Re: VOTE: Tomcat - TLP

2005-04-07 Thread Remy Maucherat
Ian F. Darwin wrote:
   [ X ] +1 Vote in support
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Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-21 Thread Remy Maucherat
Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Mar 20, 2005, at 7:20 PM, Bill Barker wrote:
And, yet, all of the complaints about the article have been from 
people that aren't involved with Tomcat development ;-).
I think that's an unfair statement... does that fact diminish the
accuracy of what anyone is saying? I would also wager that
if it had been any other company with any other ASF project,
there would have been just the same discussion.
Cool :)
What if I, on the opposite, contend that if it had been any other 
company with any other ASF project, nobody would have bothered ?

Can you prove me wrong ?
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Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-21 Thread Remy Maucherat
Jim Jagielski wrote:
That would be kind of impossible to do, logically :)
But I would agree that other companies have occasionally
crossed lines that should not have been crossed, both
companies associated with ASF projects and external
companies that have no ties or links at all. In those
cases we (the ASF and/or the projects affected) have
requested retractions/corrections/removals/etc...
And as I've mentioned before, I don't think there's
anyone here who has not been misquoted or mis-represented
(by journalists or over-eager PR types) to the extent
where they were embarassed-to-angry about it. I *know*
it's a struggle. I'm not trivializing it in the least.
Great, so you manage to sneak by an assertion that a line have been 
crossed here. Cool debate ;)
The small mistake made on our wesite has been made by the entire Java 
industry. The person who wrote the page (it was not me) just made the 
same mistake everyone else did, period. Nobody is actually confused by 
it (since they were already confused), and there are no issue about 
confusion with another product.

At this point, how about simply kicking me out and ending the problems 
faster ? Just one quick vote on board@ and any future issues disappear 
magically.

I will not repent/apologize/atone/change my behavior, etc, nor ask my 
company to repent/apologize/atone/change its behavior, since I think 
they made all the necessary adjustments already. One thing is certain: I 
will not bother wasting my time to defend my company or myself in this 
kind of ridiculous thread. I already sent a couple emails with simple 
explanations when it was requested.

My personal view on the ASF is that I should do more code, less 
politics, which seems to bring more value. As a result, I am at the 
mercy of the politician gang ... Feels like real life, though ;)

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Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-21 Thread Remy Maucherat
Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Mar 21, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Remy Maucherat wrote:
Great, so you manage to sneak by an assertion that a line have been 
crossed here. Cool debate ;)

My intent was not to make an accusation but rather a simple statement
that any issue we are talking about is not unique or particular
to any one company. Yes, I think the SD tagline is a line that was
crossed.
Geez... I go out of my way to make this NOT a JBoss thing, to
and it falls on deaf ears. How about reading the rest of the
Email instead of one line that you took the wrong way?
There's still some murkiness in the branding. I sent an email, and it 
seems our PR person was told by Brian that Tomcat should be called 
Apache Jakarta Tomcat (which we actually used a while ago, but not 
anymore).

At this point, how about simply kicking me out and ending the problems 
faster ? Just one quick vote on board@ and any future issues disappear 
magically.
Oh foo. No one is remotely suggesting that.
If the issue is to reappear every time there's an article/PR/etc, then 
there's no point.

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Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-19 Thread Remy Maucherat
Henri Yandell wrote:
Due to the timeliness of this, I plan to send it Sunday night. Given 
that we're on a weekend, I doubt it will be read until Monday.

Any opinions?
I am definitely contributing to Tomcat as part of my employment at 
JBoss. I am not contributing on my own free time to Tomcat as an 
individual at the moment, and (as far as I can remember, as it was a 
while ago ...) have submitted a company CLA reflecting that 
(http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas). Anyway, it is obvious Apache has 
the notion of company contributions. Stating otherwise is wrong, and 
does not match the legal documents the ASF uses.

I think continuing with the current attitude would only lead my company 
to reevaluate its involvement in ASF projects, and I could not really 
blame them if they did. Of course, this may be what some people here 
seek (hopefully, it is not and it's just my paranoia at work).

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Re: [VOTE] [site] New download pages

2005-02-17 Thread Remy Maucherat
Henri Yandell wrote:
I'd like to go ahead and move to my suggested new download pages:
http://jakarta.apache.org/~bayard/jakarta/site/downloads/downloads.html
[X] +1
[ ] -1
It's very good.
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Re: Adding project version to bugzilla

2004-07-22 Thread Remy Maucherat
Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Hi,
Please remind me what I need to do / whom I need to ask that a new
version (e.g. 5.0.26 and 5.0.27 for tomcat) be added to the list in
Bugzilla's Version field?  Thanks,
 

I don't remember anymore who's the bugzilla admin. I can edit versions, 
but got that a few years ago.

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[ANNOUCEMENT] Apache Tomcat 4.1.3 Beta

2002-06-05 Thread Remy Maucherat

Apache Tomcat 4.1.3 Beta, the first beta release of the 4.1.x release cycle,
is now available.

