RE: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community email addresses

2003-06-27 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
Would it be possible to mangle/remove the e-mail addresses before publishing
the postings?
This would eventually fix the mirrors.

However, unless the mailing list software can also be persuaded to hide the
originators e-mail addresses (might be difficult?), it would not protect
against others who archive the raw content.

Might be worth trying a combination of approaches.

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-Original Message-
From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 June 2003 06:11
To: Jakarta General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community email addresses



On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:48:33 -0400 (EDT)
(Subject: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community email addresses)
Andrus Adamchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [PROPOSAL]
 
 There maybe other exlanations for these things, but still it would be wise
 to pull the archives out of the site. Of course there are people who would
 want to search them for information (since browseable Jakarta archives are
 well, should I say hard to use :-)), but those archives can be
 transferred to gmane.org or something...
 
 Thoughts? Anyone else got hit by that (I remember someone posting
 something similar long time ago).

-0.5:
Remain the archives on http://jakarta.apache.org/mail/
and do the robot.txt (or .htaccess) protect for the robot
search engines.
tar.gz archives are very useful for me.

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RE: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community email addresses

2003-06-27 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
 -Original Message-
 From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 27 June 2003 12:20
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Re: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community email 
 addresses
 
 
 
 On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:29:23 +0100
 (Subject: RE: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community 
 email addresses)
 BAZLEY, Sebastian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Would it be possible to mangle/remove the e-mail addresses 
 before publishing
  the postings?
  This would eventually fix the mirrors.
 
 Technically, it might be possible. However, mangling e-mail addresses
 would turn out that the 'mangled' mbox archives are meaningless, IMO.
 (we can not import the UNIX mbox style text with such mangled e-mail
 addresses to the mail clients)
 

Suerly as long as the mangled address had a valid format, e-mail clients
could still import them?

==

I believe that the top-level domain of .invalid has been reserved for just
such a purpose - one can generate e-mail addresses that parse correctly,
whilst guaranteeing that the address will never correspond to a valid mail
recipient. Otherwise, valid mangled addresses can turn out to exist...

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Whither Gump?

2003-10-08 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
Is Gump on holiday?

There don't seem to be any nightly builds since September 9th. The jar
directories seem to be up to date, but are not complete (e.g. JMeter is not
present).

[This is not a particular problem for me, but it would be useful if the
nightly builds could be made available again.]

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RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
 -Original Message-
 From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 October 2003 16:16
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
 
 
 
 Hi,
 
 
 I am now thinking of the *unified* skin (of Apache Forrest)
 for Jakarta SubProjects...
 
 Now, Jakarta-POI uses Apache Forrest for building the site.
 http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
 
 I think Jakarta-Tapestry will make use of it. too.
 
 (What about Struts?)
 
 --
 
 I prepared Jakarta-Skin which is similar to
 POI-skin (Look and feel: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)
 and I want to put it into jakarta-site2, so that other
 projects can re-use.
 
 Any thoughts?

JMeter needs to be able to build two versions of its documentation - one for
the web-site, and the other for use when running JMeter. This does not have
the left-hand navigation bar. JMeter uses some of the pages in its help
system, which is displayed using Java.

Would using Forrest cause problems with this?
Or perhaps it would make things easier?

At present, the XML is converted using Anakia, with separate VSL fiels for
the site and printable versions - there are some XSL stylesheets, but I
think these are rather out of date.

S.

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RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
 -Original Message-
 From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 October 2003 18:47
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
 
 
 
 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:19:13 +0100
 BAZLEY, Sebastian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Would using Forrest cause problems with this?
  Or perhaps it would make things easier?
 
 Forrest can create PDF file. I think it suffice the users' needs.

For some things, yes, but not for the interactive Help system.
Help uses Java to display an HTML document, and the application navigates to
the correct part of the appropriate file. We don't want to require the users
to install Acrobat.

Java is very finicky about what it will cope with ...

 
  At present, the XML is converted using Anakia, with 
 separate VSL fiels for
  the site and printable versions - there are some XSL 
 stylesheets, but I
  think these are rather out of date.
 
 It's related to the fact that you did not login to minotaur
 (www.apache.org) via ssh and have not done
 $ umask 0002
 $ chmod -R g+w /x1/www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter
 $ cd /www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/
 $ cvs update
 yet.
 

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean here.
The XSL stylesheets are part of JMeter, and are used to transform the XML
into HTML.
Changes have been made to the VSL (Anakia) stylesheets, but not the XSL
versions, so we cannot currently use XSL to generate either set of
documentation, as far as I know.

 --
 
 Anyway, I can forrest version of JMeter website, within a few days
 (Really easy).

