This is amazing. I agree with Craig on something almost completely.
Craig McClanahan wrote:
On 5/30/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5/30/07, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5/26/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ack in terms of driving a community away because
This is amazing. I agree with Craig on something almost completely.
Craig McClanahan wrote:
On 5/30/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5/30/07, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5/26/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ack in terms of driving a community away because
-1 to Commons being Jakarta. Commons should be commons, have its own
PMC/domain. It already has its own brand recognition. I had an
interesting conversation with a large financial customer about it just
before I left JBoss. They weren't clearly even aware that commons was
part of Jakarta.
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Yeah, well I consider voting on something that doesn't exist yet to be
absurd. So there we are.
This whole thread is absurd. There is no technical issue here.
cvs tag FOOBAR_1_0_RC1
ant
scp...
...crickets...
cvs TAG FOOBAR_1_0
ssh...
mv FOOBAR_1.0-RC1... FOOBAR_1.0-final...
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most of the dead are not coming back. The site, the project and
everything else should reflect this.
I suggest that:
1. ECS
2. ORO
3. Regexp
4. Alexandria (already does basically)
all have a page that looks like this
Whoa...my uncle is back from the dead.
-Andy
Michael Oliver wrote:
We aren't related, but I agree with Andy.
Michael Oliver
-Original Message-
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 3:17 PM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL
no. don't see it in spam folder either...
Martin van den Bemt wrote:
You received Joes mail ?
Mvgr,
Martin
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robert burrell donkin wrote
Ummwhy not out of Gump?
Phil Steitz wrote:
Henri Yandell wrote:
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Hi,
Does anyone (Henry?) know what happened to
http://www.apache.org/dev/nightly-builds.html ?
It's referenced from
http://www.apache.org/dev/
at the very bottom
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On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 16:44 -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
IIRC, this is my 4th attempt to resolve this (I try like every 3-4
months). I would
IIRC, this is my 4th attempt to resolve this (I try like every 3-4
months). I would like to commit something. My SVN account is not
working. per the instructions off the SVN page I emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got
no response. I am still able to log in to people.apache.org.
Suggestions
, PLLEEAASS let's press the PAUSE button
until January 3rd so that we can all get very drunk and open presents
rather than jerk each other's chains in front of a computer on a mailing
list.
-Andy
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Right now I'm going to help my 2 year old draw dinosaurs with his
Hanukkah present (he is obsessed with dinosaurs).
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I feel a bit attacked for no reason really (regarding the barbs thrown
in my direction). It has been some time since I have not been rather
civil on this list and I would expect the return courtesy. I've always
tried to make a good faith effort with regards to POI. I have never
supported
Hey I have an idea! If it doesn't pass this time we can call another
vote right before the next holiday and hope that none of the POI PMC
members are around... Then 3 months later do it again.
-1 (because my votes don't seem to be counted and Henri will make up
backstory for me)
Henri
The alias is immaterial to me
-Andy
Roland Weber wrote:
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
[...]
I would like to see a formats.apache.org project which was devoted to
Java/Ruby/C# APIs for office software file formats and more.
That's a very unspecific name. formats can mean anything, from
.
+1
I'd like to see a TLP. Or baring that an exit.
WILL
On 12/15/06, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey I have an idea! If it doesn't pass this time we can call another
vote right before the next holiday and hope that none of the POI PMC
members are around... Then 3 months later
Why not just move all of the content of all of these pages to the
wiki and
change the links.
Or better still have a section of wiki links in the right hand nav for
them.
Linking to pages in the wiki is bad, I think. When a page in a wiki
has reached a point of wanting to be individually
-1 (just like I was -1 to the SVN one)
-Andy
Henri Yandell wrote:
I've moved Jelly, Velocity, Velocity-Tools, Turbine and HTTPComponents
to use the Jakarta permissions - which provides various permissions to
the jakarta-developers group.
Said group is formed from the members of the
Actually -0 for this. POI is on bugzilla. I still don't like
commonsificaiton on Jakarta but won't be a
prick about this one.
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
-1 (just like I was -1 to the SVN one)
-Andy
Henri Yandell wrote:
I've moved Jelly, Velocity, Velocity-Tools, Turbine and HTTPComponents
the reasons stated previously that I still
feel are not addressed.
