[site] build.xml includes force=true

2005-03-24 Thread sebb
build.xml was updated in r128387 to add force=true to all the transformations.

Is this needed?
[The log does not say why it was added].

It causes files to be always out of date with respect to the SVN copies.

Seems to me it should either be removed - or at least be made a property?

S.

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Re: [site] build.xml includes force=true

2005-03-24 Thread Henri Yandell
Sorry, meant to replyt on this stuff last night but it turned into a 
mildly late one at work, followed by the usual household chores.

I think the problem was that it was not noticing when the navigation was 
being changed, so somebody added a force.

Although it causes it to build everything, SVN's seems to handle it and 
notices the 1 or 2 files that have actually changed. Under 1.5 it builds 
so quickly (10-ish seconds on my P3 1Ghz) that it's not seemed a big deal.

Hen
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, sebb wrote:
build.xml was updated in r128387 to add force=true to all the transformations.
Is this needed?
[The log does not say why it was added].
It causes files to be always out of date with respect to the SVN copies.
Seems to me it should either be removed - or at least be made a property?
S.
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Re: [site] build.xml includes force=true

2005-03-24 Thread sebb
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:06:33 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
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 Sorry, meant to replyt on this stuff last night but it turned into a
 mildly late one at work, followed by the usual household chores.

No problem.
 
 I think the problem was that it was not noticing when the navigation was
 being changed, so somebody added a force.

OK, I see.
 
 Although it causes it to build everything, SVN's seems to handle it and
 notices the 1 or 2 files that have actually changed. Under 1.5 it builds
 so quickly (10-ish seconds on my P3 1Ghz) that it's not seemed a big deal.

Yes, it builds quickly enough. 

I must admit I did not dare try committing all the files to SVN, as I
did not want to generate huge diff listings...

Ideally the files would not be recreated, as there must be quite a bit
of overhead in sending the files back to SVN for it to ignore them,
but unless the overlooked dependency can be fixed, I guess it all
needs to be rebuilt.


 Hen
 
 On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, sebb wrote:
 
  build.xml was updated in r128387 to add force=true to all the 
  transformations.
 
  Is this needed?
  [The log does not say why it was added].
 
  It causes files to be always out of date with respect to the SVN copies.
 
  Seems to me it should either be removed - or at least be made a property?
 
  S.
 
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Re: [site] build.xml includes force=true

2005-03-24 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:19:49 +, sebb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:06:33 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Sorry, meant to replyt on this stuff last night but it turned into a
  mildly late one at work, followed by the usual household chores.
 
 No problem.
 
  I think the problem was that it was not noticing when the navigation was
  being changed, so somebody added a force.
 
 OK, I see.
 
  Although it causes it to build everything, SVN's seems to handle it and
  notices the 1 or 2 files that have actually changed. Under 1.5 it builds
  so quickly (10-ish seconds on my P3 1Ghz) that it's not seemed a big deal.
 
 Yes, it builds quickly enough.
 
 I must admit I did not dare try committing all the files to SVN, as I
 did not want to generate huge diff listings...
 
 Ideally the files would not be recreated, as there must be quite a bit
 of overhead in sending the files back to SVN for it to ignore them,
 but unless the overlooked dependency can be fixed, I guess it all
 needs to be rebuilt.

Actually, I would not expect those files to be sent to the SVN server
at all, since diff is a local operation. (One of the big advantages of
SVN. ;)

--
Martin Cooper


  Hen
 
  On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, sebb wrote:
 
   build.xml was updated in r128387 to add force=true to all the 
   transformations.
  
   Is this needed?
   [The log does not say why it was added].
  
   It causes files to be always out of date with respect to the SVN copies.
  
   Seems to me it should either be removed - or at least be made a property?
  
   S.
  
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Re: [site] build.xml includes force=true

2005-03-24 Thread Henri Yandell

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, sebb wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:06:33 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, meant to replyt on this stuff last night but it turned into a
mildly late one at work, followed by the usual household chores.
No problem.
I think the problem was that it was not noticing when the navigation was
being changed, so somebody added a force.
OK, I see.
Although it causes it to build everything, SVN's seems to handle it and
notices the 1 or 2 files that have actually changed. Under 1.5 it builds
so quickly (10-ish seconds on my P3 1Ghz) that it's not seemed a big deal.
Yes, it builds quickly enough.
I must admit I did not dare try committing all the files to SVN, as I
did not want to generate huge diff listings...
Do an svn status. I think you'll find you've changed a lot less files 
(from SVN's point of view) than you think, unless you're using JDK 1.4 
(where it's a lot slower) or we're getting an odd linux vs mac vs windows 
encoding issue.

Hen
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locale issue in Wiki FrontPage

2005-03-24 Thread Shinobu Kawai
Hi,

I've noticed that the Wiki page is under construction.  New version of
MoinMoin, maybe?  :)

Anyways, currently there's a locale problem.  I use my PC mainly with
the Japanese locale, causing every FrontPage without specifying the
wiki name to display the default MoinMoin FrontPage in Japanese.

eg. http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-velocity/
I'd like to see the contents of
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-velocity/FrontPage when I do this.  (I
do if I change my PC's locale to US.)

Best regards,
-- Shinobu

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Needing Help for running tomcat after build...

2005-03-24 Thread Tamer Higazi
Hallo, 
I have downloaded ANT, Apache Tomcat. I installed ANT with all
dependencies on my server (with all variables under the linux shell to
set) and build the Tomcat Server by running ant in the source root
directory (where also the build.xml file is located). After the
installation script downloaded from the net several packages I don't
know how to go on from this point. 

How do I start the tomcat apache server? 

For any Help 


Thank you


Tamer Higazi


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Re: Needing Help for running tomcat after build...

2005-03-24 Thread Mladen Turk
Tamer Higazi wrote:
Hallo, 
I have downloaded ANT, Apache Tomcat.
How do I start the tomcat apache server? 

Those type of questions should be asked on
the 'Tomcat User List'.
See:
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#Tomcat
How to subscribe.
Regards,
Mladen.
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