Re: [VOTE] Move Jakarta to the Attic; close down Jakarta PMC
cc+= {private, dev} for maximum coverage.
+1 from me.
-Rahul
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Henri Yandell bay...@apache.org wrote:
A joint vote to retire Jakarta into the Attic and to ask the board to
close down the PMC.
[ ] +1
[ ] -1, because
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[RESULT][VOTE] Apache JMeter TLP
Vote passes with 17 +1s and 1 +0. I will include the TLP resolution for the board's consideration at next Wednesday's meeting. Thanks all, -Rahul On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: [This vote is being held on dev@jakarta, please reply there. This message is being sent to multiple lists to make sure most at Jakarta are informed.] This is a vote for proposing an Apache JMeter TLP resolution to the board, with sebb nominated as the first Chair. The full text appears below [1] and is also on the wiki [2]. Vote will remain open for atleast 72 hours. 8 [ ] +1, its time for an Apache JMeter TLP [ ] +/- 0 [ ] -1, because ... 8 Cheers, -Rahul [1] Establish the Apache JMeter Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to a Java desktop application designed to load test functional behavior and measure performance, for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache JMeter Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache JMeter Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software that provides a Java desktop application designed to load test functional behavior and measure performance; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache JMeter be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache JMeter Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache JMeter Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache JMeter Project: * Sebastian Bazley (sebb AT a.o) * Milamber (milamber AT a.o) * Peter Lin (woolfel AT a.o) * Henri Yandell (bayard AT a.o) * Rahul Akolkar (rahul AT a.o) * Oleg Kalnichevski (olegk AT a.o) * Rainer Jung (rjung AT a.o) * Philippe Mouawad (pmouawad AT a.o) NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Sebastian Bazley be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache JMeter, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache JMeter PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache JMeter Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache JMeter Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Jakarta JMeter sub-project; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Jakarta JMeter sub-project encumbered upon the Apache Jakarta Project are hereafter discharged. [2] http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/TLPJMeter (version 7 of wiki page) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
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[VOTE] Apache JMeter TLP
[This vote is being held on dev@jakarta, please reply there. This message is being sent to multiple lists to make sure most at Jakarta are informed.] This is a vote for proposing an Apache JMeter TLP resolution to the board, with sebb nominated as the first Chair. The full text appears below [1] and is also on the wiki [2]. Vote will remain open for atleast 72 hours. 8 [ ] +1, its time for an Apache JMeter TLP [ ] +/- 0 [ ] -1, because ... 8 Cheers, -Rahul [1] Establish the Apache JMeter Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to a Java desktop application designed to load test functional behavior and measure performance, for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache JMeter Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache JMeter Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software that provides a Java desktop application designed to load test functional behavior and measure performance; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache JMeter be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache JMeter Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache JMeter Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache JMeter Project: * Sebastian Bazley (sebb AT a.o) * Milamber (milamber AT a.o) * Peter Lin (woolfel AT a.o) * Henri Yandell (bayard AT a.o) * Rahul Akolkar (rahul AT a.o) * Oleg Kalnichevski (olegk AT a.o) * Rainer Jung (rjung AT a.o) * Philippe Mouawad (pmouawad AT a.o) NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Sebastian Bazley be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache JMeter, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache JMeter PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache JMeter Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache JMeter Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Jakarta JMeter sub-project; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Jakarta JMeter sub-project encumbered upon the Apache Jakarta Project are hereafter discharged. [2] http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/TLPJMeter (version 7 of wiki page) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: JMeter TLP - draft resolution and first chair
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:31 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 September 2011 01:15, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Henri Yandell bay...@generationjava.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Henri Yandell bay...@generationjava.com wrote: Happy to be on the PMC :) I'm not sure I'll be that active, but hopefully can help with any setup items. +1 for Sebb as Chair. I've updated the resolution to reflect the nomination. If there are no further changes to the proposal in a couple of days, I'll start the TLP vote. We shouldn't vote until Sebb, or someone else, is signed up to be the chair. snip/ Thats reasonable too :-) Sebb? I would have preferred to see JMeter as part of HC, but perhaps it would be better as a TLP. snip/ IMO, yes. However I think we need some more PMC members first. snap/ I see you added olegk, which is goodness. We can always add others later. I think we're good for a vote on the resolution as is on the wiki. WDYT? -Rahul I can think of some Jakarta PMC members who have been involved with JMeter recently, and I think some of the Tomcat PMC use JMeter. Is it OK just to add them, or should they be asked first? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: JMeter TLP - draft resolution and first chair
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Henri Yandell bay...@generationjava.com wrote: Happy to be on the PMC :) I'm not sure I'll be that active, but hopefully can help with any setup items. +1 for Sebb as Chair. snip/ I've updated the resolution to reflect the nomination. If there are no further changes to the proposal in a couple of days, I'll start the TLP vote. -Rahul Hen On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: I've created a draft TLP resolution for JMeter here, intent being to submit in time for the October board meeting: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/TLPJMeter Folks on initial PMC include those who voted on latest release (some arbitrary metric to get started) plus those involved in recent discussions on topic, such as Hen and me. Please feel free to edit the above page directly to add/remove entries. Pending question - who to list as Chair? sebb - Given your sustained work on JMeter, I think you should do it. Its not much overhead, take the plunge, rest of us will write the reports if needed :-) -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: JMeter TLP - draft resolution and first chair
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Henri Yandell bay...@generationjava.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Henri Yandell bay...@generationjava.com wrote: Happy to be on the PMC :) I'm not sure I'll be that active, but hopefully can help with any setup items. +1 for Sebb as Chair. I've updated the resolution to reflect the nomination. If there are no further changes to the proposal in a couple of days, I'll start the TLP vote. We shouldn't vote until Sebb, or someone else, is signed up to be the chair. snip/ Thats reasonable too :-) Sebb? -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
[PROPOSAL] JMeter TLP (was: Activity of Jakarta subprojects)
[please include general@ on all replies] Thats reasonable, and I do think JMeter has enough going on to become a TLP. Not to get too far ahead, but initial PMC would include active devs ofcourse (sebb,milamber) and we should be able to round up enough others with interest (olegk,rahul,bayard and other probables). Comments? Lets say a week for comments before next step. -Rahul On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Oleg Kalnichevski ol...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 20:50 -0400, Rahul Akolkar wrote: On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski ol...@apache.org wrote: ... * JMeter: Lots of activity. New committer in 2010. This should go TLP. There are two obvious members of a JMeter PMC present (sebb and milamber). Reality is that Jakarta=JMeter now, so hopefully there are other interested parties who simply aren't active. Or perhaps join HttpComonents? I think the charter allows for this, and the main use of JMeter is for HTTP testing (though of course it encompasses many other protocols). The charter can be amended if needed. There is a lot of overlap between JMeter and HttpComponents. Cool, so next step -- either of you (sebb/olegk) want to check with the HttpComponents PMC if there is consensus on that? snip/ Don't see anything on above in hc archives, unless I missed it. Want me to broach the topic ;-? -Rahul Rahul Taking JMeter to HC should be the latest resort, only if JMeter is unable to gather enough support to become a TLP of its own. A possibility of JMeter going TLP should be discussed first, in my opinion. Oleg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [RESULT] Cactus to the Attic
+cc: private@ On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:47 AM, Henri Yandell bay...@apache.org wrote: 12 days seems like enough time. No one has spoken for Cactus, so the vote passes in favour of moving Cactus to the Attic. I suspect there's no one around to do the move, so I'll go ahead and inform the Attic PMC etc. snip/ Thanks Hen. -Rahul Hen On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Henri Yandell bay...@apache.org wrote: Proposing this as a challenge vote (i.e. if no one has a good -1 against something moving to the attic, it's a sign it should go to the attic). [ ] +1, G'night Cactus [ ] -1, No because: There's no activity in the project and I think it would be best to recognize the reality and call it a day. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Activity of Jakarta subprojects
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski ol...@apache.org wrote: ... * JMeter: Lots of activity. New committer in 2010. This should go TLP. There are two obvious members of a JMeter PMC present (sebb and milamber). Reality is that Jakarta=JMeter now, so hopefully there are other interested parties who simply aren't active. Or perhaps join HttpComonents? I think the charter allows for this, and the main use of JMeter is for HTTP testing (though of course it encompasses many other protocols). The charter can be amended if needed. There is a lot of overlap between JMeter and HttpComponents. Cool, so next step -- either of you (sebb/olegk) want to check with the HttpComponents PMC if there is consensus on that? snip/ Don't see anything on above in hc archives, unless I missed it. Want me to broach the topic ;-? -Rahul -Rahul Oleg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Activity of Jakarta subprojects