-Andy
Martin Cooper wrote:
On 4/25/06, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd be against another commons style sub-community. Unless you can show
me
a defined scope, web components means nothing, then expect my objection
BTW, while I simply don't care on this particular issue. I object to
the bizarre form of this vote by procedure as a
matter of practice. On these issues:
1. If you don't get any response from the dev list of that project
coming to the PMC with a vote seems to be
call votes until I get the
Why? Do you need something to do? I have many unworked open source
tasks that I could pass on. I'm happy to help you along on them.
Seriously.
Henri Yandell wrote:
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Torsten Curdt wrote:
However Jakarta-sandbox is
SCOPELESS. Go have a scopeless sandbox on
So basically if I call my project a component I don't have to go
through the incubator just YOUR
incubator.
Nope, poor explanation on my part. Code created within the Apache
community does not have to go through the incubator at all. The only bit
component refers to is related to Martin's
Based on that what WOULD BE out of scope of today's commons or this
MEGA-sandbox or this JCL or whatever?
robert burrell donkin wrote:
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 10:20 -0400, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
snip
Totally NOT how the incubator was described to me. As I understand it
if Tomcat
on sourceforge IMO. If you want
to start a whole NEW project then do that in the incubator IMO.
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
projects coming into the ASF go through the Incubator. New things
started entirely within the ASF do not, currently
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My mailserver kicked a disk so I missed the second vote (though as a
point of procedure I didn't qualify my first vote ;-) ). I'd like to
register my -0. (Its a -1 this sucks but I've decided not to be a
butt about it)
And -1 in advance to the lets all have one mega list because we don't
-1. I prefer the POI SVN to remain seperate.
Henri Yandell wrote:
Vote to remove the SVN barriers within Jakarta such that all jakarta-*
groups are merged into the one jakarta group with the exception of
jakarta-hivemind, jakarta-slide, jakarta-cactus and jakarta-jmeter under
the
were/are released publically w/o restriction, we've
never used the word sign without sign or been bound by as
employer/member agreements can be binding w/o you signing it)
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Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
-1. I prefer the POI SVN to remain seperate.
Henri Yandell wrote:
Vote to remove the SVN
joke
Hey then there could be a [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ALL commons
projects across the ASF could be developed on it! I might even
subscribe several times in order to load test my mail server ;-)
/joke
-Andy
Henri Yandell wrote:
Now Martin's answer becomes very apt - something to sell across
I get spam from myself all the time. Guess its karma for proposing
this: (http://sourceforge.net/projects/superxmailer/) as an Apache
project one April 1st.
-Andy
Karthik Kumar wrote:
Hi...
I'm extremely sorry for this... Someone was spamming :(
Karthik
On 3/19/06, Jörg Schaible [EMAIL
Ahh, you're American. You do realize Europeans take like 5 month vacations?
I don't care a whole lot so long as I'm exempted because I commit in
spurts like once every 2-3 years ;-)
-Andy
Henri Yandell wrote:
Previously I'd suggested that we should be cleaning up inactive
committers and
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Ahh, you're American. You do realize Europeans take like 5 month vacations?
Hum, 5 weeks in France
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Hey... I know what this could be called... Alexandria
Henri Yandell wrote:
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
Henri Yandell wrote:
A joke turns into something serious ...but I am all with you guys.
As I said: the more I think about it - the more I like the idea!
You've
I'd like to note my opposition. I don't have the same vision as you do
and do not wish to be distracted by 100 irrelavant emails a day about
Commons ABCD.
I'm glad Henri posted that reorganization things were being discussed.
I would have preferred that he posted a more detailed message as
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live together and die together.
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Personally I think that commons is a bit TOO open. I'm not sure the
Java world can suffer another project designed to throw us into
circular dependency hell. These little mini-component projects
Stephen Colebourne wrote:
Reposted (edited) from original commons proposal.
Currently this proposal has general, though not unanimous, support.
A vote thread may follow this thread if the mood remains positive.
...
Jakarta Language Components will:
- develop multiple independent components
devolve into flamebait because each
project feels very passionate about their approach (enough to devote real
time to developing it in fact) so asking them all in a room together what's
the difference is well...often not pretty.
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Everything is back on the private list again. Odd to discuss including more
people in the PMC while excluding them from the discussion.
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Dude...three words: switch to decaf ;-)
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of saying I told you so later. ;-)
Have fun. I'm mostly skimming now. Someone let me know if I miss anything
that actually requires my attention.
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On Dec 21, 2003, at 5:03 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
You go discus
YES! -- And members, and board, and incubator, and
Move it into the open.
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Well, saying please and asking nicely had no effect.
