Re: Standard Change Log and ToDo

2001-12-12 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/12/01 2:05 PM, Paul Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jakarta projects use Anakia, but I have not found any macros in Jakarta-site2 that reference a Change Log or To Do list. Paul Spencer +1. Feel free to add some... -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: Standard Change Log and ToDo

2001-12-12 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/12/01 3:19 PM, Kevin A. Burton - burtonator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enlighten me... what are the benefits of an XML based changelog... besides the ability to XSLT it into html (I don't think this is necessary). Eewww...XSLT... How about being able to transform it into a ChangeLog.txt

Re: Comment for Apache.org

2001-12-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/10/01 4:43 PM, Scott Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope!!! jon is a complete ASSHOLE! If YAFF happens it is jon's fault! Put the responsibility where it belongs... on jon. It's him that keeps creating these commotions needlessly. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html p.s.

Re: Comment for Apache.org

2001-12-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/10/01 6:14 PM, Scott Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You also know that I haven't contributed to the Jakarta project in close to three years now because you insulted me one too many times. Lame excuse. Life is full of people you may not like. If you use that as your excuse for not

Re: Comment for Apache.org

2001-12-09 Thread Jon Stevens
Wow. It would be really great if you wrote an email that made some logical sense. -jon on 12/9/01 3:57 AM, Frans Thamura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All,, Do you know where the list for comment the apache.org web site.. Is there a team that responsible for managing the projects of

Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-06 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/5/01 11:27 PM, Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a case in point, I would like to point out EJB CMP as an example of design-driven technology which may very well look really stupid in another few years, especially given its atrociously slow mutation rate. If anyone who was

Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-06 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/6/01 2:05 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last time I talked to Eduardo (the spec lead for JSP) he still had never written a real webapp with it. Lemmings! Isn't the JDK 1.4's logging API story similar? The guys did not pay that much attention to Ceki's remarks, did

Re: ASP.NET Linux equivalent?

2001-12-04 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/3/01 9:14 PM, achawathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Friend , You should be aware of N tier logic which is developed by Sun Microsystems . MIcrosoft are just on the brink of it by adapting the three tier logic for it . Hope that you give a good look to Java , Jsp and ejb

FW: Cross Site Scripting holes abound

2001-11-25 Thread Jon Stevens
Sigh. -jon -- Forwarded Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 17 Nov 2001 02:05:53 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cross Site Scripting holes abound Mailer: SecurityFocus ::: Summary Over a year and a half since CERT issued warning on Cross Site Scripting, most dynamic

Re: Cross site scripting

2001-11-21 Thread Jon Stevens
on 11/20/01 11:54 PM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, Jon is asking for container-based solutions -- I guess that requiring the use of Strut tags for all your output qualifies. :-) Craig Sigh. I am *not* asking for a container based solution. Because something got

Re: Cross site scripting

2001-11-21 Thread Jon Stevens
on 11/21/01 1:26 AM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know of any generic solutions to the getStrippedHtml() or removeScriptTag() methods you propose - but are they still necesary if you do the getEscapedHtml() processing on everything? Craig The issue is whether or

Re: Cross site scripting

2001-11-20 Thread Jon Stevens
and C? gio Jon Stevens wrote: Sadly, it seems that the Java world really hasn't taken the cross site scripting issues seriously. Only a few projects within Jakarta have really made an effort to fix bugs and that was after they were pointed out by others. It also seems that most

Re: Cross site scripting

2001-11-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 11/20/01 7:43 AM, Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: filter everything for public consumption its safest, its not just SCRIPT you have to watch out for its also pernicious things like P onMouseOver=foo(); which may not work often, but you don't want it to *ever*, and who is to say which

Re: Indexing documentation

2001-11-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 11/20/01 11:51 AM, Paul Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Within the standard Jakarta documentation tools, i.e. jakarta-site2 and anakia, is their a way to build a keyword index? Paul Spencer You can use the tools available to help you create it, but there is nothing specifically there

Re: Cross site scripting

2001-11-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 11/20/01 10:58 AM, Steve Giovannetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the interest of breaking the chains of my cross site scripting ignorance, I'm assuming that the offending SCRIPT needs to be blocked from POST or GET requests made by users to JSP/Servlets on the target server? Nope. The

Re: Cross site scripting

2001-11-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 11/20/01 12:43 PM, Steve Giovannetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was trying to look at this from the standpoint of how does the offending script get on your site in the first place. Let's say you have a discussion board and you want to make sure no one puts nasty suff in SCRIPT tags in

