Re: Jakarta at the center of the (ASF) universe

2007-11-18 Thread Nathan Bubna
On Nov 18, 2007 1:10 PM, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 01:58:29PM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: But that's the fact - that most of JavaLand sprang from jakarta... Jukka's graph shows committer cross-polination, not *codebase* cross-polination (as I

Re: Jakarta at the center of the (ASF) universe

2007-11-18 Thread Nathan Bubna
On Nov 18, 2007 1:14 PM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 18, 2007 1:10 PM, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 01:58:29PM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: But that's the fact - that most of JavaLand sprang from jakarta... Jukka's graph shows

Re: Suggestion to use OpenGrok to index all Jakarta source code

2007-09-01 Thread Nathan Bubna
I would LOVE to have something like this for Apache projects. Looks much more useful than ViewVC. I particularly like that the source code view would be able to plug right into PMD reports to make those more useful too. On 9/1/07, Alf H√łgemark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have a number of

Re: Suggestion to use OpenGrok to index all Jakarta source code

2007-09-01 Thread Nathan Bubna
request a zone/set theirs up based on the Velocity config. WILL On 9/1/07, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would LOVE to have something like this for Apache projects. Looks much more useful than ViewVC. I particularly like that the source code view would be able to plug right

Re: Suggestion to use OpenGrok to index all Jakarta source code

2007-09-01 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 9/1/07, Sriram Narayanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/2/07, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm. I'll put learn how to set up OpenGrok on Velocity's Solaris zone on my things-i-would-like-to-find-time-to-do-someday list. Of course, if someone more familiar with OpenGrok

Re: [VOTE] Move Turbine to TLP

2007-04-29 Thread Nathan Bubna
+1 On 4/28/07, Scott Eade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Turbine project has been discussing a proposal to the board that the Turbine projects leave the Jakarta umbrella and become their own top level project. We are now at the point in the process that calls for a vote to take place. The

Re: [VOTE] Release Regexp 1.5

2007-03-19 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 3/19/07, Oleg Kalnichevski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 13:30 -0400, Jesse Kuhnert wrote: Sure, of course it's ok for the ASF to dictate policies - I just hope it's ok for me to question them / point out their flaws. So the real problem as far as I can tell is making

Re: [VOTE] Release Regexp 1.5

2007-03-19 Thread Nathan Bubna
intervention. That would be great and would bring me back to where I already was. ;) On 3/19/07, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipped the actual bits that are distributed as an officially endorsed release do not have the luxury of diffs sent to the development lists, nor are they easily

Re: [VOTE] Release Regexp 1.5

2007-03-19 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 3/19/07, Vadim Gritsenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Cooper wrote: Those sites provide infrastructure, but absolutely no legal protection. Who says there is no way to combine legal protection and non-absurd procedures? For example: community votes for a release, RM tags a release (and

Re: Looking for an incubation champion

2007-03-09 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 3/9/07, Matt Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apologies for the top post. This puts us back to square one, with noone, at least from Jakarta, apparently interested in being champion, rendering the whole discussion moot. ;) Is there an appropriate next step other than simply forgetting about

Re: Looking for an incubation champion

2007-03-09 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 3/9/07, Matt Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/9/07, Matt Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apologies for the top post. This puts us back to square one, with noone, at least from Jakarta, apparently interested in being champion, rendering

[ANNOUNCE] VelocityTools 1.3 released

2007-02-14 Thread Nathan Bubna
://velocity.apache.org/tools/devel/changes.html VelocityTools 1.3 is available in either source or binary form at: http://velocity.apache.org/download.cgi#tools For more information about VelocityTools go to: http://velocity.apache.org/tools/devel/index.html Nathan Bubna, on behalf of the Velocity

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-24 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 9/24/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nathan Bubna wrote: On 9/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nathan Bubna wrote: On 9/22/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm +1 and -1. I'm +1 as I do think that Velocity as a TLP

[RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-22 Thread Nathan Bubna
Looks like the Velocity community is ready to head out on its own... +1 votes: Nathan Bubna Martin van den Bemt James Mitchell Henri Yandell Jorg Schaible Henning P. Schmiedehausen Will Glass-Husain Torsten Curdt Rony G. Flatscher Jesse Kuhnert Dion Gillard Daniel Rall Matthijs

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-22 Thread Nathan Bubna
in those discussions and decisions. But putting anything that uses Velocity into a TLP is like using things that use log4j into the same TLP (which would re-create Jakarta... :) Yep, good thing that's not the plan! :) geir Nathan Bubna wrote: Looks like the Velocity community is ready

