Re: Why wiki logs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- site-cvs@ might be better
Am Do, den 08.07.2004 schrieb Martin Cooper um 1:09: I think you are arguing against yourself here. ;-) If the people who can make changes should be the same people doing the monitoring, which seems to be what you are saying, then it makes perfect sense for general@ to review wiki changes, since anyone on that list can make changes to the wiki. Similarly, if site2 karma and site-cvs were tied (but see below), it would make sense for site-cvs folks to be reviewing site2 changes. But not everyone who can make changes does so. And not everyone who subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] interested in this particular type of messages. If that doesn't stop it would be a very good reason a) that non-wiki messages get visually lost and b) for many subscribers to unsubscribe - at least for me. Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why wiki logs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- site-cvs@ might be better
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Rainer Klute wrote: Am Do, den 08.07.2004 schrieb Martin Cooper um 1:09: I think you are arguing against yourself here. ;-) If the people who can make changes should be the same people doing the monitoring, which seems to be what you are saying, then it makes perfect sense for general@ to review wiki changes, since anyone on that list can make changes to the wiki. Similarly, if site2 karma and site-cvs were tied (but see below), it would make sense for site-cvs folks to be reviewing site2 changes. But not everyone who can make changes does so. And not everyone who subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] interested in this particular type of messages. If that doesn't stop it would be a very good reason a) that non-wiki messages get visually lost and b) for many subscribers to unsubscribe - at least for me. For me this issue comes down to the fact that we have a general list, not a general-dev and general-users list. I've not seen complaints on commons-dev about the wiki notifications. I'm not pushing for a dev and users list, just that you might want to ask yourself which you think the list is. Obviously [EMAIL PROTECTED] is really a community list, however usually at Apache this seems to mean the dev list not the users list. I'm +1 for the Wiki notifying here as the Jakarta web site seems an important facet of the Jakarta community, and the Wiki is merely an easily modifiable part of the web site. CVS commits for site2 should also be coming here. (Just a view...) Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaIssues
Date: 2004-07-08T09:26:49 Editor: 216.26.136.155 Wiki: Jakarta Wiki Page: JakartaIssues URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaIssues no comment Change Log: -- @@ -8,3 +8,4 @@ 6. Wiki vandalism. Are all our wiki's monitored by a mailing list? 7. List moderation coverage. 8. ASF Licence 2.0. Any major work left to do? + 9. Obtaining a site-wide licence for Clover. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaPMC
Date: 2004-07-08T09:55:24 Editor: 81.248.56.222 Wiki: Jakarta Wiki Page: JakartaPMC URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaPMC no comment Change Log: -- @@ -2,4 +2,4 @@ The role of the PMC is defined by the ASF By-Laws at section 6.3 - http://apache.org/foundation/bylaws.html -Each Project Management Committee shall be responsible for the active management of one or more projects identified by resolution of the Board of Directors which may include, without limitation, the creation or maintenance of open-source software for distribution to the public at no charge. Subject to the direction of the Board of Directors, the chairman of each Project Management Committee shall be primarily responsible for project(s) managed by such committee, and he or she shall establish rules and procedures for the day to day management of project(s) for which the committee is responsible. +Each Project Management Committee shall be responsible for the active management of one or more projects identified by resolution of the Board of Directors which may include, without limitation, the creation or maintenance of open-source software for distribution to the public at no charge. Subject to the direction of the Board of Directors, the chairman of each Project Management Committee shall be primarily responsible for project(s) managed by such committee, and he or she shall establish rules and procedures for the day to day management of project(s) for which the committe is responsible. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaPMC
Date: 2004-07-08T09:56:36 Editor: 81.248.56.222 Wiki: Jakarta Wiki Page: JakartaPMC URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaPMC no comment Change Log: -- @@ -2,4 +2,4 @@ The role of the PMC is defined by the ASF By-Laws at section 6.3 - http://apache.org/foundation/bylaws.html -Each Project Management Committee shall be responsible for the active management of one or more projects identified by resolution of the Board of Directors which may include, without limitation, the creation or maintenance of open-source software for distribution to the public at no charge. Subject to the direction of the Board of Directors, the chairman of each Project Management Committee shall be primarily responsible for project(s) managed by such committee, and he or she shall establish rules and procedures for the day to day management of project(s) for which the committe is responsible. +Each Project Management Committee shall be responsible for the active management of one or more projects identified by resolution of the Board of Directors which may include, without limitation, the creation or maintenance of open-source software for distribution to the public at no charge. Subject to the direction of the Board of Directors, the chairman of each Project Management Committee shall be primarily responsible for project(s) managed by such committee, and he or she shall establish rules and procedures for the day to day management of project(s) for which the committee is responsible. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaPMC
Hi, the following is a good example why I am against notifications to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Do, 2004-07-08 um 18.55 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Change Log: -- @@ -2,4 +2,4 @@ The role of the PMC is defined by the ASF By-Laws at section 6.3 - http://apache.org/foundation/bylaws.html -Each Project Management Committee shall be responsible for the active management of one or more projects identified by resolution of the Board of Directors which may include, without limitation, the creation or maintenance of open-source software for distribution to the public at no charge. Subject to the direction of the Board of Directors, the chairman of each Project Management Committee shall be primarily responsible for project(s) managed by such committee, and he or she shall establish rules and procedures for the day to day management of project(s) for which the committee is responsible. +Each Project Management Committee shall be responsible for the active management of one or more projects identified by resolution of the Board of Directors which may include, without limitation, the creation or maintenance of open-source software for distribution to the public at no charge. Subject to the direction of the Board of Directors, the chairman of each Project Management Committee shall be primarily responsible for project(s) managed by such committee, and he or she shall establish rules and procedures for the day to day management of project(s) for which the committe is responsible. Am I really supposed to wade through this and find out where the differences are? Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaPMC
It's an example of complaining at people for not doing comments (I fully admit I need to comment more myself). Took a while to notice that the one below is a spelling fix for committe. I wonder if we can configure wiki to make the comment mandatory :) Hen On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Rainer Klute wrote: Hi, the following is a good example why I am against notifications to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Do, 2004-07-08 um 18.55 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Change Log: -- @@ -2,4 +2,4 @@ The role of the PMC is defined by the ASF By-Laws at section 6.3 - http://apache.org/foundation/bylaws.html -Each Project Management Committee shall be responsible for the active management of one or more projects identified by resolution of the Board of Directors which may include, without limitation, the creation or maintenance of open-source software for distribution to the public at no charge. Subject to the direction of the Board of Directors, the chairman of each Project Management Committee shall be primarily responsible for project(s) managed by such committee, and he or she shall establish rules and procedures for the day to day management of project(s) for which the committee is responsible. +Each Project Management Committee shall be responsible for the active management of one or more projects identified by resolution of the Board of Directors which may include, without limitation, the creation or maintenance of open-source software for distribution to the public at no charge. Subject to the direction of the Board of Directors, the chairman of each Project Management Committee shall be primarily responsible for project(s) managed by such committee, and he or she shall establish rules and procedures for the day to day management of project(s) for which the committe is responsible. Am I really supposed to wade through this and find out where the differences are? Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaPMC
Henri Yandell wrote: I wonder if we can configure wiki to make the comment mandatory :) Doubt it would help much ... like many people, I often play the game of what's the minimum amount of stuff needed to pass the validation on this field?. Most commonly, a simple . will do the trick :-). Hen Craig - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why wiki logs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- site-cvs@ might be better