Forwarding below to dev@ and private@ for increased awareness. Replies to original thread on general@ please. -Rahul On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Henri Yandell he...@yandell.org wrote: Thought I'd summarize the current activity of the subprojects: * Cactus: No code commits since February 2009. Weak activity between 2006 and 2009. I think Cactus should head to the Attic. * BSF: Slow activity; only coder in last two years is Sebb. A difficult one to decide on. I think we should challenge on it going to the Attic, and if not send it to Commons where it will have more chance of activity. * JMeter: Lots of activity. New committer in 2010. This should go TLP. There are two obvious members of a JMeter PMC present (sebb and milamber). Reality is that Jakarta=JMeter now, so hopefully there are other interested parties who simply aren't active. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Ad BSF 2.x (Re: Activity of Jakarta subprojects
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Henri Yandell bay...@generationjava.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Rony G. Flatscher rony.flatsc...@wu-wien.ac.at wrote: On 23.07.2011 20:47, sebb wrote: * BSF: Slow activity; only coder in last two years is Sebb. A difficult one to decide on. I think we should challenge on it going to the Attic, and if not send it to Commons where it will have more chance of activity. Now that JSR-223 is part of Java 1.6 there is less need for BSF. There are no bugs oustanding against BSF 3.x. Not sure it is worth fixing any of the 2.x bugs. Please wait a little bit. It has been a long time intent to fix the few bugs in 2.x and add the enhancements in JIRA to it. Maybe also creating a JSR-223 bridge to allow BSF 2.x engines to be used in JSR-223 environments (not sure whether this is worthwhile, but it may be the case that there are 2.x engines for which no JSR-223 engines exist).(Just have not been able to push this more to the front of my table; have a 2.x engine in use that has the bugfixes incorporated and I would like to apply them to the official 2.x. Fair enough request. Still leaves the question of what to do with BSF. Do we: * Leave all of Jakarta open just for BSF. * Move BSF elsewhere. Where? Commons? * Move to the Attic. snip/ I don't think Jakarta should/will exist for much longer, so first bullet isn't an option. Or, put differently, if that is the preferred option, then we should rather get a BSF TLP. -Rahul --- How realistic are we talking on the changes? Your last BSF code commit was in 2007. I know I'm being pushy - but I also know how hard it is to say Game Over. If we move it to the Attic, it can always move out with the only pain being that you have to do the work locally at first, or fork into a Lab/Commons Sandbox/Incubator project. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Activity of Jakarta subprojects
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Henri Yandell he...@yandell.org wrote: Thought I'd summarize the current activity of the subprojects: snip/ Thanks for getting this thread going Hen, I had thoughts of starting a similar thread this weekend, given we're almost done with the BCEL and JCS moves. -Rahul * Cactus: No code commits since February 2009. Weak activity between 2006 and 2009. I think Cactus should head to the Attic. * BSF: Slow activity; only coder in last two years is Sebb. A difficult one to decide on. I think we should challenge on it going to the Attic, and if not send it to Commons where it will have more chance of activity. * JMeter: Lots of activity. New committer in 2010. This should go TLP. There are two obvious members of a JMeter PMC present (sebb and milamber). Reality is that Jakarta=JMeter now, so hopefully there are other interested parties who simply aren't active. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Activity of Jakarta subprojects
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski ol...@apache.org wrote: ... * JMeter: Lots of activity. New committer in 2010. This should go TLP. There are two obvious members of a JMeter PMC present (sebb and milamber). Reality is that Jakarta=JMeter now, so hopefully there are other interested parties who simply aren't active. Or perhaps join HttpComonents? I think the charter allows for this, and the main use of JMeter is for HTTP testing (though of course it encompasses many other protocols). The charter can be amended if needed. There is a lot of overlap between JMeter and HttpComponents. snip/ Cool, so next step -- either of you (sebb/olegk) want to check with the HttpComponents PMC if there is consensus on that? -Rahul Oleg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
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[NOTICE] BCEL and JCS SVN and site moves
Apache Commons have voted to accept BCEL and JCS. Accordingly, the SVN repositories and websites for the two projects will be moved shortly. I will reply this email when that is done. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
[RESULT][VOTE][LAZY] Move BCEL and JCS to Commons
Vote result: Jakarta has voted to move BCEL and JCS to Commons; there were no objections to the moves. dbrosius, asmuts, tv, seade - Please subscribe to dev@commons if you're not already on it. I will now start the acceptance vote over in Commons. -Rahul On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: After reasonable support to the idea on Jakarta and Commons lists, this is a vote to move BCEL and JCS to Apache Commons. As part of the move, I'll nominate any active committers for Commons karma (so far: dbrosius, asmuts, tv -- anyone else, please ping this thread). Since neither may have enough PMC members active, this vote will be held by lazy consensus. If you object to moving either/both, please also provide a reason and an alternative course of action. Vote runs for 72 hours. Vote is being held on general@jao but is being cross-posted to ensure we reach the full audience. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Move BCEL and JCS to Commons
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 7:09 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 June 2011 03:38, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: After reasonable support to the idea on Jakarta and Commons lists, this is a vote to move BCEL and JCS to Apache Commons. As part of the move, I'll nominate any active committers for Commons karma (so far: dbrosius, asmuts, tv -- anyone else, please ping this thread). Since neither may have enough PMC members active, this vote will be held by lazy consensus. If you object to moving either/both, please also provide a reason and an alternative course of action. Vote runs for 72 hours. Vote is being held on general@jao but is being cross-posted to ensure we reach the full audience. I've not looked at JCS; I've done a bit of tinkering on BCEL. +1 to moving them. But I hope the move won't *require* the package names to be changed to o.a.commons. Likewise Maven ids. If later on it proves necessary to make an incompatible API change, that would be the point to change package names. But I think users would be understandably upset if the package or Maven name was changed unnecessarily, and I will vote -1 against any such change. snip/ I agree. There is precedent for not changing package names when things move to Commons, so I think most also agree with your thinking above. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
[VOTE][LAZY] Move BCEL and JCS to Commons
After reasonable support to the idea on Jakarta and Commons lists, this is a vote to move BCEL and JCS to Apache Commons. As part of the move, I'll nominate any active committers for Commons karma (so far: dbrosius, asmuts, tv -- anyone else, please ping this thread). Since neither may have enough PMC members active, this vote will be held by lazy consensus. If you object to moving either/both, please also provide a reason and an alternative course of action. Vote runs for 72 hours. Vote is being held on general@jao but is being cross-posted to ensure we reach the full audience. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Move BCEL and JCS to Commons?
Related thread now initiated on dev@commons: http://commons.markmail.org/thread/akq47tuatib36yre -Rahul On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: One week later, we have 4 opinions in favor (and no other). I'll wait another week for comments before bringing this up on dev@commons. -Rahul On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: This initial email is cross-posted, but lets keep the thread on dev@jakarta. Jakarta is no longer a sustainable home for Java libraries like BCEL and JCS. Commons, OTOH, is widely suited to such components and has a much more active community. Therefore, I want us to explore the possibility of moving BCEL and JCS to Commons. Assuming there is interest in doing so here at Jakarta, I'll be happy to float the idea over on the Commons side. Comments? -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Move BCEL and JCS to Commons?
One week later, we have 4 opinions in favor (and no other). I'll wait another week for comments before bringing this up on dev@commons. -Rahul On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: This initial email is cross-posted, but lets keep the thread on dev@jakarta. Jakarta is no longer a sustainable home for Java libraries like BCEL and JCS. Commons, OTOH, is widely suited to such components and has a much more active community. Therefore, I want us to explore the possibility of moving BCEL and JCS to Commons. Assuming there is interest in doing so here at Jakarta, I'll be happy to float the idea over on the Commons side. Comments? -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Move BCEL and JCS to Commons?
This initial email is cross-posted, but lets keep the thread on dev@jakarta. Jakarta is no longer a sustainable home for Java libraries like BCEL and JCS. Commons, OTOH, is widely suited to such components and has a much more active community. Therefore, I want us to explore the possibility of moving BCEL and JCS to Commons. Assuming there is interest in doing so here at Jakarta, I'll be happy to float the idea over on the Commons side. Comments? -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Jakarta Regexp moving to the Attic
Attic folks - I'd like to inform the Attic PMC that the Jakarta PMC voted to move Jakarta Regexp to the Apache Attic: http://jakarta.apache.org/regexp/ I am hereby requesting the Attic PMC to take over ownership of Jakarta Regexp. I've opened ATTIC-117 (volunteers TBD). https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-117 Jakarta folks - We're looking for volunteer(s) to help with the associated tasks. Please post to the Attic general mailing list if you are interested in helping with the move. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Unable to download Snowball !
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Neil Ghosh neil.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Unable to download snowball analyzer I am trying to use snowball analyzer for my search engine but unable to download the library. snip/ http://lucene.apache.org/ -Rahul Please help -- Thanks and Regards Neil http://neilghosh.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Unable to download Snowball !