Over Tomcat 4.0.x, Tomcat 4.1.x includes the following major new features:
* JMX based administration features
* JSP and Struts based administration web application
* New HTTP/1.1 connector
* New AJP 1.3 connector
* Rewritten Jasper JSP page compiler
* Performance and memory efficiency improvements
* Enhanced manager application support for integration with development
tools.
* Custom Ant tasks to interact with the manager application directly
  from build.xml scripts.
* Many other miscanellous improvements

Major changes over 4.1.2 include:
* Rewritten SSI servlet
* Ant based Jasper compiler
* Many administration webapp fixes
* Many other miscanellous fixes (see release notes for the complete list)

Downloads (source and binaries):
http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.1.3-beta/

Remy


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Job postings ?

2002-06-04 Thread Remy Maucherat

Hi,

Just wondering if posting Tomcat-specific job offers on the list is
acceptable, or if there is another place I could post that too (the
rationale would be to be able to hire someone with extensive Tomcat
knowledge, and even better someone already involved with the community).
Since there's now a Vendor page on the Jakarta website, maybe I could add
a Job Listings page :)

Comments ?

Remy


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Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation (fwd)

2002-03-22 Thread Remy Maucherat

 What we must do is make sure that all the libraries implementing JCP
 specs that we decide to use do get and pass their TCKs.

 That includes openJMX for tomcat, probably others ( openJMX is probably
 the most important for most server side projects ).

Yes indeed. The biggest problem with the agreement is that it is not
retroactive, and I don't see JMX in the retroactive list. Is the JMX TCK
going to be available anyway ?

BTW, OpenJMX = MX4J now.

Remy


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Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-07 Thread Remy Maucherat

 After some thinking, I'm going to accept the nomination, even
 if I don't quite believe jakarta needs 'management', 'committee' or
 any other function besides 'jakarta commiter'.

Lol. Sellout !
You're joining the establishment now !
;-)

I think I'll vote for you :)

Remy


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta-Meeting

2002-02-05 Thread Remy Maucherat

 I wonder how people would feel about moving the actual PMC business to
 another list, like Jakarta-Meeting. It's obvious that we need a General
 list for open discussions, but I believe that it would be appropriate to
 have a public list focussed on the business of the PMC, being oversight
 of the Jakarta codebase and its Web site.

 I bring this up now since I would like to know how the people nominated
 as candidates in the PMC elections feel about this.

Does this mean you're not interested in my opinion, as I haven't been
nominated ? ;-)

+1 if it's a public list (anyone can subscribe)
-1 if it's a private list

Remy


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Re: Jakarta PMC Nomination - Rejection

2002-02-01 Thread Remy Maucherat

 Hey all,

 I just wanted to say that I'm not going to accept my Jakarta PMC
nomination
 and do not want to be included in the voting for the next election.

 I have been involved with Java Apache/Jakarta since Sept 1996 and I think
 that it is time for me to move on from being politically responsible for
 this group. Honestly, I'm jaded and burned out on it all.

Your fireball made it look like you had a lot of extra energy left ;-)
Anyway, thanks for all the work.

 That said, I recently signed a 10 year lease on a prime event space in
 downtown San Francisco and I am moving towards spending more time being a
 big time night club owner than working on Jakarta. More info:
 http://www.studioz.tv/ (p.s. that site is built with Anakia smile)

Another famous OSS guy did that also (http://www.jwz.org/).
Are you guys starting a trend ? :)

 I also just released Scarab 1.0b1 and am focused primarily on making
Scarab
 the best issue tracking tool around. Expect to see more great developments
 on this project. It is by far, one of the best designed, largest and most
 complex pieces of software that I have ever had the pleasure of helping
 develop. It will be around for a very long time and will eventually put
 Bugzilla out of business. More info: http://scarab.tigris.org/

Scarab 1.0 at last !!! :)
I think we can start checking it out to replace Bugzilla with it eventually.
I'm sure Justy will volunteer to start playing with it on nagoya.

Remy


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Site update

2001-10-27 Thread Remy Maucherat

Hi,

When doing site updates, please don't forget to update before starting
editing. For example, Berin reverted many changes to the news and binary
pages.

Remy


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Re: Site update

2001-10-27 Thread Remy Maucherat

 On 10/27/01 4:27 PM, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi,
 
  When doing site updates, please don't forget to update before starting
  editing. For example, Berin reverted many changes to the news and binary
  pages.
 

 Shouldn't the cvs commit caught that on the merge?

Somehow, it didn't.

