that there is any legal controversy looming, but suppose
there were, are we really confident that we would be aware of it?
To remedy that all we really need is to ensure that there are eyes on it,
and that if they go they ensure that someone else picks it up.


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Re: [Watchdog] Dead?

2004-06-07 Thread Danny Angus






 I don't think that working, used-by-users code is 'dead'.  There may
 not be an active community of developers, but if the code is done, it's
 done.

I agree. I think we should consider it as the caretakeing of the user
community of a stable product, and if it ever arises, the sponsors of a new
developers community.

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Re: [Watchdog] Dead?

2004-06-07 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Jun 7, 2004, at 5:05 AM, Danny Angus wrote:


Geir wrote:
Well, I'm a little leery about sending watchdog traffic (even if none)
to general@ - all it takes is one guy getting interested :)
(My silence was due to temporary no-email-at-home, not indifference!)
I'd prefer to propose the following:
1/ that a PMC vote is taken *HERE* to decide if the community is happy 
to
see Watchdog downgraded to inactive
That's fine, although I see no need to 'downgrade'.  I think that the 
PMC is aware, and Yoav and yourself have karma now.

As for the rest, do what you think is best.  You've got Karma.  If 
someone doesn't like, they'll squawk.  :)

geir
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