I should make it clear that while I'd like wiki/cvs to be coming to this list, I'm happy for the wiki/cvs to be going to the site-cvs mail list. I just need to make sure we note that somewhere. There's quite a lot of magic about the jakarta-level things (rather than the individual sub-projects) and I want to make it more obvious. Hen On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Henri Yandell wrote: On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Rainer Klute wrote: Am Do, den 08.07.2004 schrieb Martin Cooper um 1:09: I think you are arguing against yourself here. ;-) If the people who can make changes should be the same people doing the monitoring, which seems to be what you are saying, then it makes perfect sense for general@ to review wiki changes, since anyone on that list can make changes to the wiki. Similarly, if site2 karma and site-cvs were tied (but see below), it would make sense for site-cvs folks to be reviewing site2 changes. But not everyone who can make changes does so. And not everyone who subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] interested in this particular type of messages. If that doesn't stop it would be a very good reason a) that non-wiki messages get visually lost and b) for many subscribers to unsubscribe - at least for me. For me this issue comes down to the fact that we have a general list, not a general-dev and general-users list. I've not seen complaints on commons-dev about the wiki notifications. I'm not pushing for a dev and users list, just that you might want to ask yourself which you think the list is. Obviously [EMAIL PROTECTED] is really a community list, however usually at Apache this seems to mean the dev list not the users list. I'm +1 for the Wiki notifying here as the Jakarta web site seems an important facet of the Jakarta community, and the Wiki is merely an easily modifiable part of the web site. CVS commits for site2 should also be coming here. (Just a view...) Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaPMC
Am Do, 2004-07-08 um 19.33 schrieb Craig McClanahan: Henri Yandell wrote: I wonder if we can configure wiki to make the comment mandatory :) Doubt it would help much ... like many people, I often play the game of what's the minimum amount of stuff needed to pass the validation on this field?. Most commonly, a simple . will do the trick :-). Isn't is that wiki distinguishes between major and minor changes? It would be nice if notices would be sent only for major changes. Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Jakarta Commons Betwixt 0.5 Released
this is most definitely the wrong place to ask questions such as this. betwixt is a jakarta commons component and the right place to ask betwixt questions is on the jakarta commons user list. you'll also find that there are quite a few examples on the website. but in brief: betwixt marshalls java beans to xml documents and unmarshalls xml documents to java beans. it is dynamic as opposed to generative in it's approach. - robert On 7 Jul 2004, at 14:16, Sako! wrote: what is this dude? i read the about Betwixt, but still didnt understand what is it good for? give an example please. Sako. - Original Message - From: robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 1:31 PM Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Jakarta Commons Betwixt 0.5 Released The Jakarta Commons team is pleased to announce the release of Betwixt 0.5. Betwixt is a dynamic start-from-java xml-object mapper. For more details see http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/betwixt/. This release is intended to consolidate the codebase previously released as Betwixt-1.0-Alpha-1. It is recommended that those users who are currently using that release or later snapshots (of this codebase) upgrade to this version. Note that those users currently using a snapshot from the refactoring branch should wait until the 0.6 version is released. A new release and versioning strategy for Betwixt has been adopted. The version name 0.5 more accurately reflects the current state of the released codebase. It is stable but limited and important elements of the API are likely to change in the future. More frequent releases are now planning and a 0.6 release containing the improved bean reading design is planned for the near future. Download the binary distribution from: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi#commons-betwixt and the source distribution from: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/sourceindex.cgi#commons-betwixt Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apachenews.org
Hi, Well -- Now I am trying to gather the news items which would be related to the ASF activities -- at http://www.apachenews.org/ ... Since the middle of the March 2004. I found it that there are/were keen users of asf products who want to keep it in touch with the news of the asf activities. -- 0.1 million unique visitors and 0.2 million page views -- there. I think it that perhaps I can *donate* the gains (google.com! ^^;) to the fund-raising team @ apache.org. # very low estimated benefit, though -- 30 US$ per month, I think. I'd like to this BLOG to be soared up more official asf activities if allowed. -- this would be very similar to the activities of public relations, perhaps. Now, I do have that domain -- apachenews.org, but of course I can (and want to) donate it to the asf and willing to if there would be nice community which can accomodate such a news blog. -- Ahhh -- and I'd like to recruit the editor of this news blog. http://www.apachenews.org/ ( to be honest, I registered someone who would have come to be interested in such activities -- @ May 2004 ^^:) I thought it that perhaps this would be an alternative of the Apache Newsletter or something equivalent. Guys, are you INTERESTED? ahhh .. this is an unofficial activitiy, perhaps. guys, you can post news items to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I will update as soon as possible. Nice marketing tool, I can assure. :-) -- news items would be reflected to http://www.apachenews.org / as soon as possible. -- perhaps for job huntings to be enhanced in the near future. I want to be with you, genius developers. Thanks, Sincerely, - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International (Independent) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