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Neil Ghosh neil.gh...@gmail.com wrote: I have already downloaded lucene but where is the snowball analyzer in that ? The one in contrib directory is throwing runtime exception snip/ http://lucene.apache.org/mail.html -Rahul On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Neil Ghosh neil.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Unable to download snowball analyzer I am trying to use snowball analyzer for my search engine but unable to download the library. snip/ http://lucene.apache.org/ -Rahul Please help -- Thanks and Regards Neil http://neilghosh.com -- Thanks and Regards Neil http://neilghosh.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
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[RESULT][VOTE][LAZY] Move Jakarta Regexp to Attic
Vote result: We will move Jakarta Regexp to the Apache Attic as there were no objections to the move. I'll inform the Attic in a day or two and include a call for volunteers to complete the associated tasks for the move. Thanks to everyone for their input. -Rahul On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: This is a vote to move Jakarta Regexp to the Apache Attic, based on the outcome of the most recent discussion on the topic. Since Regexp may not have enough PMC members active, this vote will be held by lazy consensus. If you object, please also provide a reasonable explanation. Vote runs for a week, ending no sooner than Mar 28th, ~8:00 pm Eastern US. Vote is being held on general@jao but is being cross-posted to ensure we reach the full audience. Please include general@jao on any replies. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
[VOTE][LAZY] Move Jakarta Regexp to Attic
This is a vote to move Jakarta Regexp to the Apache Attic, based on the outcome of the most recent discussion on the topic. Since Regexp may not have enough PMC members active, this vote will be held by lazy consensus. If you object, please also provide a reasonable explanation. Vote runs for a week, ending no sooner than Mar 28th, ~8:00 pm Eastern US. Vote is being held on general@jao but is being cross-posted to ensure we reach the full audience. Please include general@jao on any replies. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Regexp (was: Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic)
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Ian Darwin i...@darwinsys.com wrote: Six months have passed and there hasn't been much activity. Should we revisit this now? Someone recently offered to contribute some code on regexp-user@, but it didn't generate enough interest for anyone to reply. daniel No-one's even interested in replying to Daniel's mail :-) I guess that means it should go to the Attic. snip/ Barring strong objections at this time, I'll initiate the process in one week (as we did for ECS and ORO, starting with a lazy consensus vote). -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: January board report input needed
Last call :-) -Rahul On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Rahul Akolkar wrote: Please provide any input for our January board report by Friday, January 14th by editing the wiki. I've added the template for January to the wiki here: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-January2011 -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
January board report input needed
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Re: October board report input needed
Anything else? Report will be sent in 24+ hours. -Rahul On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: Please provide any input for our October board report by Friday, October 15th by editing the wiki. I've added the template for October to the wiki here: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-October2010 -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
October board report input needed
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Jakarta ECS and ORO moving to the Attic
Attic folks - I'd like to inform the Attic PMC that the Jakarta PMC voted to move the following projects to the Apache Attic: * Jakarta ECS: http://jakarta.apache.org/ecs/ * Jakarta ORO: http://jakarta.apache.org/oro/ I am hereby requesting the Attic PMC to take over the ownership of the above projects. I'll be opening issues in the tracker for these soon (volunteers TBD). Jakarta folks - We're looking for volunteer(s) to help with the associated tasks for these moves. Here is a comparable example for tasks to be performed (Xang): https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-44 Please post to the Attic general mailing list if you are interested in helping with the move(s). -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
[RESULT][VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic
Vote result: We will move ECS and ORO to the Apache Attic. I'll inform the Attic and include a call for volunteers to complete the associated tasks for the move(s). We will not move Regexp at this time as vgritsenko has expressed some interest in a recent bugfix (his vote to move Regexp to the Attic was +0). Lets revisit Regexp in 6 months time if there isn't much activity. Thanks to everyone for their input. -Rahul On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: This is a vote (or more correctly, three independent votes) to move Jakarta ECS, Jakarta ORO and Jakarta Regexp to the Apache Attic, based on the outcome of the most recent discussion on the topic. Since none of these subprojects may have enough PMC members active, this vote will be held by lazy consensus. If you object, please also provide a reasonable explanation. Vote runs for a week, ending no sooner than Aug 22nd, ~1:00 am Eastern US. Vote is being held on gene...@jao but is being cross-posted to ensure we reach the full audience. Please include gene...@jao in your reply. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Vadim Gritsenko va...@reverycodes.com wrote: On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:16 AM, Rahul Akolkar wrote: This is a vote (or more correctly, three independent votes) to move Jakarta ECS, Jakarta ORO and Jakarta Regexp to the Apache Attic, based on the outcome of the most recent discussion on the topic. There is one unreleased bugfix on trunk since the last regexp release, that's probably the only reason stopping me from voting +1. But if you are eager to mothball it, I won't object. My vote is +0. snip/ I wouldn't say I'm eager to mothball any codebase, its upto the remaining developers of each of these codebases. In recent discussions, it seemed like one or more of the mentioned codebases may be ready for the Attic. My opinion is that unless we anticipate release activity, we can go ahead with the move. WRT Regex then, were/are you planning a release some time in the not so distant future with said bugfix? If so, it'd be great to make that release and then mothball it -- worth waiting in that case. What do you think? -Rahul Vadim Since none of these subprojects may have enough PMC members active, this vote will be held by lazy consensus. If you object, please also provide a reasonable explanation. Vote runs for a week, ending no sooner than Aug 22nd, ~1:00 am Eastern US. Vote is being held on gene...@jao but is being cross-posted to ensure we reach the full audience. Please include gene...@jao in your reply. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
[VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic
This is a vote (or more correctly, three independent votes) to move Jakarta ECS, Jakarta ORO and Jakarta Regexp to the Apache Attic, based on the outcome of the most recent discussion on the topic. Since none of these subprojects may have enough PMC members active, this vote will be held by lazy consensus. If you object, please also provide a reasonable explanation. Vote runs for a week, ending no sooner than Aug 22nd, ~1:00 am Eastern US. Vote is being held on gene...@jao but is being cross-posted to ensure we reach the full audience. Please include gene...@jao in your reply. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: New home for ECS, ORO and Regexp?
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Daniel F. Savarese d...@savarese.org wrote: In message aanlktinvmhsax0b7ehn9z6pbslrxqcaefaccyjowm...@mail.gmail.com, Rahul Akolkar writes: Daniel (or anyone else) - Should we check if there is interest at Commons in taking ORO? I'm reluctant to encourage additional expenditure of effort to keep ORO going (although I'm always available to apply patches and respond to issue reports). Let's wait a week and see if anyone else would like to explore a move to Commons. If no one expresses interest by next Friday, then I'd think it's off to the Attic by default. snip/ Four Fridays later, I haven't seen any other notes so I don't think anyone is planning more active development at this time. I'll initiate a vote for the Attic moves in a day or two. -Rahul daniel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: July board report input needed
Last call for any additions / edits to the board report (see below). -Rahul On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Rahul Akolkar wrote: Please provide any input for our July board report by Friday, July 16th by editing the wiki. I've added the template for July to the wiki here: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-current -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: New home for ECS, ORO and Regexp?