Re: Standard definition for Alpha, Beta, RC, and Release

2001-11-19 Thread Jon Stevens
on 11/19/01 11:26 AM, Paul Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the PMC have standard definitions Alpha, Beta, Release Candidate, and Release? If so, then what are they? Specifically I am looking for the difference relative to: o Overall stability o Enhancement to Functionality o

Cross site scripting

2001-11-19 Thread Jon Stevens
Sadly, it seems that the Java world really hasn't taken the cross site scripting issues seriously. Only a few projects within Jakarta have really made an effort to fix bugs and that was after they were pointed out by others. It also seems that most of the examples are for other languages (PHP,

Re: Business-Oriented XML

2001-11-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 11/17/01 11:07 AM, Dave Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turbine is coupled to Java. It's not easy to use any particular database (e.g., an entire help section on how to integrate Oracle). With BOX, you set the default database with a straightforward configuration file:

Re: Business-Oriented XML

2001-11-16 Thread Jon Stevens
on 11/16/01 8:58 PM, Dave Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sql select * FROM WIC.FOURNIS WHERE COD_CLIENT=? ORDER BY NOM_FOURNIS /select using value-of expr=#WIC_CLIENT/ /using container name=results/ /sql Why the heck would you want to

CVSadmin Control

2001-11-15 Thread Jon Stevens
Hey all, In an effort to cut back on the amount of time I spend at Jakarta (you can start cheering now) and to give Jason van Zyl more control. I no longer have cvs admin privs and Jason has taken over that duty for me. So, if you need something done with regards to the avail file, as Jason.

Re: [OT] MS makes a better PetShop...

2001-11-01 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/31/01 5:41 PM, horwat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The J2EE PetStore application was created as an educational tool to showcase features available in a J2EE architecture. True, it has many more EJB's then required in a normal application but these EJB's are meant to be examples of how the

Re: [OT] MS makes a better PetShop...

2001-11-01 Thread Jon Stevens
on 11/1/01 11:59 PM, Matt Egyhazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perhaps sun should make it more clear that petshop is not a benchmark and is instead a multi-faceted example of the possibilities offered by j2ee. i suppose they could rework it and create a benchmark out of it... microsoft is

Re: [OT] MS makes a better PetShop...

2001-10-31 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/31/01 1:19 PM, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://msdn.microsoft.com/net/compare/petshop.asp Its not a very fair comparison (suprise suprise) but from a quick look at the source code, it seems MS achieve their performance gains by not using EJBs :-) Ok. Now that is

Re: [OT] MS makes a better PetShop...

2001-10-31 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/31/01 1:54 PM, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be interesting to have a Java competition - trying the various different techniques, tools and frameworks and seeing how each of them stack up to .NET. Comparing code complexity, performance etc. e.g. with beans or EJBs,

Re: Site update

2001-10-28 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/27/01 12:27 PM, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, When doing site updates, please don't forget to update before starting editing. For example, Berin reverted many changes to the news and binary pages. Remy Even though it was partially the fault of CVS that f*cked up in

[OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers

2001-10-25 Thread Jon Stevens
Why am I not surprised? The funny thing is that even in this down economy and with all the free (better?) alternatives that are out there, people will actually still pay for this stuff! We should put a paypal link on the Jakarta homepage and donate the money to AIDS research or some other

Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

2001-10-25 Thread Jon Stevens
+1 Please note: people from other projects are giving their vote...while the voice is appreciated, that vote doesn't really count since it is only the PMC's decision to include new projects. -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Distributing the JSSE

2001-10-24 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/23/01 7:38 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/23/01 5:55 PM, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/23/01 2:38 PM, Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/23/01 10:40 AM, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to distribute the JSSE jars

Re: Distributing the JSSE

2001-10-23 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/23/01 10:40 AM, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to distribute the JSSE jars with the Turbine Development Kit but I'm not entirely sure if it's legal. On the JSSE website it says that the binary implementation may be used royalty-free as part of commercial applications,

Re: ImportScrubberTask

2001-10-22 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/22/01 6:22 AM, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It works fine, but there is a problem with the imports being placed in the wrong place when there is text right after the package declaration. I asked Tom Copeland to fix this for me and he said he would get to it today. It does the

Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

2001-10-22 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/22/01 7:05 AM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason van Zyl at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like their project, the only thing I'm concerned about it is here: http://bcel.sourceforge.net/licensing.html Markus has agreed to change the licensing strictly over to the AL. Big

