Re: SVN of ECS Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaBoardReport-September2004

2004-09-25 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 24 Sep 2004, at 10:48, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
I think that Robert is the best person to answer this. He is the main
responsibe developer of ECS. ;-)
developer implies ongoing development. minder would be more appropriate 
;)

ECS is still used in many production systems and solves the problems it 
addresses adequately but the questions have moved on since them. i'm 
still subscribed to the lists but my interests have lain elsewhere for 
several years now.

On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 22:56, Henri Yandell wrote:
+Robert Burrel Donkin has volunteered to migrate ECS over to SVN as 
a trial
migration.
it went a bit quiet after i made this offer. if there's interest, 
i'd be
willing to push this forward again.

Well, do we know who would be the one to accept the offer?
As far as I know, ECS doesn't really have a champion anymore.
I'd vote for Robert here.
i'm not sure i parse this exchange properly.
what's certainly true is that ECS has no committers on the pmc.
- robert
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Re: SVN of ECS Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaBoardReport-September2004

2004-09-24 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
I think that Robert is the best person to answer this. He is the main
responsibe developer of ECS. ;-) 

On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 22:56, Henri Yandell wrote:
  +Robert Burrel Donkin has volunteered to migrate ECS over to SVN as a trial 
  migration.
 
  it went a bit quiet after i made this offer. if there's interest, i'd be 
  willing to push this forward again.
 
 
 Well, do we know who would be the one to accept the offer?
 
 As far as I know, ECS doesn't really have a champion anymore.

I'd vote for Robert here. 

 
 It seems that the community in general would need to answer:
 
 1) Should we goto SVN (likely to be a big problem if we say no)?

Yes. Up to the projects to decide when they move. E.g. I hope to use the
CVS-SVN move for Turbine as a cleaning move for the project to reduce
the huge number of turbine CVS repositories.

 2) Should inactive projects (ECS, Watchdog, ...) goto SVN?

If they find someone that maintains them: yes.

 3) Any reason why ECS should not be the first to go?

No. +1 Go ahead. :-) 

Regards
Henning

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Re: SVN of ECS Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaBoardReport-September2004

2004-09-24 Thread Daniel F. Savarese

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Noel J. Bergman w
rites:
Done.

Thanks Noel!  I know these things are normally supposed to go through
infrastructure, but I thought I could test it out in the test repository
without troubling anyone first.  Everything looks good and doing the
conversion even helped me detect that at some point I'd checked in
html files for the Web site that had literal character values instead
of character entities like #169; in them.  I can regenerate those and
check them in the next time there's a release.  At any rate, if Henri
wants a guinea pig, he can send infrastructure a formal request to
convert jakarta-oro over to SVN.  The default cvs2svn values are fine.
e.g.,
  cvs2svn -v --dump-only --dumpfile=oro.svn.dump /home/cvs/jakarta-oro/
  svn mkdir https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/oro/
  svnadmin load --parent-dir jakarta/oro /x1/svn/asf  oro.svn.dump

Why oro instead of ECS?  Only because I jumped the gun with Noel's help
and tested the svn conversion.  ECS can always go next.

daniel



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Re: SVN of ECS Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaBoardReport-September2004

2004-09-22 Thread Daniel F. Savarese

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Henri Yandell writes:
Well, do we know who would be the one to accept the offer?

I made a dump of jakarta-oro in ~dfs/pub/oro.svn.dump.  I can't do
  svnadmin load --parent-dir jakarta-oro /x1/svn/test  oro.svn.dump
because you need to be in the svnadmin group.  If someone with appropriate
access wants to do the load feel free.  I think it's better to move to
svn sooner rather than later.

daniel



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RE: SVN of ECS Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaBoardReport-September2004

2004-09-22 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Daniel F. Savarese wrote:
 If someone with appropriate access wants to do the load feel free.

Done.

--- Noel

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SVN of ECS Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaBoardReport-September2004

2004-09-21 Thread Henri Yandell

+Robert Burrel Donkin has volunteered to migrate ECS over to SVN as a trial 
migration.
it went a bit quiet after i made this offer. if there's interest, i'd be 
willing to push this forward again.

Well, do we know who would be the one to accept the offer?
As far as I know, ECS doesn't really have a champion anymore.
It seems that the community in general would need to answer:
1) Should we goto SVN (likely to be a big problem if we say no)?
2) Should inactive projects (ECS, Watchdog, ...) goto SVN?
3) Any reason why ECS should not be the first to go?
My answers being:
1) Yes. I'm not the hugest fan of SVN, but my pains with it are largely 
server-side. I think we'll adapt to the different style of tagging, and 
the client-support is/will be good enough.
2) Yes, as they're not dead.
3) I can't see any.

Hen
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