RE: Microsoft attempts to patent .NET

2003-02-12 Thread Christoph Wilhelms
> Surprise surprise...
> 
> http://www.javalobby.org/thread.jsp?forum=61&thread=6843

Does this surprise anybody ;)?
M$ is the reason why I did not have intensively dealt with .NET - even it
might be a good technology...

But what does that mean for us?

Do we have to unbundle the Ant .NET tasks (even if it would not hurt
myself)? What does happen to all these .NET Open Source (mostly GPL)
products/projects...

Thanx to M$ there will be many controverse discussions IMHO ;)!

Greetingx,
Chris

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RE: The Jakarta Site Was: [Discussion] (Fake)Forrest for Jakarta!

2003-01-30 Thread Christoph Wilhelms
Hi!

Sorry! Just picking one point, but :)!

> > > 7) What Apache community does Project X belong to?
> > What's an Apache community? Do you mean 'top-level project'?
> 
> Nope. Like, Jakarta should point to the Apache front page 
> somewhere, Ant
> should too. BSF should point to Jakarta.

Agrreed 100% - and this is what the forrest skin does in the header line
(http://ant.apache.org, http://xml.apache.org/forrest) Of course this
feature is part of FakeForrest :)

> ie) Apache projects are a hierarchy. If the idea of a project being in
> multiple communities occurs, then it would list these.

If you mean Ant for example: As you might have missed, Ant was promoted from
a Jakarta to a toplevel Apache project, so the link on Jakarta is just there
to redirekt to the correct page, because hundreds for websites, programs,
manuals etc. point to the jakarta website talking about Ant! Probably the
link can be removed from project.xml but the redirecting page has to remain
:)!

Additionally:
I think it's pretty important to know how old some information is. For this
reason (Fake)Forrest generates the deploy/generation date in the footer
row...

Just my 2 cents :)

Cheers,
Chris

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[Discussion] (Fake)Forrest for Jakarta!

2003-01-29 Thread Christoph Wilhelms
Hi all!

I saw the "Tapestry" discussion, and this remindet me, that I wanted to
"carry" FakeForrest to Jakarta!

So what is it? Simple: It's a set of 2 Velocity/Anakia template-files and
some images. The Velocity templates are build upon the Jakarta-ones and
follow the Jakarta-Anakia-DTD!

What does it? It renders Anakia-build websites with the (current - with some
small modifications - see below) Forrest skin.

Where can I find it? We currently use this to build the
http://ant.apache.org website so you can preview the result there and the
sources are in the Ant-cvs
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-ant/xdocs/stylesheets/.

Why should we use it? IMHO it is the FASTEST way to provide a nice,
functional and consistent look of the entire xxx.apache.org website!

Are there any limitations? Yes: Currently there are no multiple tabs for
menues on the left side, but this can easyly be solved by allowing multiple
menu-sections in the proect.xml

Additionally: We (Conor ;)) recently fixed some incompatibilities with the
HTML 4.01 standard so it now generates validatable HTML 4.01 code! It's
proved, it works, it's nice ;).

Remark: I do not see Fake-Forrest as the final solution, but its a nice and
fast way in moving to a nice new, consisten etc. look of the Apache website,
as I said before!

Thoughts?
Christoph

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