Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 29 Dec 2004, at 20:44, Henri Yandell wrote: snip 4) Various parts of Resources struck out. I think this was all covered in previous emails. I think www.apache.org covers these issues now and we don't have to. FWIW some of the content (and the stuff you moved) is covered. unfortunately,

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 29 Dec 2004, at 16:10, Henri Yandell wrote: I'm a fan of the www.apache.org look and how it gives us a lot more usability in terms of available column space. I'd like to change Jakarta to the 3-columns (though not the lf or anything). Switching to 3-columns means less space in the center for

Re: Dormancy worries

2005-01-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 27 Dec 2004, at 11:35, Torsten Curdt wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: snip There has been some suggestion that they be cleaned up by migrating them to some other domain to be mothballed. The code, web site, and mailing list archives would be preserved, and could be restored at such time in the

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 29 Dec 2004, at 16:10, Henri Yandell wrote: I'm a fan of the www.apache.org look and how it gives us a lot more usability in terms of available column space. I'd like to change Jakarta to the 3-columns (though not the lf or anything).

Re: Cleaning up Site2

2005-01-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 28 Dec 2004, at 20:15, Martin Cooper wrote: On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:35:08 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip 6) Less contraversial (as no mention of Jon or idiots): Kill vendors page? How about legal and acknowledgements? Should these be under the ASF umbrella level now

Re: Dormancy worries

2005-01-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 27 Dec 2004, at 11:35, Torsten Curdt wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: snip There has been some suggestion that they be cleaned up by migrating them to some other domain to be mothballed. The code, web site, and mailing list archives would be

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 29 Dec 2004, at 20:44, Henri Yandell wrote: snip 4) Various parts of Resources struck out. I think this was all covered in previous emails. I think www.apache.org covers these issues now and we don't have to. FWIW some of the content (and the

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1 Jan 2005, at 11:45, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 29 Dec 2004, at 16:10, Henri Yandell wrote: I'm a fan of the www.apache.org look and how it gives us a lot more usability in terms of available column space. I'd like to change Jakarta to the

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1 Jan 2005, at 11:54, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 29 Dec 2004, at 20:44, Henri Yandell wrote: snip 4) Various parts of Resources struck out. I think this was all covered in previous emails. I think www.apache.org covers these issues now and we

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 1 Jan 2005, at 11:45, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 29 Dec 2004, at 16:10, Henri Yandell wrote: I'm a fan of the www.apache.org look and how it gives us a lot more usability in terms of available

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 1 Jan 2005, at 11:54, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 29 Dec 2004, at 20:44, Henri Yandell wrote: snip 4) Various parts of Resources struck out. I think this was all covered in previous emails. I think

Re: Dormancy worries

2005-01-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1 Jan 2005, at 11:52, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 27 Dec 2004, at 11:35, Torsten Curdt wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: snip There has been some suggestion that they be cleaned up by migrating them to some other domain to be mothballed. The code, web

Re: Mess in jakarta.apache.org/

2005-01-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
i wonder whether a long term home for these could be found in archive.apache.org... - robert On 30 Dec 2004, at 23:08, Henri Yandell wrote: The following have all been moved from the jakarta site to ~bayard/jakarta-site-deletions/ bcel.orgjjar buildsite.sh

Re: Mess in jakarta.apache.org/

2005-01-01 Thread Henri Yandell
Hope not. They're generally all examples of people having something cp'd briefly etc and not cleaning. jjar/ and cjan/ are possibly archivable. Hen On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: i wonder whether a long term home for these could be found in archive.apache.org... - robert On

Re: Dormancy worries

2005-01-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 1 Jan 2005, at 11:52, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 27 Dec 2004, at 11:35, Torsten Curdt wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: snip There has been some suggestion that they be cleaned up by migrating them to

Re: Jakarta download pages Was: download pages in j.a.o.

2005-01-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 28 Dec 2004, at 20:43, Martin Cooper wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:27:51 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It has problems. Mainly in that it doesn't really provide much a context sensitive message. It should be mentioning signatures, keys, md5s etc. It also loses the

Deletion suggesiton

2005-01-01 Thread Henri Yandell
Another suggestion for content deletion: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/pmc/ Any reason to keep this, any ideas for better places to keep this? Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

RE: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Acknowledgements (Definitely ASF now, no-one supports 'jakarta' as such afaik) Turn over all of this to the PRC, and let them handle it on an ASF-wide basis. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread Noel J. Bergman
unfortunately, there's still a lot that's not and already quite a bit of information has been lost when the old wiki was removed. As noted by Henri, the old Wiki was moved, not removed. --- Noel - To unsubscribe,

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1 Jan 2005, at 15:36, Noel J. Bergman wrote: unfortunately, there's still a lot that's not and already quite a bit of information has been lost when the old wiki was removed. As noted by Henri, the old Wiki was moved, not removed. good. effectively is still lost as far as links are concerned

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1 Jan 2005, at 12:31, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 1 Jan 2005, at 11:54, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 29 Dec 2004, at 20:44, Henri Yandell wrote: snip 4) Various parts of Resources struck out. I think this

Re: Deletion suggesiton

2005-01-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1 Jan 2005, at 14:59, Henri Yandell wrote: Another suggestion for content deletion: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/pmc/ Any reason to keep this, any ideas for better places to keep this? this is definitely of historic value. (there are a number of other bits and pieces of history on the

Re: Mess in jakarta.apache.org/

2005-01-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
not sure what jakarta-gnats is but it rings a bell from the days when i converted all those releases to the mirrors. may be some reason i didn't delete it then (or none at all). i've googled and it's possible that it's a pre-bugzilla bug tracker (in which can it could easily be deleted) but

Re: Dormancy worries

2005-01-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1 Jan 2005, at 12:58, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 1 Jan 2005, at 11:52, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: snip So how should we do it under the assumption that everyone doesn't up for TLP? Do we add a jakarta-user

RE: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread Noel J. Bergman
robert burrell donkin wrote: unfortunately, there's still a lot that's not and already quite a bit of information has been lost when the old wiki was removed. As noted by Henri, the old Wiki was moved, not removed. effectively is still lost as far as links are concerned Well, if people

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1 Jan 2005, at 15:36, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Acknowledgements (Definitely ASF now, no-one supports 'jakarta' as such afaik) Turn over all of this to the PRC, and let them handle it on an ASF-wide basis. cool. what's the right to set about doing this? - robert

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread sebb
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:01:27 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's my mockup proposal: http://www.apache.org/~bayard/mock-jakarta-frontpage.html Changes: 3 column Strikethrough of links/pages I'd like to kill. Less news. Removal of Related section (aim

RE: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread Noel J. Bergman
robert burrell donkin asked: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Acknowledgements (Definitely ASF now, no-one supports 'jakarta' as such afaik) Turn over all of this to the PRC, and let them handle it on an ASF-wide basis. cool. what's the right to set about doing this? Send e-mail to [EMAIL

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1 Jan 2005, at 18:55, Noel J. Bergman wrote: robert burrell donkin asked: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Acknowledgements (Definitely ASF now, no-one supports 'jakarta' as such afaik) Turn over all of this to the PRC, and let them handle it on an ASF-wide basis. cool. what's the right to set about

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, sebb wrote: On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:01:27 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The aim would also be to switch entirely over to the XSL build version which seems to work fine and dump Anakia creation. Have you tried the XSL version of the binary and source pages?

RE: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2005-01-01 Thread Tom Evans
snip Vendor Support (List of 13 companies - surprised no one is against this removal) Hen - There's a time for everything, I suppose. Speaking as one of the companies listed, we are quite pleased to be identified in a small way as part of the Jakarta community. However, I also understand

question about use of jakarta project icons on other sites...

2005-01-01 Thread Pete Eakle
if my website contains a reference (link) to a Jakarta project, for example Ant or Tomcat, and I want the user to be able to click that reference and have that take them to the project's home page, would it be ok for me to display the icon for that project on my site and make that the clickable

Re: question about use of jakarta project icons on other sites...