Not sure we want to regenerate the whole site from CVS at present.

There have been a lot of updates to the user documentation, but the
corresponding version of the software has not been released. It would be
confusing if the online docs described a version that was not generally
available.

However, if you can publish a separate version that does not change the
existing site, that would be useful.

S.

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RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
 -Original Message-
 From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 October 2003 19:17
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
 
 
 
 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:02:52 +0100
 (Subject: RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project)
 BAZLEY, Sebastian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   It's related to the fact that you did not login to minotaur
   (www.apache.org) via ssh and have not done
   $ umask 0002
   $ chmod -R g+w /x1/www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter
   $ cd /www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/
   $ cvs update
   yet.
 
  Sorry, I don't understand what you mean here.
  The XSL stylesheets are part of JMeter, and are used to 
 transform the XML
  into HTML.
  Changes have been made to the VSL (Anakia) stylesheets, but 
 not the XSL
  versions, so we cannot currently use XSL to generate either set of
  documentation, as far as I know.
 
 Sorry, me too at a loss :-)
 
 Maybe you can find new xsl file via
 jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/site.xsl
 
 ... Just copy to jmeter module and cvs commit, I guess..

As far as I know, the JMeter stylesheets are unique to JMeter, so I doubt if
that would work.

S.

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RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-23 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
 -Original Message-
 From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 23 October 2003 02:24
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
 
 
 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:25:56 +0100
 BAZLEY, Sebastian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Maybe you can find new xsl file via
   jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/site.xsl
   
   ... Just copy to jmeter module and cvs commit, I guess..
  
  As far as I know, the JMeter stylesheets are unique to 
 JMeter, so I doubt if
  that would work.
 
 D'oh... Sorry. I had a little confused.
 
 Okeydokey. 
 
 What I proposed here, was not Please use Forrest, all the
 Jakarta-XX-Team, but Dear Jakarta-XX-Project, which
 want to use Apache Forrest 

OK, understood.

We might still be interested if it can cope with our requirements:
- separate docs for binary build (stylesheet probably won't do because of
Java HTML display)
- auto-generation of HTML anchors and contents list
- ability to have contents list in two columns
- automatic generation of links between pages based on previous and next
markers in XML

All of this is done by Anakia at the moment.

I'll try and take a look at Forrest to see what it can offer.

 
 I've heard that Struts Team once discusses about the usage of Forrest,
 so I said What about Struts?
 
 As for JMeter, I think now it is working well. 
 (Yes, I sent patches for the re-build of the site using Anakia, 
 the other day)

Thanks.

 Just I took a look at the current JMeter site and found that
 there's still Copyright 1999-2001 statement at the bottom
 of each pages. So, I told you the procedure of updating 
 website how-to.

The patches have been applied to CVS, but we have yet to update the
web-site.

This is partly lack of time, and partly that the documentation of JMeter has
been updated and no longer corresponds with the released version.

S.

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[wiki] Jakarta JMeter wiki - request

2004-03-04 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
We'd like move the JMeter Wiki to MoinMoin.

It should probably start at  
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-jmeter, but 
http://wiki.apache.org/jmeter would do just as well.

Commit messages should go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] initially.

Anything else you need to know?

S. (sebb AT A.O)
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From: Leo Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 February 2004 09:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [wiki] Jakarta wikis set up


Dear Jakarta PMC,

I have set up MoinMoin wikis for Jakarta at

http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-lucene
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-tomcat
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-tapestry

Please take a look at the README file in /www/wiki.apache.org on 
minotaur, http://wiki.apache.org/gump/HelpContents and 
http://moin.sf.net for more information about MoinMoin.

I have also attempted to migrate all content from the UseMod wiki 
installation to the appropriate places in the new MoinMoin wiki 
installation. Since the migration script is not perfect, some pages may 
be missing and/or looking awkward. You will need to fix these manually.

Specifically, page where copied over as follows:

*Jakarta*   -  /jakarta
*Lucene*-  /jakarta-lucene
*Tomcat*-  /jakarta/tomcat

this means that a lot of pages for jakarta subprojects have not been 
migrated to a new final location on the MoinMoin installation yet, and 
are hence located (immutable) at

http://wiki.apache.org/old/

We can set up more subwikis for the jakarta subprojects and migrate 
those pages, or we can copy those pages to the /jakarta subwiki. Just ask.

Note that cvs-style commit messages for changes made to the wiki will be 
sent to the appropriate mailing lists as has been requested (the 
moderator for those mailing lists will likely need to make some changes 
to allow these to go through).

Please contact us on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list if you 
have any questions (prefix the e-mail subject with '[wiki]').


best regards,


- Leo Simons



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