Feedback received in thread can more or less be summarized as Hen's note below. Daniel (or anyone else) - Should we check if there is interest at Commons in taking ORO? Vadim (or anyone else) - Should we check if there is interest at Commons in taking Regexp? If so, I will offer to initiate a thread over in Commons land if you want. -Rahul On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Henri Yandell bay...@generationjava.com wrote: +1 on ECS to the Attic. +1 on ORO/Regexp to the Attic, unless Daniel/Vadim are interested in moving them to Commons. To Daniel's not being +1 on Attic - don't worry about the infrastructure move part, it's a well defined process now and someone will take care of it. Hen On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: This is cross-posted, please use your discretion to respond to the relevant list(s). At a suitable time, I'll try to collate replies in a summary post to gene...@. We have three Jakarta sub-projects that have been discussion points for moving elsewhere (viz. ECS, ORO and Regexp). For example, the last time this came up was during the merge development mailing lists discussion. There have been a couple of candidate locations spoken of where these can be moved: (a) Apache Commons, where they can be maintained -- pending Jakarta and Commons approvals; and (b) Apache Attic, where they can be retired -- pending Jakarta approval. If there is interest in moving one or more to Commons, we can initiate that topic with Commons some time soon. So, for each of the three sub-projects: Commons or Attic or something else now? I'll wait three weeks for any responses, please reply by 3/21 if you have any comments. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
July board report input needed
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Re: [site] Taglibs downloads
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:05 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/06/2010, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:34 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: The Jakarta site still includes Taglibs in the downloads section. OK if I remove all of those now? snip/ Not sure. OOH, most of these are retired. OTOH, unlike some of the other ex-Jakarta stuff, most of these download pages haven't moved elsewhere so these are their only download pages. I'd not realised that the Attic and Tomcat pages referred back to the original download pages. In retrospect I suppose that makes sense. Perhaps we could change Taglibs to Taglibs (retired) or some such in the unordered list on the main downloads page [1] and leave the other pages intact. Except some are not retired... snip/ Yes, though I don't know how much that matters in the context of [1]. An alternative would be to leave the individual download pages, but remove Taglibs from [1] and drop [2] altogether. snap/ I'd leave individual pages and [2] in place. [2] could be improved to note deprecations. I have no preference on what to do for [1] -- upto the person making the change :-) -Rahul It would still be possible to get to the download pages via Attic or Tomcat. [2] http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_taglibs.html Anyone else have an opinion or preference? -Rahul [1] http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/ S/// - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [site] Taglibs downloads
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:34 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: The Jakarta site still includes Taglibs in the downloads section. OK if I remove all of those now? snip/ Not sure. OOH, most of these are retired. OTOH, unlike some of the other ex-Jakarta stuff, most of these download pages haven't moved elsewhere so these are their only download pages. Perhaps we could change Taglibs to Taglibs (retired) or some such in the unordered list on the main downloads page [1] and leave the other pages intact. Anyone else have an opinion or preference? -Rahul [1] http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/ S/// - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release BSF 3.1 (based on RC3)
Added [VOTE] prefix to subject to make sure its understood there is an ongoing vote in this thread. -Rahul On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 11:53 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: [Third time lucky?] Please review and vote on the BSF 3.1 release. The artifacts are available at: http://people.apache.org/~sebb/bsf-3.1-RC3/ The Maven artifacts are at: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachebsf-004/ The SVN tag is at: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/bsf/tags/bsf-3.1-RC3 This will be renamed following a successful vote. Keys are here: http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/bsf/KEYS Vote will remain open for at least 72 hours. [ ] +1 I support this release. [ ] -1 I am against releasing the packages (must include a reason). Thanks in advance! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Closing alexandria and slide user lists
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: Closing alexandria and slide user lists has been a TODO, we never followed through with the infrastructure folks. I will open an INFRA ticket to close these with appropriate forwards in place (gene...@jakarta and gene...@attic respectively). snip/ See INFRA-2763: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2763 -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Closing Jakarta mailing lists: servletapi-dev and watchdog-dev
As indicated below, I will now be requesting infra close these lists with qmail forwards to d...@tomcat. -Rahul On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: [Please reply to gene...@jakarta or atleast include it] Jakarta has two mailing lists that were at some point relevant to the Tomcat folks and have been unused since Nov '02. I am proposing we close the lists, with forwards in place to d...@tomcat. If there are compelling reasons to maintain the lists, please respond within the next month. If they must be maintained, I'll suggest they be moved under the purview of the Tomcat PMC. No sooner than May 25th, I will request infra close these lists. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Closing alexandria and slide user lists
Closing alexandria and slide user lists has been a TODO, we never followed through with the infrastructure folks. I will open an INFRA ticket to close these with appropriate forwards in place (gene...@jakarta and gene...@attic respectively). -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Closing Jakarta mailing lists: servletapi-dev and watchdog-dev
[Please reply to gene...@jakarta or atleast include it] Jakarta has two mailing lists that were at some point relevant to the Tomcat folks and have been unused since Nov '02. I am proposing we close the lists, with forwards in place to d...@tomcat. If there are compelling reasons to maintain the lists, please respond within the next month. If they must be maintained, I'll suggest they be moved under the purview of the Tomcat PMC. No sooner than May 25th, I will request infra close these lists. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Board report input needed
If anyone wants to make any final edits, you have ~6 hours: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-current -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Board report input needed
Last call, folks. Anything else of note? http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-current -Rahul On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: Please provide any input for our April report within a week (by April 14th). I've added the template for April to the wiki. In case you're having trouble with the wiki, please just reply to this email with the suggested content for the board report. The template is supposed to render here (maybe it will in a while, I just see a blank page ATM): http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-current The raw wiki text does exist, its here: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-current?action=raw TIA, -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Moving Jakarta Slide and Jakarta Taglibs to the Attic
Attic folks - I'd like to inform the Attic PMC that the Jakarta PMC has voted to move the following projects to the Apache Attic: * Jakarta Slide: http://jakarta.apache.org/slide/ * Jakarta Taglibs: http://tomcat.apache.org/taglibs/ I am hereby requesting the Attic PMC to take over the ownership of the above projects. Jakarta folks - Any volunteer(s) to help with the associated tasks for the moves? Here is a comparable example, Xang (see tasks performed): https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-44 Please post to the Attic general mailing list if you are interested in helping with the move. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Moving Jakarta Slide and Jakarta Taglibs to the Attic
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: Attic folks - I'd like to inform the Attic PMC that the Jakarta PMC has voted to move the following projects to the Apache Attic: * Jakarta Slide: http://jakarta.apache.org/slide/ * Jakarta Taglibs: http://tomcat.apache.org/taglibs/ snip/ Sorry, incorrect Jakarta Taglibs URL above (there is a redirect in place from the old Jakarta Taglibs site to the Tomcat one). -Rahul I am hereby requesting the Attic PMC to take over the ownership of the above projects. Jakarta folks - Any volunteer(s) to help with the associated tasks for the moves? Here is a comparable example, Xang (see tasks performed): https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-44 Please post to the Attic general mailing list if you are interested in helping with the move. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Move Jakarta Slide and Taglibs to the Attic?
To summarize this thread, consensus seems to be to move both to the Attic. I will proceed to call a formal vote today, which will be held on the gene...@jakarta list. -Rahul On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: This is cross-posted to reach most of the potentially interested folks, please reply to the gene...@jakarta.a.o mailing list. Quick recap, Jakarta retired Slide in Nov '07 and most of Taglibs in Oct '09 (barring three that moved to Tomcat -- for the purpose of this email, Taglibs refers to the retired bits that remain in Jakarta). When our last board report was submitted, there was a question/suggestion whether Slide and Taglibs should be moved to the Attic. Anyone thinks otherwise? I'll wait three weeks for any responses, please reply by 3/21 if you have any comments. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
[VOTE][LAZY] Move Slide and Taglibs to Attic
This is a vote (or more correctly, two independent votes) to move Jakarta Slide and Jakarta Taglibs to the Apache Attic, based on the outcome of the recent discussion. Since neither may have enough PMC members active, this vote will be held by lazy consensus. If you object, please also provide a reasonable explanation. Vote runs for a week, ending on Apr 14th, ~11:30 am Eastern US. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Board report input needed
Please provide any input for our April report within a week (by April 14th). I've added the template for April to the wiki. In case you're having trouble with the wiki, please just reply to this email with the suggested content for the board report. The template is supposed to render here (maybe it will in a while, I just see a blank page ATM): http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-current The raw wiki text does exist, its here: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-current?action=raw TIA, -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Move Jakarta Slide and Taglibs to the Attic?
This is cross-posted to reach most of the potentially interested folks, please reply to the gene...@jakarta.a.o mailing list. Quick recap, Jakarta retired Slide in Nov '07 and most of Taglibs in Oct '09 (barring three that moved to Tomcat -- for the purpose of this email, Taglibs refers to the retired bits that remain in Jakarta). When our last board report was submitted, there was a question/suggestion whether Slide and Taglibs should be moved to the Attic. Anyone thinks otherwise? I'll wait three weeks for any responses, please reply by 3/21 if you have any comments. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
New home for ECS, ORO and Regexp?
This is cross-posted, please use your discretion to respond to the relevant list(s). At a suitable time, I'll try to collate replies in a summary post to gene...@. We have three Jakarta sub-projects that have been discussion points for moving elsewhere (viz. ECS, ORO and Regexp). For example, the last time this came up was during the merge development mailing lists discussion. There have been a couple of candidate locations spoken of where these can be moved: (a) Apache Commons, where they can be maintained -- pending Jakarta and Commons approvals; and (b) Apache Attic, where they can be retired -- pending Jakarta approval. If there is interest in moving one or more to Commons, we can initiate that topic with Commons some time soon. So, for each of the three sub-projects: Commons or Attic or something else now? I'll wait three weeks for any responses, please reply by 3/21 if you have any comments. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
January board report available on wiki for input
Happy 2010 all :-) New year, new report. Please add any content to the template posted on the wiki by Sunday, 17th Jan, 2 pm EST (thats one day before the deadline, giving me enough time to ship it etc.): http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-January2010 Thanks, -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
[NOTICE] Jakarta development mailing lists merging
The existing development mailing lists for Jakarta subprojects (BCEL, BSF, Cactus, ECS, JCS, JMeter, ORO, Regexp and retired subproject Slide) are merging. Two new lists will be soon be created, one for development discussions and another for notifications (such as SVN, Bugzilla, JIRA, Gump). Subscribers to any of the existing development lists mentioned above (also see CC header of this message) will be subscribed to the two new lists automatically. The existing lists that appear in the CC header of this message will subsequently be closed, with appropriate forwards in place to point to the merged list. The shared development discussions mailing list will use the convention of identifying the subproject associated with the posting in the email subject using square brackets. For example, a recent email sent to the jmeter-dev list had the subject: Exposing run info with JMX Once the shared mailing list is set up, the convention would be to use the following email subject instead: [JMeter] Exposing run info with JMX As a reminder, unsubscribing from a mailing list called l...@jakarta.apache.org can be done by sending an email to list-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org (replace list with actual name of the mailing list to unsubscribe from). -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
[ApacheCon] Who is around?
