Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Ben Walding
All,

In order to minimise the possibility of brand overloading or brand 
segmentation I propose that we introduce the standard community building 
techniques. 

So to this end I propose the immediate creation of
* a wiki to capture all this valuable discussion
* a set of blogs so that members of the team can interact and display 
their internal thought processes and avoid venting their opinions in a 
non-constructive manner (eg. on irc)

With these community building channels in place, it will only be a 
matter of time before we @ jakarta can say
Let the good code roll

(I see some people are referring to this as a joke?  I fail to see the 
amusing side.  Email harvesting is an important feature that may also 
aid in community building. We can harvest the names of users that have 
referred to jakarta products and then subscribe them (for free - 
initially) to an announcement list). This is called value-adding in 
the commercial world. Some of you communist coding hippies may not have 
heard of this.

Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

:-D  I created the sourceforge project months and months ago!  With 
full disclosure as to its purpose.

-Andy

Costin Manolache wrote:

You did actually create a sourceforge project for this joke ?

Costin

Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

 

Hi All,

I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the
incubator.  I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit
approval of the project before we work on acceptance into the
incubator.  I'm sure that despite the inevitable controversy, folks 
will
see a true value in this project and its active community.
Unfortunately the source repository and mail archives are down at the
moment, but I'm sure they'll be restored soon.

Note that there is also something strange with the bug database.  We 
now
have email deobfuscation which defeats schemes like
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and such, as well as acoliver at apache
dot org.  No worries, the mail will be harvested and get through!

Thanks for your consideration.  Please feel free to submit your vote in
advance.
-Andy

http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?SuperXMailerProposal

[0] rationale

SuperXMailer, the project hosted at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/superxmailer/ is a tool for harvesting
email addresses from web pages and mail lists, storing them in any
database or XML file, and sending them email addresses. It features
opt-out lists, email verification and much more.
The project is the creation of a number of Apache committers and is run
as a meritocratic community-developed project.
Presently the CVS repository and mail lists are down (as of 3/30), but
we have opened up a support request and will have it up again soon.
[0.1] criteria

Meritocracy:  SuperXMailer follows the Apache meritocracy rules, with a
core of committers including ASF members.
Community:  SuperXMailer has a modest, but very active community.  Its
users are very pleased with its performance and capture capabillities.
Core Developers.  SuperXMailer has an active and dedicated team of
committers.  The project was founded by Andrew C. Oliver, who is
extremely dedicated to SuperXMailer and authored the majority of the
codebase.  Nicola Ken Barrozzi and Glen Stampoultzis are frequent
contributors of components and bug fixes as well as some significant
extensions.  Sam Ruby has offered to provide Web Services extensions 
via
Axis.

Alignment:  SuperXMailer makes use of Lucene, POI, Struts, Velocity,
Turbine, Xerces, Tomcat and Xalan.
Scope:  SuperXMailer is entirely a server-side application, well 
aligned
with the overall goals of the Jakarta project.

[1] scope of subproject

The project shall create and maintain packages written in the Java
programming language constituting the framework, management tools,
search/database and mailer, a standard library of additional 
components,
documentation, a web site and additional examples.

[2] identify the initial source from which the project is to be 
populated

The project currently resides on the SourceForge 
(http://tapestry.sf.net).

[3] identify the Jakarta resources to be created

[3.1] mailing lists(s)

superx-user
superx-dev
[3.2] CVS repositories

jakarta-superx

[3.3] Bugzilla

framework - superx
components - web site, contrib library, documentation, examples
[3.4] Wiki

The SuperXMailer developers would like to make use of the ApacheWiki in
order to facillitate the admittedly spartan documentation.  However, 
its
extremely easy to use.  Many Apache committers have received mail from
persons using it with great results.

[4] identify the initial set of committers  (Any Jakarta commmitter is
welcome to add their name here)
Andrew C. Oliver

Nicola Ken Barrozzi

Glen Stampoultzis

[5] identify apache sponsoring individuals (Any Apache member is 
welcome
to add their name here)

Andrew C. Oliver

Nicola Ken Barrozzi
  




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Re: cvs checkout on cvs.apache.org doesn't work ...?

2003-01-30 Thread Ben Walding
Seems to be ok from my end...

Logging in to :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/home/cvspublic
CVS password:
cvs server: Updating jakarta-turbine-maven
U jakarta-turbine-maven/.cvsignore
U jakarta-turbine-maven/LICENSE.txt
...


make sure you can ping cvs.apache.org

You are aware that cvs doesn't work through an http proxy?


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

When I try to loging on the jakarta's anoncvs, i get this message :


C:\maven2 cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic login
(Logging in to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
CVS password:
Unknown host cvs.apache.org.


Do you have an idea ?
Could my proxy cause this ?

I hope i didn't bother you with such a futile question, and if I wrote to
the wrong mailing list, please forgive me.
Thanks for your advices.

Manuel Olivera






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