Re: New jar dependency for Cactus

2001-10-22 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/22/01 9:27 AM, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to ask if anyone sees a problem for using AspectJ (http://www.aspectj.org) with Cactus ? More specifically the license is MPL (http://aspectj.org/servlets/AJSite?channel=downloadsubChannel=license). Is that a problem ? I

Re: ImportScrubberTask

2001-10-22 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/22/01 10:56 AM, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only ran it on a small body of source, but Scarab is a good test bed. Scarab is something like 256 classes...most of it is Torque generated though... -jon - To

ImportScrubberTask

2001-10-21 Thread Jon Stevens
http://importscrubber.sourceforge.net/ant.html org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.optional.importscrubber.ImportScrubberTask Given that this isn't an official Jakarta project, shouldn't the tool choose another namespace? It isn't even listed here: http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/external.html -jon

Re: ImportScrubberTask

2001-10-21 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/21/01 8:40 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://importscrubber.sourceforge.net/ant.html org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.optional.importscrubber.ImportScrubberTask Given that this isn't an official Jakarta project, shouldn't

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-19 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/19/01 5:50 AM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1... Just remove the word ASP between decline and market in the little boxed text :) Pier Why? That was a direct quote. That isn't M$ ASP, it is 'application service provider'. -jon

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-18 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/18/01 12:41 AM, Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should remove the last paragraph, otherwise +1. Done. -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-18 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/18/01 12:18 AM, Ranjit Mathew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's sadder still, Jon, that you quote Paul almost verbatim in your document New Project Proposals (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html) and #1. It is a quote made in a public forum. #2. I also used a quote from Sam and

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-18 Thread Jon Stevens
Sam, I have integrated the changes that you suggested, please take a look. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

[PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-17 Thread Jon Stevens
Here is my proposal for new project creation guidelines. I have not linked it into the main site until I can get 3 +1 votes from the PMC and 0 -1 votes from the PMC. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html I will accept any patches against this document and/or direct commits from PMC

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/17/01 9:36 PM, Tim Vernum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I first read the original mail my reaction was Someone with a homeless project looking for an owner. I must be tainted from having been around here so long. I see right through his proposal. In fact Paul's most recent mail says

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/17/01 9:24 AM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing, but from a community standpoint, the ASF would rather incorporate projects that are not backed up by a self-sustained open-development community... Look at our last addition, Log4J, it was an IBM project, they dumped it,

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/17/01 6:08 AM, Paul Ilechko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever Jon is or isn't is not my place to say, but I think I was pretty clear that we are NOT looking to dump a project on Apache, that we ARE continuing to work on ASPizer and support it, and have described the commitment we

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/17/01 9:35 AM, Ceki Gulcu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jakarta is not a dumping ground for .bomb projects. Untactful? Yes. Accurate statement? Yes. Let me point out that I tried tact the first time I responded: There is nothing in your proposal discussion WHY you would want to give this

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/17/01 1:21 PM, Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon's last post is just so very much better. Why not start with something like that? It's still pretty direct, but in a much nicer, somewhat diplomatic way. I did start nice. How come you choose to ignore that? I'm not. It's

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/17/01 12:42 PM, Paul Ilechko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I responded to all your points, then you decided it was time to insult us, at which point it no longer seemed worthwhile responding to you at all. Fortunately, not everyone on the list has the same attitude problem. You

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/17/01 12:24 PM, Paul Ilechko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, this is not what we said. We said we cannot fund taking the product to market, which is vastly different than being able to fund development. We are primarily a consulting company, and we have used ASPizer for a client project.

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/17/01 4:29 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Calling someone's hard-worked project .bomb, without even trying to get informed about it. Does this qualify? It is a .bomb project though. I have an entire corporation of them (yes, I am the proud owner of a rather large worthless

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-17 Thread Jon Stevens
I don't have any more time for this. End of discussion. I'm not going to change my mind. -1 My suggestion: Put your project on SourceForget.net. There is another project there that is now hugely successful that we also rejected here and which I hosted for a number of years on my own dime, the

Re: Stylebook

2001-10-11 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/11/01 7:24 AM, Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anakia is the product many jakarta projects use. Anakia is the product that many Jakarta projects use...as well as the main http://www.apache.org site. It has proven to be quite useful and is fully documented:

Re: [Fwd: Tomcat extensions for ASPs]

2001-10-11 Thread Jon Stevens
There is nothing in your proposal discussion WHY you would want to give this to the ASF other than because you think you have a cool product. Nor is there anything that suggests what the developer community is like (ie: people who would be working on the product) nor the user community and the

Re: Any Jakarta calendar server projects?