2005-01-01 Thread Henri Yandell
I'll find out. Hen On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, Pete Eakle wrote: if my website contains a reference (link) to a Jakarta project, for example Ant or Tomcat, and I want the user to be able to click that reference and have that take them to the project's home page, would it be ok for me to display the icon

[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: SiteInfo

2005-01-01 Thread general
Date: 2005-01-01T16:05:44 Editor: HenriYandell Wiki: Jakarta Wiki Page: SiteInfo URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/SiteInfo no comment Change Log: -- @@ -1,13 +1,13 @@ = Plan for the future of the

[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: SiteInfo

2005-01-01 Thread general
Date: 2005-01-01T16:33:10 Editor: HenriYandell Wiki: Jakarta Wiki Page: SiteInfo URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/SiteInfo no comment Change Log: -- @@ -3,6 +3,7 @@ 0. 2005 copyright update. -

jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-01 Thread Henri Yandell
I've fixed the various spacing issues in the XSLT system (over time the Anakia style sheet changed slightly) and as far as I can tell it looks the same. I cautiously pushed a few pages up to check them out and then the whole lot. Still looks fine to me :) At least from the front page and

[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: SiteInfo

2005-01-01 Thread general
Date: 2005-01-01T17:04:29 Editor: HenriYandell Wiki: Jakarta Wiki Page: SiteInfo URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/SiteInfo XSLT done, *cheer*. Change Log: -- @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ 0. 2005 copyright

[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: SiteInfo

2005-01-01 Thread general
Date: 2005-01-01T17:06:14 Editor: HenriYandell Wiki: Jakarta Wiki Page: SiteInfo URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/SiteInfo More tasks. Change Log: -- @@ -4,11 +4,13 @@ 0. Cleanup of dead parts of

[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: SiteInfo

2005-01-01 Thread general
Date: 2005-01-01T19:03:10 Editor: HenriYandell Wiki: Jakarta Wiki Page: SiteInfo URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/SiteInfo no comment Change Log: -- @@ -3,7 +3,7 @@ 0. 2005 copyright update. -

[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: SiteInfo

2005-01-01 Thread general
Date: 2005-01-01T19:11:41 Editor: HenriYandell Wiki: Jakarta Wiki Page: SiteInfo URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/SiteInfo no comment Change Log: -- @@ -3,7 +3,7 @@ 0. 2005 copyright update. -

[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: SiteInfo

2005-01-01 Thread general
Date: 2005-01-01T19:15:23 Editor: HenriYandell Wiki: Jakarta Wiki Page: SiteInfo URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/SiteInfo no comment Change Log: -- @@ -5,6 +5,7 @@ 1. Removal of Anakia build and

Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-01 Thread sebb
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 19:50:10 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've fixed the various spacing issues in the XSLT system (over time the Anakia style sheet changed slightly) and as far as I can tell it looks the same. BTW, the source files don't look the same - but that is an

Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote: On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 19:50:10 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've fixed the various spacing issues in the XSLT system (over time the Anakia style sheet changed slightly) and as far as I can tell it looks the same. BTW, the source files don't look

Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote: However, the base tags have disappeared from the binindex and sourceindex output. I don't know if these are required or not - could it be that some mirror sites require them? They're back now. Hen

Re: Jakarta-site2 - orphaned files in docs

2005-01-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004, sebb wrote: Just happened to notice that some of the HTML files in the docs tree don't have corresponding XML files in the xdocs tree. For example docs/site/cvsonunix.html docs/site/elsewhere.html both of these correspond to deleted xml files in xdocs/site Seems to me that

[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: SiteInfo

2005-01-01 Thread general
Date: 2005-01-01T21:00:04 Editor: HenriYandell Wiki: Jakarta Wiki Page: SiteInfo URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/SiteInfo no comment Change Log: -- @@ -6,6 +6,8 @@ 1. Move site/news.* to

[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: SiteInfo

2005-01-01 Thread general
Date: 2005-01-01T21:33:41 Editor: HenriYandell Wiki: Jakarta Wiki Page: SiteInfo URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/SiteInfo More tasks. Change Log: -- @@ -12,6 +12,18 @@ a. Switch to three-column