I'm not attending, but happen to be in Santa Clara so thinking of driving up one of these evenings. Wondering if anyone else is around and when, so I can decide whether to show up Tues. or Wed. evening :-) -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
[RESULT][VOTE] Merge dev lists
[Relaying result to all lists] The vote to merge dev lists at Jakarta has passed with the following binding votes cast: 5 +1s: Felipe Leme Daniel Savarese Vadim Gritsenko Rahul Akolkar Stephen Colebourne 2 +0s: Sebastian Bazley Rony Flatscher 2 -1s: Thomas Vandahl Torsten Curdt I also count 4 non-binding +1s (Mark Murphy, Venkat Krishnamurthy, Henri Yandell, Jörg Schaible) and 3 non-binding -1s (Hanson Char, Giuseppe, Tim Cronin). Two non-binding +1s were cast by folks who until recently were on the PMC (bayard, joehni) so perhaps not giving their votes enough credit is getting too technical here. We'll encourage simple conventions (as Commons was mentioned, for example) to make filtering email, searching archives etc. as convenient as we can on a shared list. Hope is that will alleviate to some extent the primary concern of those who've voted against. I will open an INFRA ticket for this merge in a week or so (after I post another heads up note with more details, dev mailing list conventions etc. to the lists). Thanks to everyone who voted. -Rahul On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: [Suggestion is to please reply to the gene...@jakarta list only] This is a vote to consolidate the development lists at Jakarta into one development and one notifications list. For background including timing, anticipated benefits and some discussion, see proposal [1] thread. [ ] +1 [ ] -1 While not required, it'd be nice if anyone voting against could briefly state the reason(s). And you're ofcourse welcome to vote +/-0 if you really want. Vote will run atleast 72 hours and will close no sooner than Thursday 5 pm EST. TIA. -Rahul [1] (long, possibly fragmented URL below) http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-general/200910.mbox/%3cce1f2ea80910091443t5cad1db0na0663c416cb83...@mail.gmail.com%3e - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Merge dev lists
Please start a new email thread if you need to reply (VOTE threads have special significance and its important to keep unrelated posts out of these threads). See below ... On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Xavier Delgado xavier.delg...@free.fr wrote: Hello, I'm flatted to be in your list, but I don't see how neither why I'm into. Could you leave my mail from the list? snip/ As mentioned in the email footer below, send email to general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org and reply to the confirmation email that gets sent out. If that doesn't work, send an email to the list moderators (at general-ow...@jakarta.apache.org ). -Rahul Thank you very much. Xavier Delgado. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Merge dev lists
Hi Rony, Please see clarification request below. On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:23 AM, Rony G. Flatscher rony.flatsc...@wu-wien.ac.at wrote: sebb wrote: On 19/10/2009, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: [Suggestion is to please reply to the gene...@jakarta list only] This is a vote to consolidate the development lists at Jakarta into one development and one notifications list. For background including timing, anticipated benefits and some discussion, see proposal [1] thread. [ ] +1 [ ] -1 +0. I follow BSF-dev and JMeter-dev and both are fairly quiet, so as far as I'm concerned they could be merged into a common dev list. However, I'm wondering if it's the right time to do this. AIUI there is talk of moving some of the Jakarta projects to Commons - why not do that first and see what's left? +1 Please clarify whether by that +1 you mean to: (a) agree with what sebb said above and are also voting +0, (b) agree with what sebb said above but have not cast a vote, (c) cast a +1 vote, (d) something else altogether :-) -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Merge dev lists
Given that I'm awaiting a clarification and this is a close vote, I'll extend the voting period by atleast another day. IOW, last call to vote :-) Counting my own +1, we currently have the following binding votes summary so far: 4 +1s 1 +0 2 -1s 1 awaiting clarification I also count 2 non-binding +1s and 3 non-binding -1s. -Rahul On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: [Suggestion is to please reply to the gene...@jakarta list only] This is a vote to consolidate the development lists at Jakarta into one development and one notifications list. For background including timing, anticipated benefits and some discussion, see proposal [1] thread. [ ] +1 [ ] -1 While not required, it'd be nice if anyone voting against could briefly state the reason(s). And you're ofcourse welcome to vote +/-0 if you really want. Vote will run atleast 72 hours and will close no sooner than Thursday 5 pm EST. TIA. -Rahul [1] (long, possibly fragmented URL below) http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-general/200910.mbox/%3cce1f2ea80910091443t5cad1db0na0663c416cb83...@mail.gmail.com%3e - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Merge dev lists
I generally want to stay out of this vote thread till it runs its course and I do appreciate the viewpoints expressed so far. Since there is a question posed here, I'll try to respond briefly below ... On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 6:00 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/10/2009, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: [Suggestion is to please reply to the gene...@jakarta list only] This is a vote to consolidate the development lists at Jakarta into one development and one notifications list. For background including timing, anticipated benefits and some discussion, see proposal [1] thread. [ ] +1 [ ] -1 +0. I follow BSF-dev and JMeter-dev and both are fairly quiet, so as far as I'm concerned they could be merged into a common dev list. However, I'm wondering if it's the right time to do this. AIUI there is talk of moving some of the Jakarta projects to Commons - why not do that first and see what's left? snip/ IMO: We will pursue that, we know what will be left. The bits that may move out contribute hardly any dev traffic so it doesn't change the equation here very much. This is absolutely a good time to do this. Jakarta is now at a point where this is feasible (i.e. enough bits have moved out that the collective dev traffic is mild compared to some other projects). In doing this level of flattening, it allows us to overcome one of the biggest shortcomings of the canonical umbrella project with dev nooks and crannies. Other motivations as mentioned elsewhere. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
[VOTE] Merge dev lists
[Suggestion is to please reply to the gene...@jakarta list only] This is a vote to consolidate the development lists at Jakarta into one development and one notifications list. For background including timing, anticipated benefits and some discussion, see proposal [1] thread. [ ] +1 [ ] -1 While not required, it'd be nice if anyone voting against could briefly state the reason(s). And you're ofcourse welcome to vote +/-0 if you really want. Vote will run atleast 72 hours and will close no sooner than Thursday 5 pm EST. TIA. -Rahul [1] (long, possibly fragmented URL below) http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-general/200910.mbox/%3cce1f2ea80910091443t5cad1db0na0663c416cb83...@mail.gmail.com%3e - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] One development list
Quick recap so far is that there have been a variety of views expressed on the topic of one dev@ (and commits@/notifications@), and it seems there is some positive interest in moving ahead. Therefore, as noted towards the end of the email below, I'll be moving to the next step of calling a vote on the topic on Monday -- IOW, this is also a reminder to bring up pending discussion points on the topic, if any, between now and then. This thread has also generated a number of other items of interest, which I'm suggesting we discuss separately if further discussion is needed. These include, in the order they came up: * Merging of user lists * Viability of a JMeter TLP * Moving ecs, oro and regexp to Commons Of the three items above, I'll pick up on the ecs, oro and regexp move to Commons in a new thread, in another week or two. -Rahul On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: [Out of necessity, this is heavily cross-posted. Suggestion is to send any replies to the gene...@jakarta list only to keep any discussion in one place.] We currently have 8 active development lists at Jakarta, each devoted to a subproject. I've been subscribed to all for a while and based on my observations and the overall benefits of doing so, I think its time to consolidate them into a single development list at Jakarta. Motivations (not in any order): * Flattens and simplifies oversight - Not much else to be said on that. * Communication - Subprojects can often have various touch points. So, Rony's surprise today at the BSF taglib being retired is one example. Lets have all dev discussions on one list. * Cross-pollination - Most subprojects are at the point where it certainly wouldn't hurt to have the active folks from all of Jakarta around for dev discussions, votes etc. * Manageable overhead - More on this later, but we have a number of usual suspects showing up on many of the dev lists, they'd barely notice a difference. Others can manage, IMO/hopefully. Operationally: * The combined list traffic will obviously be more than any one of the separate lists. However, development tends to be in spurts on these lists and the probabilistic chances of more than a couple of subproject spurts happening at the same time seems quite low. Overall, combined traffic is not at all overpowering IMO. * The proposal will include closing current dev lists and adding all subscribers to the one new dev list. We'll post a heads up on these lists before that. Throw in site-cvs@ as well for good measure. * We could repurpose general@ as the one dev list, but OTOH, seems worthwhile to maintain the dev / general separation. * No changes proposed to the user lists. Thoughts? Lets say a little over a week (10 days, which should give us two weekends) for initial feedback and opinions please. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Slide lists
