Re: Apache should join the open source java discussion

2004-03-18 Thread Serge Knystautas
Leo Simons wrote: Key ASF individuals are joining these discussions, on weblogs and various discussion forums. But the ASF as a whole is silent. In lieu of forming a statement for the ASF as a whole, what about organizing/encouraging/guiding people who want to participate? Maybe specific

Re: Apache should join the open source java discussion

2004-03-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Mar 18, 2004, at 8:16 AM, Leo Simons wrote: Something big is stirring in the java world. There's talks between Sun and IBM about releasing an open source version of java. There's talks between the linux desktop movers about adopting java as the glue that binds the major desktop projects

Re: Apache should join the open source java discussion

2004-03-18 Thread Danny Angus
What about starting by making sure Apache java projects _do_ work with the 2 open source JVMs that are mentioned in the article ? This is a fine idea, if we're bending the rules to the extent that our stuff won't run on any specifications compliant JVM we should address that, particularly

Re: Apache should join the open source java discussion

2004-03-18 Thread Leo Simons
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: the intention is to get involved snip/ really wanted to keep quiet about it, but your post brought this front and center. little did I know! See what happens when stuff happens on private mailing lists? Duplication of effort :-P I'll happily shut up, since you're

RE: Apache should join the open source java discussion

2004-03-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
What about starting by making sure Apache java projects _do_ work with the 2 open source JVMs that are mentioned in the article ? Which two? I've had a thought to try testing James under gcj at some point. RedHat has already done a whole bunch of Java-based Apache projects with gcj.

Re: Apache should join the open source java discussion

2004-03-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
sheepish I wasn't subscribed to community@ until now, so if there's something there that wasn't xposted to general@, let me know... /sheepish More inline : On Mar 18, 2004, at 11:21 AM, Leo Simons wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: the intention is to get involved snip/ really wanted to keep

Re: Apache should join the open source java discussion

2004-03-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Mar 18, 2004, at 11:06 AM, Costin Manolache wrote: Serge Knystautas wrote: Leo Simons wrote: Key ASF individuals are joining these discussions, on weblogs and various discussion forums. But the ASF as a whole is silent. In lieu of forming a statement for the ASF as a whole, what about

Re: Apache should join the open source java discussion

2004-03-18 Thread Costin Manolache
Noel J. Bergman wrote: What about starting by making sure Apache java projects _do_ work with the 2 open source JVMs that are mentioned in the article ? Which two? I've had a thought to try testing James under gcj at some point. RedHat has already done a whole bunch of Java-based Apache

RE: Apache should join the open source java discussion

2004-03-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
What about starting by making sure Apache java projects _do_ work with the 2 open source JVMs that are mentioned in the article ? Which two? I've had a thought to try testing James under gcj at some point. RedHat has already done a whole bunch of Java-based Apache projects with gcj. Well,