You can see the diff between 1.93 and 1.94 of the binary index page:

RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/binindex.xml,v
retrieving revision 1.93
retrieving revision 1.94
diff -r1.93 -r1.94
73,75c73,76
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-ant/release/v1.4.1/bin/;An
t 1.4.1/a/li
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-avalon/release/framework/v4
.0Avalon Framework 4.0/a/li
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-avalon/release/excalibur/v4
.0Avalon Excalibur 4.0/a/li
---
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-ant/release/v1.4/bin/;Ant
1.4/a/li
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-avalon/release/framework/v4
.0/Avalon Framework 4.0/a/li
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-avalon/release/excalibur/v4
.0/Avalon Excalibur 4.0/a/li
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-avalon/release/logkit/v1.0/
Avalon LogKit 1.0/a/li
87,88c88
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat/release/v3.3/bin/;T
omcat 3.3/a/li
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0.1/;
Tomcat 4.0.1/a/li
---
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0/;T
omcat 4.0/a/li
98c98
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-avalon/release/logkit/lates
t/Avalon LogKit 1.0 beta 5/a/li
---
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-ant/release/v1.4.1b1/;Ant
1.4.1 beta 1/a/li
100,101c100,102
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-lucene/release/v1.2-rc2/;L
ucene 1.2 Release Candidate 2/a/li
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-slide/release/1.0/;Slide
1.0.15 Beta/a/li
---
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-lucene/release/v1.2-rc1/;L
ucene 1.2 Release Candidate 1/a/li
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat/release/v3.3-rc1/bin
/Tomcat 3.3
 Release Candidate 1/a/li
118d118
 lia
href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-slide/nightly/;Slide/a/
li

So the affected links include Tomcat, Ant, Slide, Lucene.

Same happened to the news page.

Remy


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Re: [proposal] Jakarta Deprecation Policy

2001-05-16 Thread Remy Maucherat

 Well, there haven't been many flame wars around here recently, so let me
 start one. I seem to be good at that. :-)

 What I propose is that we take this document (or one similar to it) and
 migrate it up to the overall Jakarta Project instead of just being a
Turbine
 policy and get all the projects to sign their name on it.

 http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/deprecation.html

 I think it would go a long way towards raising awareness of the need to
 deprecate things (thanks to Sam starting this with Gump) as well as make
the
 corporate types feel more comfortable with regards to depending on that
 Open Source Software stuff...

 Comments?

+1.

My only comment : you should always be allowed any API change when you
change the major revision number, without a deprecation phase (for example,
I think it's ok if version 2.0, immediately following version 1.62, has a
different API).

Remy


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Jakarta FAQ

2001-04-12 Thread Remy Maucherat

Hi,

I'd like to get an account on the Jakarta FAQ.
I read what is there :
http://jakarta.apache.org:8080/jyve-faq/Turbine/screen/DisplayProjects
I talked with Alex, but apparently the account activation failed, and I
couldn't get in touch with him since.
Could one of the roots help me out ?
My login is remm.

Thanks,
Remy


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Re: New Subprojects

2001-03-22 Thread Remy Maucherat

 James House wrote:
 
  [...]
 
  Project 2: a Workflow Engine / Process Automator
  =
  Description:
 
  An engine for doing Workflow and Process Automation within or without a
J2EE
  application server.
 
  Desired Features:
 
  * I haven't put much thought into this yet, but I feel this is a real
need
  in the open source world unless someone can tell me of an existing one?
 
  In case you're not sure what I'm referring to, here's a product of BEA's
  that is similar to what I'm envisioning:
  http://www.bea.com/products/weblogic/integrator/datasheet.shtml
 
  Anyone interested in participating in either of these please contact me:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I think both projects sounds great and targets what you would want/need in
a bigger project.
 Having worked with products such as Infooffice, StoryServer, Interwoven I
have allot of input
 on how to make the second project and I would also like it to target
content management since
 the CMS products are generally a piece of shit that costs 80.000$ !! (i.e.
Interwoven).

 I'd love to get involved with both projects in which ever OpenSource
umbrella they end up
 under, and would like to see them under Jakarta.

I'm interested in a project like (2) for Slide, for the reasons mentioned by
Bip and others. Of course, since it's for embedding it into another product,
I don't need all the functionality of a generic workflow engine.

However, I have doubts that that kind of project can be started with only
general ideas. I think such a proposal should be made with a prototype
codebase and / or detailed design ideas.

Remy


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NNTP access

2001-03-12 Thread Remy Maucherat

Hi,

I was checking out netbeans, and I noticed on their news page that they now
had NNTP access to some of their mailing lists. Since netbeans.org is hosted
by collab.net, I was wondering if it would be possible to get something
similar for the apache.org mailing lists.

Remy



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Re: Nominations for the Jakata PMC

2001-02-26 Thread Remy Maucherat

Quoting Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 [  ] Peter Donald
 [  ] Diane Holt
 [  ] Ted Husted
 [  ] Ceki Glc
 [  ] Geir Magnusson Jr.
 [  ] Daniel F. Savarese
 [  ] Jason van Zyl

I'm a bit disappointed by that list, which doesn't include Costin. I'm starting 
to think that what he said a while ago (basically, that nobody here cares about 
code and contributions, and that it's all about politics) is really true after 
all.

IMHO, the best election process would be to let the committers submit a ballot 
containing the list of committers they want to have in the PMC. Then, just 
choose the 10 - 15 committers who got the most votes.

To voice my disapproval with the current process, I won't participate in the 
current ballot.

Remy

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