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Roland Weber ossf...@dubioso.net wrote: Brett Porter wrote: A related side note - some time back I think there was a request to shut down the slide user and dev lists, but that slipped off the radar. Is that desired now? At the time when we retired Slide, the idea was to keep the lists open in case somebody picks up interest. Based on this year's activity on the lists, I'd say there is no interest. The lists can be shut down. snip/ Unless Brett sees this over the next few days, I suggest sending an email / adding a JIRA for infra. I think we'd want a last post for the archives asking further communication to be on gene...@j and then we can close the lists. Since there are still automated mails being sent to slide-dev from Bugzilla and Gump, that address should be forwarded to an existing mailing list. snap/ Or point Bugzilla and Gump to gene...@j (even discontinue Gump if the nags are bound to fall on deaf ears). -Rahul cheers, Roland - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Slide lists (was: [PROPOSAL] One development list)
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Brett Porter br...@apache.org wrote: A related side note - some time back I think there was a request to shut down the slide user and dev lists, but that slipped off the radar. Is that desired now? snip/ ISTR some discussion but its been a while. Before I go digging in the archives, do you happen to have a pointer to a conclusive post / JIRA on this? (if nothing else, slide-dev folds into the proposal here, slide-user fate can be discussed thereafter) -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] One development list
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Torsten Curdt tcu...@vafer.org wrote: Care to elaborate a bit? I'd argue that for the people who care it's no big deal to subscribe to the various lists. So tuning in is no problem, tuning out once consolidated indeed is. It's an all-or-nothing. How is oversight better when everyone (or at least all PMC members) are subscribed to all dev list as opposed to just the one? snip/ Its not. But expecting all PMC members to be on one dev list constitutes a much gentler forcing function. While the one dev list might work OK for Commons I have the feeling that these projects are just too different. In Commons one could imagine to step up for another component. I don't see that with the rest that is left at jakarta. If there are many cross-posting (that would be a sign for cross-concerns) I haven't noticed any. At least I don't see the benefits of a consolidation. I would rather ask all PMC members to subscribe to all dev list than merging the lists. Not to talk about the mailing list archive confusions and hassle this might create. snap/ My claim is that sharing a mailing list is a solved problem. sebb pushing out BSF 3.0 is an example of someone stepping up for another component -- more exception than rule, yes. but well - that's just my opinion and the -1 should not be blocking. Just saying that I don't like the idea. snip/ Sure, and I'm not trying to get you to like it, rather to understand your initial response a little better. Thanks for elaborating. -Rahul cheers -- Torsten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [DRAFT] October board report due
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:26 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/10/2009, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: snip/ === Releases === * None * BSF 3.0 on Oct 9th snap/ Yup, will incorporate your edits into the report. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Wiki fun (was [DRAFT] October board report due)
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:49 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: I created: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2274 snip/ Thanks for that. -Rahul On 09/10/2009, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/10/2009, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: Sidebar first: Having fun with the wiki at the moment, can't seem to create a new page for the October 2009 report (new WikiName added here [1], trying to create it ultimately ends up here [2] ). Same for me. Does not seem to be possible to create any new pages currently (same applies to JMeter Wiki). At least it stops spammers ;-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
[PROPOSAL] One development list
[Out of necessity, this is heavily cross-posted. Suggestion is to send any replies to the gene...@jakarta list only to keep any discussion in one place.] We currently have 8 active development lists at Jakarta, each devoted to a subproject. I've been subscribed to all for a while and based on my observations and the overall benefits of doing so, I think its time to consolidate them into a single development list at Jakarta. Motivations (not in any order): * Flattens and simplifies oversight - Not much else to be said on that. * Communication - Subprojects can often have various touch points. So, Rony's surprise today at the BSF taglib being retired is one example. Lets have all dev discussions on one list. * Cross-pollination - Most subprojects are at the point where it certainly wouldn't hurt to have the active folks from all of Jakarta around for dev discussions, votes etc. * Manageable overhead - More on this later, but we have a number of usual suspects showing up on many of the dev lists, they'd barely notice a difference. Others can manage, IMO/hopefully. Operationally: * The combined list traffic will obviously be more than any one of the separate lists. However, development tends to be in spurts on these lists and the probabilistic chances of more than a couple of subproject spurts happening at the same time seems quite low. Overall, combined traffic is not at all overpowering IMO. * The proposal will include closing current dev lists and adding all subscribers to the one new dev list. We'll post a heads up on these lists before that. Throw in site-cvs@ as well for good measure. * We could repurpose general@ as the one dev list, but OTOH, seems worthwhile to maintain the dev / general separation. * No changes proposed to the user lists. Thoughts? Lets say a little over a week (10 days, which should give us two weekends) for initial feedback and opinions please. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] One development list
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Daniel F. Savarese d...@savarese.org wrote: In message ce1f2ea80910091443t5cad1db0na0663c416cb83...@mail.gmail.com, Rahul Akolkar writes: We currently have 8 active development lists at Jakarta, each devoted to a subproject. I've been subscribed to all for a while and based on my observations and the overall benefits of doing so, I think its time to consolidate them into a single development list at Jakarta. ... Thoughts? No objections from me. That's been my preferred course of action for many years now (along with opening commit access for all Jakarta projects to all Jakarta committers, if we haven't already done so). snip/ Cool (SVN restrictions were removed in April 2006). lists before that. Throw in site-cvs@ as well for good measure. * We could repurpose general@ as the one dev list, but OTOH, seems worthwhile to maintain the dev / general separation. * No changes proposed to the user lists. I'd rather site-cvs be rolled into a single c...@jakarta.apache.org containing commit traffic for all Jakarta projects. Redesignate general@ as user@ to contain user traffic for all Jakarta projects, retiring all the -user lists in the process. People can specify the specific project referred to in the subject a la Commons (e.g., Subject: [oro] how do glob expressions work?). Then add d...@jakarta.apache.org (also like commons). snap/ All this certainly seems worth considering. The dev lists are low-hanging fruit IMO, so makes sense to start there (as dev@ and commits@ as you note). If there is overwhelming support for merging user lists as well now, thats fine -- if not, lets separate the discussions and get the easier parts done. -Rahul daniel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
[DRAFT] October board report due
Sidebar first: Having fun with the wiki at the moment, can't seem to create a new page for the October 2009 report (new WikiName added here [1], trying to create it ultimately ends up here [2] ). So pasting draft below, more input and/or feedback on general@ please (by the 18th). -Rahul [1] http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaReport [2] http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Action%28edit%2CCreate%20new%20empty%20page%29 8 == October 2009 Board Report == Jakarta status report for August to October 2009. PMC membership updates Over the last three months, the Jakarta PMC has gone from being the largest PMC in the foundation records to the second largest, from having 120 members on the PMC to currently 87. A number of PMC members who no longer have a lot of interest or time to devote towards Jakarta anymore have stepped down. At the same time, we also checked with 28 PMC members who were no longer subscribed to the private list, 2 of whom decided to stay on and subscribe. === Releases === * None === Subproject news === BCEL Occasional post to the user list - otherwise quiet, in maintenance mode. BSF There have been discussions about a 3.0 release. There has also been interest from Rony Flatscher in continuing the 2.x line of development for a 2.5 bugfix release. There have been a number of improvements, an SVN reorganization and preparations towards a 3.0 release, mostly by sebb. Cactus A couple of user list posts, no development activity since last report. ECS No activity - maintenance mode. JCS The user list has been active, and a couple of bug fixes have recently gone in. Aaron Smuts has been responding to user queries and making the code fixes. JMeter JMeter has been the busiest part of Jakarta in the last three months. Sebb continues to make many improvements. The code in trunk is being upgraded to JDK 1.5 which has offered the opportunity for related improvements. There have been a number of new Bugzilla reports, including a few patches being proposed. ORO Some activity in bugzilla in September - maintenance mode. Regexp No activity - maintenance mode. Taglibs This is the last board report that will list Taglibs updates. As reported in July, the Tomcat project will host three of the taglibs (RDC, Standard, Extended) going forward and the rest of the taglibs have been retired. Henri Yandell did most of the work to make this happen. The SVN move for the three taglibs is complete. The websites have been migrated to the tomcat.apache.org site. Bugzilla and Gump have been redirected. The taglibs-user list has been maintained and moved over to the tomcat.apache.org domain name, while the main Tomcat development list will now be used for contributor discussions. The taglibs-dev Jakarta list has been closed. Taglibs updates will henceforth be part of the Tomcat board reports. Retired Projects * Slide * Taglibs (partial) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
