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RE: Project Activity
I don't really think project activity can be calculated from code changes alone. I would say project activity should cover the complete process of setting up requirements for the software, designing, implementing, testing and using it. If Jakarta would have a structured software development process this would be easy to do, but because of the all the diverse ways of coming to a release this is hard to do I guess. But maybe some milestones/checks can be put up which could be measured (e.g. in respect with time between the milestones, time between a bugreport and a bugfix). This way you might create a couple of vague notions like: *time-to-release (short/medium/long) *stableness (amount of bugs reported, hihg/medium/low) *userbase (large/medium/small) *amount of minor releases (bugfix release) per month or year. Those kind of stats might give a user way more information than the amount of commits or changes to a certain file. I wouldn't even want to know ;-). Project activity measurements only create unnecessary competion IMHO. In Jakarta's case projects are rejected anyway if they don't have a certain activity. Alef -Original Message- From: Peter Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 13 May 2002 12:31 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Project Activity On Mon, 13 May 2002 20:17, Danny Angus wrote: Sometimes lists are where the activity is, commits alone don't credit the essential design and planning effort put in by users commiters and non-commiters that shapes the product and maps its progress. Agreed - even worse. Sometimes after these activity meters turn up you get committers breaking up one commit into many commits, presumably to push their activity level up. You also get the many typographic changes for much the same reason. I have found that higher healthy activity is actually indicated by small localized changes. This is not going to be captured in a simple count the commits and note the committer style approach. -- Cheers, Peter Donald -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: automated nightly builds
There's a lot of possibilities. Personally I prefer using Ant in combination with cruisecontrol (by Martin Fowler, check out http://cruisecontrol.sourceforge.net). You might also check out http://jibe.sourceforge.net (the cvs can be found at http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/jibe), which uses cruisecontrol, ant and provides a lot of templates and stuff... Ok, it is managed and created by me and is FAR FROM finished (but will be in the next two weeks). Nightly builds are nice, but having a build when needed (so every hour or ten minutes even) lets you discover bugs way faster! With cruisecontrol this is possible (it checks the CVS every X minutes) and has a nice web interface... I suggest: start out with cruisecontrol! Alef Arendsen -Original Message- From: fabio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 01 March 2002 15:18 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: automated nightly builds Please send to the list (or at least to me too :). Thanks. Fabio. Danny Angus wrote: Hi, I was wondering how (if?) other projects (than james) manage automated nightly builds. I have a server that could do the checkout,building and upload. Does anyone have a shell script, ant script, or cron job I could rip-off? d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Fabio Mengue - Centro de Computacao - Unicamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vacum ad brejus mobilet -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ot] J2EE considered harmful
I used to see J2EE and EJBs as the perfect solution to build scalable, maintainable webapplications. Our companies has been moving away from the webapplications business and we're completely focussing on delivering knowledge management components (including some integration stuff). The initial idea to focus strongly on the fact that we were doing EJB and using a good development process (yeah, I'm drifting off topic, but that's not going to take long), quickly dissappeared. The market isn't asking for it! So far Suns nice intentions of putting an industry standard to work. What's left in my opinion is the vendor lock-in (how do you call that, I'm not a native English speaker), something you absolutely DO NOT have with EJBs. The second advantage of EJBs is just a time saver. We want to focus on language identification, taxonomy based categorization and things a like, and NOT on developing a server platform. Ok, EJBs isn't that up to my standards anymore, but still, I couldn't not do it any better, without ignoring the deadline, the investors gave us ;-). But yeah, Tim Hyde (I believe) said it correctly: 'Overall, it is Java *not* living up to its early promise.'. And not only when it comes to J2EE. Backward compatibility is a rapidly growing issue, new I/O is introduced, the core is growing and growing, the code base is messy as hell. JCP is not working at all. So what's the score? DotNet is the new Microsoft initiative, and - as always - they've perfectly imitated J2EE and have had a good look at all J2EE's pitfalls. USed J2EE as a basis and extended it in a very very very good way (ok, little bit devil's advocate here). So maybe that's the next thing. -- Java will stay, languages never dissappear, and Java has even less chance to dissappear on the other hand, J2EE, in my opinion, will get a hard time the coming year! A very hard time -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful
As far as I can remember Google has started out in a small shed using just personal computers. No big mainframes, serverfarms or whatever. Just a proprietary server platform. What the status is right now, I don't now... alef -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 01 February 2002 16:46 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful yahoo.com goes way beyond a search engine: Email, address books, auctions, classified ads, file storage, calendars and shared calendars, personalized portals for like 27 different sub applications, the list goes on. Yahoo is delivering a vast number of dynamic applications to an incredible number of users, with excellent performance and reliabity. If there a success story in IT, this is it. I picked yahoo.com and google.com as two different examples of high traffic Web sites that are delivering scalability. I only mentioned google.com since it is ~blazingly fast~, and represents a very different best-of-breed right now. Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Those are both search engines with non-critical data update issues. You do need an example with more business-logic oriented type functionality. I could mock something like those up with Lucene just with a few routers and pushing the indicies to the mirrored systems. This doesn't answer the enterprise system question. Secondly we need examples on a more moderate basis. (sorry, if that sounds critical, I don't mean to be, I think you're heading the discussion the right direction, I just don't think those examples do that) On a more personal note. Funny story: My wife went to high/grade school with the Google guy. Small world eh? -Andy On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 08:57, Ted Husted wrote: Perhaps the question to ask is how are real sites providing real scalabilty without resorting to Enterprise JavaBeans? Take google.com and yahoo.com for example, Yahoo offers a signficant number of remote, multi-user applications like the ones we would like to provide to our own clients. Are they using EJBs? If not, what do they use? How can we turn Yahoo's approach into a toolkit model that other developers can use? Google is offering a single, read-only servvice, but at mind-bending speed. How does it serve so many users so quickly? Again, how can we package that approach in a way that it accessible to other developers? Sorry to be providing more queries than code, but to paraphrase Linus, it often takes one person to articulate an issue, and another to resolve it =:o) -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Java Web Development with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- www.superlinksoftware.com www.sourceforge.net/projects/poi - port of Excel format to java http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4487555.html - fix java generics! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Java Web Development with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