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it here. This is my personal choice. I choose to
work in the open. I choose to be googled. I volunteered for it in fact.
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Vic, if you've been paying ANY attention, you'd know that what we are
trying to do is just the opposite - get *every* committer in Jakarta
onto the PMC, *eliminating* this needless boundary.
While closing out everyone else. Like those who are not yet committers.
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Yep :) That's the interesting part here, and breaking the Jakarta up
doesn't solve it - it just pushes the problem upwards to the board.
+1
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The views expressed in this email are those of the author and are almost
for who to send and for how long under threat of being closed. This also
prevents PMC for life syndrome and makes sure that the PMC serves not only
the boards interests but the committers of the projects. It also puts
pressure on PMC members to keep discussions public.
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The views expressed in this email
This is FUD. No decisions are being made in private.
Isn't everything you disagree with?
You are making assertions that aren't correct to cast doubt on
something. That's commonly known as FUD.
I'm sorry, I hallucinated that we were having all of these discussions about
the future
I'm sorry, I hallucinated that we were having all of these discussions
about
the future of jakarta and how to best reorganize it on
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Remember what you said. You said that decisions were being made in
private.
Oh yes, I hallucinated the [VOTE] threads too. Damn those
The reason everything is quiet here is all decisions are being made on
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The views
On 12/5/03 2:45 AM, Martin Poeschl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
So far it sounds to me like JCS is only used by Turbine and that only the
Turbiners really care about it.
it is indirectly used by turbine ... that's why the discussion started ...
it is used by torque
certainly doesn't make me want to volunteer to understand the matter or work
towards its resolution.
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End of discussion.
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. Avalon has no stranglehold on frameworks.
If you agree with me then why is this so emotional to you? Nevermind, lets
end this, you get the last word. ;-)
-Andy
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Perhaps you missed that part of my message.
No - I didn't miss anything.
What you could do is try
note, what is the current status of HiveMind?
the site is
still blanked out in Commons. Could someone please update
general as to
the current situation re: HiveMind?
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
I don't think that Avalon has any right to have a stranglehold on all
service frameworks. I
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this is the best time/place. We have a very clear
objective, and its often easier to learn in a debugger with a big red bar of
a unit test result than staring at the code wondering what you should do.
Thanks,
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cc: general just in case any volunteers are interested.
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get off the ground.
- robert
On Monday, July 14, 2003, at 02:50 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
-1 this would exclude possible interested international folks. We should
keep the discussion on a list open to everyone!
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trying to do this on POI, we just have a shortage of people. We've
already got the source organization. Anyone who wants to help translate
will be given commit access pretty quickly.
Any ideas?
Regards
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far more issues that must be worked out and confusion between a potential
Apache project and an Apache project should be avoided.
I still feel a little bit like this should start on sourceforge, round out
the community issues, then move to incubator
Thoughts?
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
In summary the most serious issues to this proposal are:
1. diversity of committership. I'd personally like to see 51% of
the ACTIVE committership from a different company. So long as a
decision in one company can MAKE the vote, you
, July 03, 2003 11:01 AM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
So what in this ensures this will be a community-developed project
and not just an Apache branded extension of BEA? I really would like
to see you guys involved in Apache, but not in a way the compromises
Apache. There is a challenge
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2. Pick your project. I think it would have been a lot less
confusing to mail the proposal to Jakarta or XML. Personally, if
this is a Java only project, I think
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+1
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Did anything every happen on this? I remember ACO sending out a message,
but
I don't know if it
every made it to a vote. I'd really
was needed to instate
him (like tell him how to subscribe)
Now if he crowns himselfwe'll have to send troops and banish him to a
small islandor come at him with knifes...depends on what kind of emperor
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employ on the Jakarta
projects you support make the change. Thus tightening it from people who
support Jakarta projects to people who support Jakarta projects.
Thoughts/Objections?
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Unfortunately only someone who doesn't use Outlook can really sue M$. You
see the license agreement says you hold them harmless. Now a non-party to
the license agreement can obviously sue them (I think).
-Andy
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Ahh, so that a portion of the community is excluded from participating in
the conversation... Good move ;-)
Mr. Ed is deadtake that Ed, take that!
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recently ;-)
2. Java developers never read anything off of www.apache.org and
especially
not www.apache.org/dev
I'll have to send my Java Ring back to Sun, and resign from the Servlet Of
the Month club.
Perhaps you should. ;-)
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that Rob Oxspring is a documentation only contributor I heartily agree
with this nomination.
+1
+1
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