[DRAFT] Board Report July 2009
Here is the draft Board report for this month: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-current Please make any desired changes to the above wiki page directly. The report needs to go out in about 20 hours. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Apache Jakarta Project Board Report, June 2009
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:18 PM, sebbseb...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/06/2009, Scott Eade se...@backstagetech.com.au wrote: snip/ [Report edited and submitted by Scott Eade with contributions by many.] Thanks for doing this! snap/ Yup, thanks Scott. Seemed early until I saw that the meeting was a week sooner :-) (Marvin originally reported 24th to mvdb) -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@jakarta.apache.org
Re: Cactus scratchpad tree
Can we please have these conversations on cactus-dev? I understand the need for vote threads to begin here. But this one, for example, is on the wrong list IMO -- there were one or two others in the same boat. -Rahul On 4/2/08, sebb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the scratchpad tree under trunk still needed? If it's intended for experimentation, perhaps it should be moved to a branch instead. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta at the center of the (ASF) universe
On 11/16/07, Jukka Zitting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Earlier today I did some graphs on cross-pollination among Apache projects and blogged a summary at [1]. Jakarta always ended up dominating the graphs, so the version on my blog has Jakarta excluded. If you're interested, there's a version with Jakarta in it at [2]. :-) snip/ Nice pictures, thanks for sharing. FWIW, I like the one with Jakarta (and Incubator). -Rahul [1] http://jukkaz.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/the-apache-cloud/ [2] http://people.apache.org/~jukka/2007/asf5.png BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta site directory no longer contains .svn directories
On 6/7/07, Thomas Vandahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sebb wrote: Thanks; that's also fixed the missing updates. I wonder how it happened? That was me. I could have *sworn* that I copied these over by accident and as busy to remove them as fast as possible. Is this procedure svn update - edit - ant - svn commit - svn update site documented somewhere? I've never seen anything like this. snip/ Though one of the fringe benefits is that both ends of the transform (site sources and gen'ed site markup) get versioned, thereby can be diff'ed etc. I've had half a page in a m1 site disappear on me lately, I imagine some plugin version changed somewhere. -Rahul Bye, Thomas. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Result: [VOTE] Release JCS 1.3
On 6/3/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. though that page probably needs a bit of a reality check.. The problem is when someone does a -1 with reasoning, people tend to stop voting until that vote is switched to a +1 and if that vote is switched to a +1 and there are enough votes, people that stopped voting will keep silent. Hope I make sense :) snip/ Concretely, Thomas / Will -- In this particular scenario, I wouldn't release if I were the RM until I was able to work this out with sebb. YMMV. -Rahul Mvgr, Martin Will Glass-Husain wrote: Martin, Actually, that's not true. Releases cannot be vetoed by a -1. See http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html If there's a majority approval and at least 3 +1 PMC votes, than it's up to the release manager to decide whether or not to release. He can decide to table the vote based on feedback, if so desired. (We had this issue in the release of Velocity 1.5). WILL On 6/3/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rony is a PMC member.. However the -1 of Sebb (which is binding and blocking) is still there (unless I missed his +1).. Added Rony to the jakarta-pmc authorization file (thanx for spotting this).. Mvgr, Martin Thomas Vandahl wrote: Hi Roland, Roland Weber wrote: Hi Thomas, I could not find any information about whether Rony Flatscher is a member of the PMC In the committers-only SVN module is a file board/committee-info.txt which lists the PMCs of all Apache projects. It's (supposed to be ;-) the authoritative source. Rony Flatscher is listed there as PMC member. I came across some commit message regarding asf-authorization which contained a list of members of the jakarta-pmc group and he was not listed there. So I was unsure. I'm not sure myself how Sebastian's -1 will be weighed here. I would have expected that the NOTICE and LICENSE files get fixed and he changes his vote. As by his last mail on the topic, the content in SVN did not get fixed. If you changed the release files manually, you should commit those changes to SVN and give Sebastian some time to change his vote. We were voting on the artifacts on people.apache.org/~tv/jcs/, not on SVN. This is at least what I understood the release-then-vote-policy means. I have committed the latest changes and moved the tag, however. If Rony is a PMC member we have a result of 3 +1 votes, which should be sufficient. However its up to the PMC to decide this. Bye, Thomas. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jakarta-watchdog-4.0 source download
On 5/30/07, Peter J Allenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i understand this project is dormant. i would still like to download the source. i can not seem to locate a download location. if anyone can give me a pointer that would be very helpful. snip/ You could go to the repository: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomcat/watchdog/ Not sure which branch and revision or tag, here's a candidate (there are others): http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomcat/watchdog/branches/other/tc4.x/watchdog4-2001/ -Rahul thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP
On 5/23/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip-plan/ If that, or something like it, sounds like a good consensus plan, then I'm definitely more in favour of that than Commons going to TLP. There are really only four steps: Step 0: Consensus. Step 1: Move 3 projects to the Incubator. Step 2: Move other projects into Commons. Step 3: Re-establish Jakarta PMC - we'd use pretty much the same resolution we just voted on here. So the question is; is the above direction worth discussing, or should we just go with the Commons TLP. snap/ I think it is. From the Commons TLP discussion so far, a couple of things stand out for me: * Whether Commons fits the bill (assuming the bill is tending towards a TLP for a product) -- lets punt on that (since the board won't have that privilege). * If we're going to invite half (or more) of the remainder of Jakarta to join the Commons TLP, perhaps we can do that exercise here, and aim towards step 3. I do understand that some of us are wearing thin on patience and that this would be a detour. -Rahul Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP
On 5/23/07, Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/23/07, Dion Gillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there's another issue here. Many of those who voted +1, aren't on the initial list of committers in the proposal. Also, many current commons committers aren't on the proposed list. Yup thats disappointing. It seems that we're not voting on that specific proposal, rather just the idea to move, and that a lot of people are being disenfranchised by not being listed. Its down to people to add themselves to the TLP resolution (they were invited to do so) - if people are disenfranchised then its their own choice. snip/ In teasing apart these two questions: (1) Whether a community member plans to continue to be involved with the Commons community (regardless of where the code resides -- this TLP or a new one) (2) Whether a community member supports the TLP proposal Its possible to answer 'yes' to (1) but oppose / be undecided / abstain on (2). For example, see Simon's post in this thread, I think he raises a similar point. I'm in that boat as well. Wouldn't it be better if the initial list came from the svn acl? Would seem wrong to put people on the list without their consent. snap/ Agreed. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Move POI to TLP
On 5/4/07, Nick Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All After lots of discussion within POI, and Jakarta in general, we think POI is ready to graduate to its own TLP. Thanks to the magic of ApacheCon, lots of people have been on-hand to help finalise the proposal for this, which is attached below. So, now is the time to vote on the proposal: [X] +1 I support the proposal [ ] +0 I don't care [ ] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... snip/ -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Move Turbine to TLP
+1 -Rahul On 4/28/07, Scott Eade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Turbine project has been discussing a proposal to the board that the Turbine projects leave the Jakarta umbrella and become their own top level project. We are now at the point in the process that calls for a vote to take place. The proposal is available at: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-turbine/TLPTurbine For the interested, most of the discussion took place in the following thread: http://www.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--TLP--tf3574436.html Here are the vote options: [ ] +1 I support the proposal [ ] +0 I don't care [ ] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... Voting will close in one week. Thanks, Scott - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposing new committer - which mailing list to use?
On 4/18/07, Rony G. Flatscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi S///, It mentions setting the Reply-To to private AT jakarta when sending the invite - is the private list also the correct place to submit the initial proposal? AFAIK, yes! Just in case the proposal fails, I don't want to cause hurt to the person by raising the vote on a public mailing list such as this. snip/ Unfortunately, we're quite inconsistent in the way we do these votes at Jakarta. Just have done that and the voting has been going on on private. (Even if it was the wrong list, you would be pointed at, I am sure! ;) ) snap/ That was a different kind of vote. -Rahul HTH, ---rony - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposing new committer - which mailing list to use?
