Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Update of Migrating to Subversion by HenriYandell
Hey guys, I'm up for making this happen when ever the active Turbine committers give the thumbs up (I myself haven't been active lately). Henning, let me know. - Dan On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 03:15 +, Apache Wiki wrote: Dear Wiki user, You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on Jakarta Wiki for change notification. The following page has been changed by HenriYandell: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Migrating_to_Subversion -- * JMeter- Nudge sent. * POI - Nudged. Is OS X support good enough? amongst other questions. * Tapestry - Nudged. Is [http://sublicpse.tigris.org/ Subclipse] good enough? - * Turbine - Henning Schmiedehausen, Daniel Rall + * Turbine - Henning Schmiedehausen, Daniel Rall (Discussing on Tuesday 19th at ApacheCon) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [svn] Alexandria: migrate or archive?
On Fri, 2005-06-24 at 17:41 +1200, Simon Kitching wrote: On Fri, 2005-06-24 at 01:35 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: I can't remember, are we going to migrate Alexandria over to SVN, or treat it like jakarta-site, jakarta-site-old and other obviously dead modules. If we want to migrate it, does anyone mind me just going ahead and doing so? I'm in favour of migrating it. There may well be stuff that people want to go back and look into over the next few years. That will be difficult when Apache no longer provides CVS access The site stuff is different; there's no obvious reason for looking at the history of any of that, or retrieving any old versions. For Alexandria, migration would be an appropriate scheme. I can't say that this is true for all effective dead projects, however. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Jakarta Wiki] Trivial Update of Migrating to Subversion byDanielRall
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 11:49 +0200, Dean Pickersgill wrote: Well Dean, it _was_ a wording tweak, meaning that the actual content didn't change much, merely the verbiage. - verbiage \VUR-bee-ij\, noun: The use of many words without necessity - manner of expressing oneself in words - m-w.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Proposal For Jakarta Sub Project For Web Application Components
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 16:11 -0700, Martin Cooper wrote: On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: i considered posting this to one or more of the announcement lists in an attempt to widen the audience but i didn't feel confident that it would be appropriate or wise. opinions? IMO, it doesn't need to go to announcements lists at this point. People who are only on those lists are likely interested only in things that have become real. When (if) the subproject is created, it might be more appropriate, but I don't feel a proposal is right for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did, however, forward the message to taglibs-dev and taglibs-user, since they may end up with a vested interest in this. I sent it over to Web Services as well. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Jakarta Wiki] Trivial Update of Migrating to Subversion by DanielRall
On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 01:56 +0200, Dean Pickersgill wrote: The following page has been changed by DanielRall: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Migrating_to_Subversion The comment on the change is: wording tweak ... Look, what IS the point of making comments which generate mail which says NOTHING?? 'Wording tweak'. Tells me a lot. Whats wrong with a sensible description that actually means something to the reader? Well Dean, it _was_ a wording tweak, meaning that the actual content didn't change much, merely the verbiage. - Line 12: The CVS repositories of dead projects are not targeted for migration (e.g. jakarta-site). The CVS repositories of dead projects are not targeted for immediate migration (e.g. jakarta-site). - If there's some way to update the change log message, be my guest. Otherwise, you're swinging the signal-to-noise ratio in the wrong direction. I get enough email. Thanks, Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Jakarta Wiki] Update of Migrating to Subversion by DanielRall
I'd like to suggest that your contributions might be more valuable in patch form, but given the quality of your review comments, I'll instead advise a little shut-the-hell-up. On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 01:53 +0200, Dean Pickersgill wrote: The comment on the change is: Noted Velocity completely done. Updated Subversion plan/+'s/questions/-'s ... Obviously not because people are still adding to it ... -- * Every sub-project of Jakarta gets a subdirectory in the Jakarta SVN repo. * They use a tags/trunk/branches structure within said subdirectory, though they could further componentise and then use the tags/trunk/branches structure if it fits them better. - + * The CVS repositories of dead projects are not targeted for migration (e.g. jakarta-site). == Positives == - One major plus is that it simplifies the life of the infrastructure team. They no longer need UNIX accounts for each user, but can maintain users in htaccess files (behind SSL). + Subversion provides many advantages over CVS, smoothing out its excessive character while providing the same approximate level of functionality, and a much better designed platform on which to develop tools. Sampling of improvements over CVS: + * move files within the repository and maintain the history + * delete directories (which are treated no different than any other versioned resource) + * treat groups of files in one commit as a single transaction (change set-like) + * significantly faster branching and tagging - There are many developer pluses too. Subversion gives us the ability to move files within the repository and maintain the history, to treat groups of files in one commit as a single transaction and has faster speed on tagging. + Another major benefit is that administration of Subversion simplifies the life of the Infrastructure team. UNIX accounts need not be created for each user; user accounts are instead maintained in htaccess files, with authentication occuring over SSL. == Questions == - * What do we do with legal issues? If a non-ASF allowed licensed file appears in the repository, can we obliterate it? Is it a problem if we can't? * Is the community's toolset fully supported? - * How do we educate the community? - * Do we need to migrate dead cvs modules? ie) jakarta-site? == Negatives == - * Tagging is just a directory copy. Tags which are more than a simple directory tree get trickier. ie) tagging without tagging all the files, or tagging plus a set of files in a sibling directory. The trick of doing 'cvs status -v build.xml' to list known tags for a module is no longer available as well. - * Installation. An SVN client, especially with SSL support, seems trickier to install than CVS. + * The tagging and branching model varies from that of CVS, and is only a cheap directory copy. Tags which are more than a simple directory tree get trickier. ie) tagging without tagging all the files, or tagging plus a set of files in a sibling directory. The trick of doing 'cvs status -v build.xml' to list known tags for a module is no longer available as well. Instead, the tags/ directory in the repository may be browsed using a 'svn ls' or a [http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ web browser]. + * Obliteration of files which should have never made their way into the VC repository (e.g. files with a non-ASF allowed license) can currently only be accomplished through a dump/edit/load of the entire repository by the Infrastructure team (resulting in a repository-wide maintenance window). == Migration Plan == @@ -39, +40 @@ * POI - Nudged. Is OS X support good enough? amongst other questions. * Slide - Stefan LCtzkendorf. Migration applied for. * Taglibs - Tim O'Brien. Martin Cooper. Renudged. - * Tapestry - Nudged. Is Subclipse good enough? + * Tapestry - Nudged. Is [http://sublicpse.tigris.org/ Subclipse] good enough? * Turbine - Henning Schmiedehausen, Daniel Rall === Archivals === @@ -49, +50 @@ === DONE === * BCEL - Henri Yandell - * BSF - Done. + * BSF - (done) * Commons - Martin Cooper + Tim O'Brien - [http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/SubversionConversion Conversion Instructions] * ECS - Robert Burell Donkin + Henri Yandell. jakarta-ecs and jakarta-ecs2. - * HiveMind - Done. + * HiveMind - (done) * Lucene- Erik Hatcher - * ORO - Daniel Savarese. + * ORO - Daniel Savarese * Regexp- Henri Yandell * Site2 - Tim O'Brien + Henri Yandell - [Site2 Conversion Instructions] - * Velocity - Needs folding of 3 dirs into 1. Daniel Rall. + * Velocity
RE: mod_dav_svn for SuSe 9.2 Professional
On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 15:27 -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I'd like to know whether anyone would know where I can find the mod_dav_svn That'd be a question for httpd.apache.org, not Jakarta (Java stuff). Or even better, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://subversion.tigris.org/project_packages.html#binary-packages - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SSH access to jakarta.apache.org
On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 19:01 +0200, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: Folks! As already said it seems I will need SSH access to jakarta.apache.org to update the jakarta commons transaction website - which I am a committer for. Is that right? If so who can grant that for me? infrastructure@ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