2001-09-30 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/30/01 8:08 AM, Paul Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iCalander is not supported in current version (1.3a2) of Jetspeed, although I am not sure why. I think it clearly states the reason why on the link that Sam posted. -jon

Re: Need to add Jetspeed release and nightly to binindex

2001-09-23 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/23/01 7:20 PM, Paul Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As it turns out I do not have permission. If only you had read the Jakarta-site2 documentation... Anyway, for the future, you now have permission. -jon - To

Re: Need to add Jetspeed release and nightly to binindex

2001-09-21 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/21/01 3:45 PM, Paul Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to add the release and nightly builds of Jetspeed to http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.html. How should I accomplish this task? Paul Spencer http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jakarta-site2.html -jon

Re: [VOTE] Making Commons-Cactus a top level projet

2001-09-14 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/14/01 12:23 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't you want to preserve your history? History will be preserved in the repo it is currently in. -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [Lucene-dev] FW: Lucene Acceptance

2001-09-11 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/11/01 8:55 AM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's one piece that someone of root authority needs to do, and I'll coordinate that part. Including getting a list of people who need commit access. -jon - To

FW: [Lucene-dev] FW: Lucene Acceptance

2001-09-09 Thread Jon Stevens
Hey Ted, What is your status? -jon -- Forwarded Message From: Tal Dayan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 08:32:10 -0700 To: Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED], lucene dev lists.sourceforge.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Lucene-dev] FW: Lucene Acceptance Hi Jon, Where are we

Re: lists that don't require subscriber approval

2001-09-08 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/8/01 5:26 AM, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok for doing the website but I would have preferred someone who has already done it and has everything set up on his machine (I don't and will have to learn the mechanism before so it'll take a some time). To summarise, there are 2

Re: [PATCH] add jetspeed download links to the jakarta downloadspage

2001-09-07 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/7/01 2:17 PM, Chris Kimpton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +lia href=/~raphael/jetspeed/Jetspeed/a/li -1 Why is this in his home directory and not in the main jakarta site? -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: lists that don't require subscriber approval

2001-09-06 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/6/01 7:45 AM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. Perhaps the right fix here is to create a jakarta-cactus subproject. Agreed... I would kindly ask to the Jakarta-Commons people, to vote on making Cactus become a top-level subproject of

[OT] Another case for using OSS.

2001-09-02 Thread Jon Stevens
http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/010902/n02312723.html Doh! That sucks for all those people and their jobs. :-( Even worse are the people who purchased the software, built a ton of code (or companies) on top of Netobjects and now are shit out of luck. -jon

[OT] Servlets better for most companies!

2001-08-23 Thread Jon Stevens
Sigh, I have been saying this for well over a year now... http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5801cid=1031241 Next I need to just convince people that JSP sucks and I'm sure that Gartner will eventually write an article about it. :-) -jon

Re: [OT] Servlets better for most companies!

2001-08-23 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/23/01 4:23 PM, Kevin A. Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try convincing someone to use Torque instead of their $200,000 EJB server it is like trying to drive your hand through a 6' wall of steel... Or Torque instead of TopLink, which I'm hearing has 5/6 digit pricing now, and is very

Re: Viewcvs MIA

2001-08-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/20/01 2:09 AM, Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe he thought that this could be Jakarta's (configuration) problem? Or maybe he's just asking about clarification whether this is a bug or a feature? Then he should ask on the viewcvs mailing list because Jakarta's system is

Re: Viewcvs MIA

2001-08-16 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/16/01 4:20 AM, Conor MacNeill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While we are on the topic of ViewCVS, there seems to be a slight config issue when you do a select for diffs. For example, look at this page http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-ant/build.xml?r1=1.173 The coloured diffs link and

Re: [OT] $un, M$ and Java

2001-08-15 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/15/01 7:08 PM, Conor MacNeill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is this, some sort of advocacy forum? I can read this sort of crap on slashdot if I want. IMHO, All this stuff is outside the charter of this list. Even a flamefest about jars in CVS, or project directory layouts or something

Re: [OT] $un, M$ and Java

2001-08-15 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/15/01 8:42 PM, Conor MacNeill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you like a patch for that page? :-) Conor I would rather let you just commit it yourself, but a patch will do. -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Viewcvs MIA

2001-08-15 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/15/01 10:26 PM, Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject saids it all - else checkout http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ We know. Fixed now. -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: [OT] $un, M$ and Java