On 4/19/07, sebb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19/04/07, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/18/07, Rony G. Flatscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi S///, It mentions setting the Reply-To to private AT jakarta when sending the invite - is the private list also the correct place to submit the initial proposal? AFAIK, yes! Just in case the proposal fails, I don't want to cause hurt to the person by raising the vote on a public mailing list such as this. snip/ Unfortunately, we're quite inconsistent in the way we do these votes at Jakarta. Which may be because the process is not fully documented. snip/ Yes, I suspect its been you do what you've seen done on such occassions in the past sort of thing. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moderators needed
On 4/8/07, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to step down from being a moderator of some of the Jakarta mailing lists. Before I do, though, I want to make sure that we have adequate coverage, which in my mind means at least two moderators for each list. snip/ Thanks for checking. With myself excluded, here's what we would have for the lists for which I am currently a moderator: announcements - craigmcc bayard mvdb taglibs-dev - husted taglibs-user - husted The announcements list looks fine, but we'd want to have at least one more moderator for each of the taglibs lists. Any volunteers? I believe any committer can be a moderator of these lists. snap/ Sign me up for the taglibs ones. -Rahul -- Martin Cooper - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Petar Tahchiev as Jakarta Committer
On 3/25/07, Felipe Leme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'd like to call a vote to have Petar Tahchiev as a Jakarta Committer. snip/ +1 -Rahul Petar currently works as software engineer in Bulgaria, but was a MSc student last year, when we proposed porting the Cactus build to Maven 2 as a GSOC (Google Summer of Code) project. Although the project didn't make it to the allotted ASF projects, Petar kept doing the (hard) work, despite my slowness to support him. Prior to participate on Cactus development, he made some contributions to Apache Ant and other ASF projects. He also has a blog at java.net (http://weblogs.java.net/blog/paranoiabla/). A couple of months ago, I failed (again :-() to setup a sandbox SVN branch at ASF for him to continue his work, so he ended up creating a separated repository on SourceForge where we could do some work in parallel. Now that code is ready to come back to the Jakarta codebase, and the proper legal measures has already been taken (see http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/jakarta-cactus-tahchiev.html). Besides the technical aspect, I can tell from personal experience that he is a talented and enthusiastic developer, and will be a valuable contributor to the Cactus/Jakarta communities. So, here is my (PMC binding) +1 vote. -- Felipe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tomcat configuration
On 3/20/07, Richard Dunne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a technical issue in jakarta tomcat. I have installed jakarta tomcat and can view and execute the JSP examples and Servlets on http://localhost:8080. I have added the environment variables for CATALINA_HOME and JAVA_HOME. I have added the context for my project in server.xml. My project is in folder X located at c:\ My server.xml entry is context path=/X docBase=c:\X debug=0/ My problem is that when I type http://localhost:8080/X I am getting HTTP Status 404 - /AlliedAutoParts type Status report message /X description The requested resource (/X) is not available. Apache Tomcat/5.0.28 Can anyone advise on a possible solution? If there is any other mailing address for technical issues please advise. snip/ See: http://tomcat.apache.org/lists.html -Rahul Thanks, Richard Dunne. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Release Regexp 1.5
On 3/19/07, Jesse Kuhnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something being a good idea and being required ASF policy are really very different things. The suffering is in the implication that I'm not already being careful. That we're not all supposed to be slightly better than average developers with the apache branding and all. The fact that it's ok to send me emails telling me I'm part of a problem project because I haven't followed some new guidelines put in place because of other peoples mistakes - mistakes I haven't even made is really just insulting and annoying. snip/ Unsure what emails, annoyances etc. you were talking about so I tried to look at Tapestry list archives (I guess thats what you are refering to?) -- specifically looked for things like votes, discussions about releases etc. Now I can't find a vote for v5.0.3 (maybe I missed it, maybe votes are on the private list -- I don't know), but if what you are saying above is that there is no need to vote at all, that goes against what has been described elsewhere in this thread as community consensus, and appears completely different from the discussion here (timing of the vote). -Rahul I wonder how often these kinds of emails come out on the google code or sourceforge lists? :/ On 3/19/07, Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipped There are all sorts of things that can go wrong when cutting a release - an example the other day - Tomcat 5.5.23 had/has a problem because the RM didn't have a jar in his local environment - its not a guarantee I know (Tomcat produce artifacts to vote on before release!) - but the more pairs of eyes checking out the distro before it goes out has got to be a good thing. Its not about incompetance, just catching mistakes before rather than after. I also don't get your suffering point - most projects can produce a RC quickly - Tag Build - doesn't take long - so where is the suffering in doing that before calling a vote? Niall -- Jesse Kuhnert Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer Open source based consulting work centered around dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for an incubation champion
On 3/7/07, Oliver Zeigermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Matt! I understand you already are a Jakarta Commons commiter, right? Wouldn't it be the easiest way to add the project to the Commons sandbox, make it ready for a release and promote it to the proper section quickly. AFAIK all Commons committers are allowed to create projects in the sandbox. This would mean you do not need any champion, but could do it yourself. Niall, others, isn't that correct? snip/ Not if the code is developed outside the ASF (as seems the case here). -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for an incubation champion
On 3/7/07, Oliver Zeigermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/3/7, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 3/7/07, Oliver Zeigermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Matt! I understand you already are a Jakarta Commons commiter, right? Wouldn't it be the easiest way to add the project to the Commons sandbox, make it ready for a release and promote it to the proper section quickly. AFAIK all Commons committers are allowed to create projects in the sandbox. This would mean you do not need any champion, but could do it yourself. Niall, others, isn't that correct? snip/ Not if the code is developed outside the ASF (as seems the case here). Hmm, is that so? Looking at the charter http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/charter.html I could not find something like that. snip/ It is so, without a doubt. The original charter probably predates the existence of the Apache Incubator itself by well over a year. IMO, we're steadily growing as a Foundation in our understanding of code donations and bringing existing external projects (code, community et al) in the ASF fold. There are multiple aspects to these transitions, all of which are best handled by the procedures and policies of the Apache Incubator. Ofcourse, all of this and more is here [1]. -Rahul [1] http://incubator.apache.org/ Oliver - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POI TLP -- constructively
Nice, agreed. -Rahul On 12/18/06, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really liked hearing Avik speak up because he's been hurting for snip/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[site] Changes
Reminder: Please svn up /www/jao/ after committing site updates. I seemed to drag in a few more changes than expected after my update minutes ago. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: svn commit: r482344 - in /jakarta/site: docs/site/news/news-2006-q4.html docs/site/rss.xml news.xml
On 12/5/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/4/06, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Log: Fixed up the Digester news item to inline the links rather than show them snip/ The rationale behind showing the links is to make sure the feed doesn't contain sentences like Download Digester from Digester download page or some such equally hopeless text (since we lose anchor tags). Don't care about this change per se, but thats the reason it was done that way. Gotya. Seems odd to lose the tags in a feed - they're meant to be html snippets aren't they? snip/ More or less, à la portlets -- (X)HTML subset, but definitely anchors. Got no time to look into what gives ATM. -Rahul Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: svn commit: r482318 - /jakarta/site/docs/site/rss.xml
On 12/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: bayard Date: Mon Dec 4 11:48:24 2006 New Revision: 482318 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrev=482318 Log: Added descriptions of what discovery and digester do as we had those in the email snip/ Thanks Hen, -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: svn commit: r482344 - in /jakarta/site: docs/site/news/news-2006-q4.html docs/site/rss.xml news.xml
On 12/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: bayard Date: Mon Dec 4 12:34:35 2006 New Revision: 482344 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrev=482344 Log: Fixed up the Digester news item to inline the links rather than show them snip/ The rationale behind showing the links is to make sure the feed doesn't contain sentences like Download Digester from Digester download page or some such equally hopeless text (since we lose anchor tags). Don't care about this change per se, but thats the reason it was done that way. -Rahul Modified: jakarta/site/docs/site/news/news-2006-q4.html jakarta/site/docs/site/rss.xml jakarta/site/news.xml Modified: jakarta/site/docs/site/news/news-2006-q4.html URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta/site/docs/site/news/news-2006-q4.html?view=diffrev=482344r1=482343r2=482344 == --- jakarta/site/docs/site/news/news-2006-q4.html (original) +++ jakarta/site/docs/site/news/news-2006-q4.html Mon Dec 4 12:34:35 2006 @@ -165,12 +165,12 @@ /p p Digester 1.8 contains a few new features and a small number of bug - fixes. Full details can be found in the release notes: - a href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/commons/digester/RELEASE-NOTES.txt;http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/commons/digester/RELEASE-NOTES.txt/a + fixes. Full details can be found in the + a href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/commons/digester/RELEASE-NOTES.txt;release notes/a. /p -p Digester is available in either binary or source form from the Digester - downloads page: - a href=http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_commons-digester.cgi;http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_commons-digester.cgi/a. +p Digester is available in either binary or source form from + a href=http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_commons-digester.cgi;Digester downloads/a + page. /p hr noshade=noshade size=1/ a name=20061203.1 Modified: jakarta/site/docs/site/rss.xml URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta/site/docs/site/rss.xml?view=diffrev=482344r1=482343r2=482344 == --- jakarta/site/docs/site/rss.xml (original) +++ jakarta/site/docs/site/rss.xml Mon Dec 4 12:34:35 2006 @@ -21,12 +21,12 @@ Digester 1.8 contains a few new features and a small number of bug - fixes. Full details can be found in the release notes: - http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/commons/digester/RELEASE-NOTES.txt + fixes. Full details can be found in the + release notes. - Digester is available in either binary or source form from the Digester - downloads page: - http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_commons-digester.cgi. + Digester is available in either binary or source form from + Digester downloads + page. /description /item Modified: jakarta/site/news.xml URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta/site/news.xml?view=diffrev=482344r1=482343r2=482344 == --- jakarta/site/news.xml (original) +++ jakarta/site/news.xml Mon Dec 4 12:34:35 2006 @@ -44,14 +44,12 @@ /p p Digester 1.8 contains a few new features and a small number of bug - fixes. Full details can be found in the release notes: - a href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/commons/digester/RELEASE-NOTES.txt; - http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/commons/digester/RELEASE-NOTES.txt/a + fixes. Full details can be found in the + a href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/commons/digester/RELEASE-NOTES.txt; release notes/a. /p -p Digester is available in either binary or source form from the Digester - downloads page: - a href=http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_commons-digester.cgi; - http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_commons-digester.cgi/a. +p Digester is available in either binary or source form from + a href=http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_commons-digester.cgi;Digester downloads/a + page. /p /release release id=20061203.1 product=Commons Discovery 0.4 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug 33167
On 7/31/06, Dennis Lundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Srinath Narasimhan wrote: Hi I wonder if anybody can give me an answer about bug 33167. I just need to know whether it will be released in future releases, if so when? I have already posted this question as part of the bug trail itself and I did not get an answer. Jakarta Commons has moved from Bugzilla to JIRA. Your issue can be found at this address: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DBCP-61 snip/ And sorry for redirecting you yet again, but perhaps the more appropriate forum for DBCP questions is the Jakarta Commons mailing list (user or dev, as per content of message) as mentioned on the DBCP site here [1]. -Rahul [1] http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/dbcp/mail-lists.html -- Dennis Lundberg Thanks Srinath. snap/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