Re: Re: Opening up the PMC

2006-08-15 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 8/14/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Torsten Curdt wrote: I am not really sure how to solve this. I am just ranting. For a few projects I think they should go toplevel. For the ones I am involved in at least jakarta commons surely deserves it (not looking

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-25 Thread Nathan Bubna
This sounds great, Martin. But if i may be forgiven a little semantic nitpicking, my understanding of previous discussions is that JWC would be a grouping rather than a sub-project. So Tiles would be directly a Jakarta sub-project, rather than a sub-sub-project (i.e. becoming Jakarta Tiles, not

Re: [VOTE] Jakarta Sandbox

2006-04-08 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 4/8/06, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: -1 on these points 1. There should not be an escape from the pain of the incubator. All new projects must go through the incubator and endure. Commons sandbox

Re: [VOTE] Remove SVN restrictions

2006-03-27 Thread Nathan Bubna
+1 On 3/26/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vote to remove the SVN barriers within Jakarta such that all jakarta-* groups are merged into the one jakarta group with the exception of jakarta-hivemind, jakarta-slide, jakarta-cactus and jakarta-jmeter under the assumption that they

Re: [PROPOSAL] Cleanup pmc members

2006-03-16 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 3/16/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ Nah, we're into a realm where legitimacy is defined by whatever we decide to do. Technically our charter says we need a 75% of the PMC vote to remove someone - we're not going to get that and it's not a rule that scopes. We probably

Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components

2006-03-07 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 3/7/06, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Colebourne wrote: Reposted (edited) from original commons proposal. Currently this proposal has general, though not unanimous, support. A vote thread may follow this thread if the mood remains positive. ... Jakarta

Re: Other Jakarta Components

2006-03-07 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 3/7/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitely in favour of turning things like Velocity, POI, Turbine into groupings if at all possible. Less likely with POI I suspect. I'd hope that this would mean: SVN Auth - everyone in Jakarta has write permissions SVN structure -

Re: Jakarta Web Components + Jakarta HttpComponents

2006-03-06 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 3/6/06, Oleg Kalnichevski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 10:14 -0800, Martin Cooper wrote: On 3/6/06, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/6/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (feel free to keep discussing names etc, but for the moment I'm going

Re: Representing project inactivity on the site

2006-03-06 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 3/6/06, Sandy McArthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/6/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Active Development Maintenance Mode Unsupported My preference would be: Active Development: not really named though, the implied default Hibernating: not active but will wake up as

Re: [PROPOSAL] Two community proposals

2006-03-05 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started to write a long email on the problems in Jakarta, on umbrellas, on the lack of a Jakarta community and existence only of subcommunities and on how it should be there is no Jakarta Xxxx, you are members of Jakarta - not a subproject;

Re: Representing project inactivity on the site

2006-03-05 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Rainer Klute wrote: Am Sonntag, den 05.03.2006, 15:03 + schrieb sebb: Might be worth distinguishing the Mature/Stable projects - e.g. ORO. [We're happily using that in JMeter] Yes, I second that. Inactive,

Re: Representing project inactivity on the site

2006-03-05 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 3/5/06, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/5/06, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola, Martin, I agree with almost everything you've said, except this: But why? If I'm a user looking for something to help me out in my development, I don't really care that much if

Re: [site] Kill the vendor support page

2006-02-08 Thread Nathan Bubna
+1 if the vendors wanna be on our Wiki, i say we let 'em do it. On 2/8/06, Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What we did with Lucene was to move the hard-coded committer maintained list of projects and products that use Lucene to the wiki. Let the community self-maintain this sort of

Re: jakarta struts binary

2006-02-08 Thread Nathan Bubna
Struts is no longer under the jakarta umbrella. you'll find what you need at http://struts.apache.org FYI, it's usually quicker to try asking Google about such things first. :) http://www.google.com/search?q=struts oh, and since java is platform and operating system independent, there is only

Re: [RESULT] Tapestry TLP

2006-02-07 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 2/7/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 09:43 -0800, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: Below is the result of the recent Tapestry committers vote to move Tapestry to an Apache top level project. Pending the approval of the Jakarta PMC, we'll be submitting the

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Velocity Tools 1.0 released

2003-07-16 Thread Nathan Bubna
web site (http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/velocity-tools/KEYS) when downloading from a mirror. Please see the Velocity Tools website (http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/tools/index.html) for more information. Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED