Seeing clarification: Is Sam's post here the official report from
the PMC, or a summary of a PMC report posted elsewhere?
Looking at the news page, I see a summary for status of each
individual project in Jakarta, but no summary of the status and
growth of Jakarta as a whole. For example, PMC interest in
slowing/stopping the imperialistic expansion isn't directly
mentioned on the page, and yet is of interest to the community as
a whole (users and developers).
Doug
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Sam Ruby wrote:
The status report for Jakarta project is available at
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html and
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/index.html. These summaries are
community developed, monitored, and maintained. Feedback on their
contents should be directed to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED].
I tried unsuccessfully to summarize the summaries without looking like I
was trying to prove a point about it not being a good idea. Of course,
this begs the question about what happens when Jakarta is split up and
all this data feeds directly into the board, but I digress.
Overall, the imperialistic expansion phase of Jakarta has been put on
pause. No new code bases have been accepted. Two colonies, Ant and
Avalon, have split off successfully. The only issue in this area is
Tapestry which unfortunately has been left in limbo in the process,
neither accepted by Jakarta nor by the Incubator.
The biggest unresolved issues in Jakarta deal with codebases on either
end of the maturity spectrum. There are code bases which seen to be
perennially in alpha, and therefore feel the right to change interfaces
on a whim and without regard to the community impact of such changes.
Unfortunately, the existence of a sandbox seems to have
institutionalized this policy. Unquestionably, code bases in alpha
should be allowed to experiment, but the establishment of a playground
where this takes place indefinitely is not in the best interest of the ASF.
On the other end of the spectrum is codebases which have matured to the
point where there aren't enough itches to scratch to maintain a
development community. Such codebases (for example, regexp) are heavily
depended upon and so interwoven into the fabric of many Jakarta
subprojects that it is hard to imagine removing then from the ASF
despite the somewhat different community dynamic one sees thre. There
isn't even a quorum to hold a proper release vote or people actively
monitoring the bug reports and commits. This is a problem.
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