2001-08-14 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/14/01 7:30 AM, Pier P. Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/13/01 4:53 PM, Alex Fernández [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would change if Apache used GPL? I would quit. I would follow Jon. Pier I'm starting to picture lemmings here

JavaOne Call for Papers

2001-08-14 Thread Jon Stevens
Maybe people can write some proposals about talks that don't center around JSP. Last year was nuts...something like 50+ talks on JSP alone. Ewww. -jon * 2002 JavaOne(sm) Conference Call for Papers Sun Microsystems is seeking proposals for sessions for the JavaOne(sm) Conference, to be held

Re: [OT] $un, M$ and Java

2001-08-13 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/13/01 10:54 AM, Kevin A. Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send Stallman an e-mail right now.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He will tell you that Apache *is* Free Software. No need to fill his inbox with crap. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html The Apache License, Version 1.1. This is

Re: [OT] $un, M$ and Java

2001-08-13 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/13/01 4:53 PM, Alex Fernández [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would change if Apache used GPL? I would quit. :-) I let you decide if that is a good thing or not. :-) -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

FW: Veltag JSP Taglib

2001-08-13 Thread Jon Stevens
I love it. -jon -- Forwarded Message From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:54:33 -0400 To: velocity-user [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Veltag JSP Taglib Tonight I committed into the contrib section of CVS a mini-project called

[OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Jon Stevens
Can someone explain to me what the heck web services are so that I can decide whether or not this is even worthwhile to learn about? http://sdc.sun.com/briefings/agenda.cgi?eventkey=5100 I'm guessing it is fancy marketing foo about SOAP/XML-RPC or it is about how to build a website with JSP.

Re: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/8/01 8:34 AM, Waldhoff, Rodney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's an important part of optimizing your value Chain when dealing with everything from SMEs to large scale enterprises. ;) HAHAHAHA I'm sure it will increase my ROI on my ENV when my SME hits my JSP and pukes all over my RTFM.

Re: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/8/01 9:59 AM, Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the stuff I've read about for WebServices comprise UDDI, SOAP, and WSDL. The three combined provide a way to automatically discover remote resources that my webapp can use and then actually use it. I'm surprised no one has

Re: Loggers, loggers, all over the place

2001-08-07 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/7/01 5:47 AM, Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It takes a couple iterations of an API to get it right, and Sun foolishly decided to include the API without the real world testing and feedback. I'm sure it isn't the first time. :-) -jon

Re: Loggers, loggers, all over the place

2001-08-07 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/7/01 5:47 AM, Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopefully the information presented here will help you. I would stay away from JDK1.4 logging, and use either LogKit or Log4J which are of equal quality--but slightly different focuses and underlying concepts. +1 Log4J also has a

Re: Enhancement to jakarta-site2 -- XSLT stylesheet equivalent tosite.vsl

2001-07-31 Thread Jon Stevens
This entire email is *exactly* why I push for version numbers in jar files. Yes, classpath was empty Yes, ant 1.3 -jon on 7/27/01 3:01 PM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Jon Stevens wrote: on 7/27/01 12:08 PM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED

Moderation Duties...

2001-07-31 Thread Jon Stevens
Hi all, In an effort to cut down on the amount of email I get and spend more time on Scarab, I'm asking for volunteers to take over the duty of moderating the emails sent from people who are not subscribed to the mailing list. Note: people who are subscribed don't get moderated. The duty is

Re: Enhancement to jakarta-site2 -- XSLT stylesheet equivalent tosite.vsl

2001-07-27 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/27/01 12:08 PM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please help me debug this stylesheet, and improve its compatibility with site.vsl, by checking out the jakarta-site2 module and running the xslt target. NOTE: you will need to make sure that your Ant install includes the

Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-26 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/25/01 1:38 PM, Pier P. Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: burtonator at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But they haven't approached us... And I believe the first step should be done by them.. snip Not according to them. They said that they approached Jakarta about 1 - 1.5 years ago.

Re: jakarta-site2 process changes needed (heads up)

2001-07-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/20/01 12:14 AM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heads up ... the old process for updating the Jakarta web site no longer works, since the CVS repositories are no longer present on daedalus. It's too late tonight, or I'd actually figure out how to update fix -- but wanted

Re: problem with Apache email?

