support for native java continuations

2004-07-15 Thread Torsten Curdt
We'd like to invite everyone who is interested
to join our initiative on codehaus.org. We are
aiming to write and submit a JSR for native java
continuations support inside the JVM.
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Re: support for native java continuations

2004-07-15 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Just curious:

Why is this not developed under the Apache Incubator? Is there a reason
for the codehaus move?

Regards
Henning


On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 10:42, Torsten Curdt wrote:
 We'd like to invite everyone who is interested
 to join our initiative on codehaus.org. We are
 aiming to write and submit a JSR for native java
 continuations support inside the JVM.
 
 We are currently looking for people that have
 any kind of expertise in the continuations field
 or just like to support the effort by any means.
 
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Re: support for native java continuations

2004-07-15 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
I am probably ignorant, but what are continuations?
Oliver
Torsten Curdt wrote:
We'd like to invite everyone who is interested
to join our initiative on codehaus.org. We are
aiming to write and submit a JSR for native java
continuations support inside the JVM.
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Re: support for native java continuations

2004-07-15 Thread Torsten Curdt
Just curious:
Why is this not developed under the Apache Incubator?
Is there a reason for the codehaus move?
We already have a first implementation
based on java byte code transformation
(via BCEL) in Cocoon. But this initiative
is aiming for a JSR that hopefully give us
native support - one day...
Actually there is no particular reason
for codehaus. They were just very quick
setting everything up :) Besides it's
only for collaboration on the JSR. So
there should be no code involved.
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Re: support for native java continuations

2004-07-15 Thread Torsten Curdt
I am probably ignorant, but what are continuations?
Hope these links help to get the picture...
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/flow/continuations.html
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/flow/
http://vafer.org/blog/tcurdt/archives/48.html
http://vafer.org/blog/tcurdt/archives/50.html
http://www.ai.mit.edu/~gregs/ll1-discuss-archive-html/msg00501.html
http://rifers.org/downloads/rife/rife_fosdem.pdf
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[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: TitleIndex

2004-07-15 Thread general
   Date: 2004-07-15T07:31:42
   Editor: 210.82.106.156 
   Wiki: Jakarta Wiki
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   URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/TitleIndex

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[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: TitleIndex

2004-07-15 Thread general
   Date: 2004-07-15T07:42:16
   Editor: 132.211.188.107 
   Wiki: Jakarta Wiki
   Page: TitleIndex
   URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/TitleIndex

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Re: download pages rethink

2004-07-15 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004, robert burrell donkin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i'm happy for discussion to continue on this list

I feel more comfortable to do so, but that may be a personal thing.
Discussions need to get the use of I to stick to a name and the Wiki
really doesn't make this easy.

I tend to disagree with your assertion that PGP signtures are less
important than MD5 signatures.  But then again, given how badly
connected the PGP keys used to sign most Jakarta releases are, you are
probably correct.  A signature by a key that hasn't been signed by
anybody else isn't much better than a MD5 hash.

BTW, I just now realized that we have a couple of releases that are
neither PGP signed nor accompanied by MD5 hashes, this should be
strongly discouraged IMHO.  In particular since Ant supports
generation of MD5 hashes since a few years now - and so does Maven.

Instead of shortening the section by moving PGP, I'd rather move the
whole section to the bottom of the page and just link it from the top
(see the Ant page for an example).

But this is hardly the only text at the top of the page that could
easily be moved in order to make the actual download links more
prominent.

Thge description of the various types of downloads we provide could
appear at the individual sections - so we don't talk about milestone
and test builds to people who are really just interested in the
latest thing.

We don't need to point to the news page/sites at all IMHO, that's
inside the navigation anyway.  And people who are interested in
announcements will find the mailing list page by following the link in
the navigation as well.

Finally I'd move the section about archived builds to the bottom as
well.  Thinking about it, I should probably mock up a design to show
what I mean, will do so next week unless I get shot down before 8-)

The tabular view you envision may really be more appropriate than the
long list we have right now.  I wouldn't link the project names to the
KEYS files, though, at least to me the connection wouldn't be obvious.

Stefan
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Survey: Motivation of Free/Open Source Software (F/OSS) Developers

2004-07-15 Thread Marc Röttig
Survey: Motivation of Free/Open Source Software (F/OSS) Developers
We (Marc Röttig and Carl-Daniel Hailfinger) are currently working
on a survey on the motivation of open source developers as part of
a Computer Science and Society project at the CS department of the
University of Tübingen. We invite every developer in the Free / Open
Source Software community to help us with our survey by filling out
a little web form to give us some hints on possible motivation-motifs
of F/OSS-developers.
You can find the survey-form at
http://foss.ta-altensteig.de/
Privacy statement:
We do not want to collect personal information about you without
your agreement. That's why we do not ask for your name and give
you the ability to leave personal information unspecified (age
and profession). We (the authors) will not make the raw survey
data available to anyone except members of our faculty for
verification of proper scientific procedures in extracting the
results.
Thank you in advance for your support. You can reach our CS faculty at
   http://www.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/

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