2001-07-19 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/19/01 6:51 PM, Morgan Delagrange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are icarus and daedelus right? I just tried icarus and it was no better. But you're probably on to something, maybe something got goofed up in the transition to the new CVS server. (I didn't actually get this email in my

Re: [PATCH] mail2.xml

2001-07-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/16/01 5:44 AM, Stephane Bailliez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Added direct links to archive on all projects so that people like me who are used to marc.theaimsgroup.com on many Apache projects stop wondering where turbine-user archive. Some projects had such a link, so I extended it to

Re: New CVS Host fingerprint?

2001-07-16 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/16/01 1:24 PM, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when i ping i get that cvs.apache.org is 64.208.42.41 jakarta.apache.org is 64.208.42.42 Update your DNS entries... nslookup cvs.apache.org Server: takahe.whichever.com Address: 157.22.245.4 Non-authoritative answer:

Re: mail at apache.org

2001-07-15 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/14/01 4:12 PM, Oleg V Alexeev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello , Can anybody explain me mail send/retrieval connections turning at apache.org? I try to connect to the apache.org with pop3/smtp mail client directly and via ssh, but I have troubles anyway... What do I wrong? I check

Re: No gump run today

2001-07-13 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/13/01 1:42 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday, it took 14.5 hours to do cvs updates across the various projects, and that is with 13 cvs updates cancelled due to timeout. Today looks worse, so I've cancelled it after 13.5 hours and 15 timeouts. Had I not cancelled it, it

Re: Reply-to munging

2001-07-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/10/01 9:36 AM, Alex Chaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can we turn off the munging of headers that is currently adding Reply-to on all the jakarta lists? Please read http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html before asking why it's a problem. -1 That document is one persons

Re: Top level intro to jakarta-site2

2001-07-10 Thread Jon Stevens
PROTECTED] Hello, please take a look at the page now. I have updated it to add more information. If there is anything else I can do for you, please let me know. Thanks, -jon stevens -- If you come from a Perl or PHP background, JSP is a way to take your pain to new levels. --Anonymous http

Re: Reply-to munging

2001-07-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/10/01 2:09 PM, Joseph Dane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.metasystema.org/essays/reply-to-useful.mhtml my vote, FWIW, is to leave things as they are. -- joe HELL YES! That essay conveys *exactly* what I was thinking. I love it. Thanks for the link. I'm saving that one

I find this funny...

2001-07-05 Thread Jon Stevens
ASP-JSP Translation... http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5092884,00.html I'm sure that this was one of Sun's goals all along when they created JSP. Unfortunately, the goal didn't seem to be more than that...like making JSP a really good and innovative technology. :-) -jon -- If

Watch what you say...

2001-07-05 Thread Jon Stevens
It might become a news article on a website... http://xmlhack.com/read.php?item=1291 Lol! Can someone please correct that CollabNet is not a Jakarta Project, but instead a Company? :-) -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-05 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/5/01 5:52 PM, Pier P. Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, one day I'll change it (also because it generates 70% of the traffic on daedalus!) And because CollabNet has to pay for that... -jon - To unsubscribe,

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/3/01 7:19 AM, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to propose the movement of the Helma XML-RCP package (http://xmlrpc.helma.org/) to Jakarta. The Helma XML-RPC package is the most popular OSS XML-RPC package and Hannes Wallnoefer would like to donate the code to the

Re: What are we doing in regards to JDK 1.4?

2001-06-21 Thread Jon Stevens
Edwin, on 6/21/01 7:16 AM, Edwin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: org.apache.regexp 1.2 is pretty much broken. It has some major flaws since 1.0 and they are still not addressed. See http://nagoya.betaversion.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?product=Regexp for a list of bugs (BTW none of them is

Re: Cactus Help Required

2001-06-21 Thread Jon Stevens
on 6/21/01 12:23 PM, Vaishnav, Kunal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any idea of where I am going wrong? You are posting to the wrong mailing list. Post to the commons list. -jon -- If you come from a Perl or PHP background, JSP is a way to take your pain to new levels. --Anonymous

Re: What are we doing in regards to JDK 1.4?

2001-06-21 Thread Jon Stevens
on 6/21/01 2:24 PM, Edwin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought submitting bug reports is also an important way to support Open Source. s/Open Source/Anything/ It isn't specific to OSS to submit a bug report... The code should be something like this: Submit a patch to the regexp-dev

Re: What are we doing in regards to JDK 1.4?

2001-06-21 Thread Jon Stevens
on 6/21/01 3:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! I'm glad I was browsing jakarta-general today - interesting and enlightening discussion. Re: influencing Sun: be sure to participate (or send feedback, or whatever they let you do) in JSR's of interest like Ceki was

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