Re: Apache Gump and Apache Portals

2004-02-28 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 27 Feb 2004, at 07:49, Stefan Bodewig wrote:

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, robert burrell donkin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
do the gump team plan to continue to use the jakarta announcement
mailing list or will they be creating a new list?
We'll have a [EMAIL PROTECTED] that takes over for
[EMAIL PROTECTED], at least this is the plan.
I don't think Gump has ever used the announce list at all and right
now we haven't asked for any announce list specific to Gump either.
well then, i'd say that announcing gump's graduation would be a good 
first announcement for project gump to send ;)

- robert

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Re: Apache Gump and Apache Portals

2004-02-26 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, robert burrell donkin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> do the gump team plan to continue to use the jakarta announcement
> mailing list or will they be creating a new list?

We'll have a [EMAIL PROTECTED] that takes over for
[EMAIL PROTECTED], at least this is the plan.

I don't think Gump has ever used the announce list at all and right
now we haven't asked for any announce list specific to Gump either.

You will all continue to get the nagging mails delivered to the
development lists. 8-)

Stefan

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Re: Apache Gump and Apache Portals

2004-02-26 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Tetsuya Kitahata" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >   - The Apache Gump Project will now oversee the development and
> > maintenance of the Apache Jakarta Gump project. Stefan Bodewig is
the
> > new Chair of this PMC.

[...]

> Just a note. Cheerio,

Not sure if this was meant to be 'cheerio' to the projects, or just at end
of the mail, but Gump is hoping not to say goodbye to this community.
Basically Gump wants (needs) an identity and community that is a superset of
Jakarta. Further, Gump is forging it's future (as an Java project
integrator) in Python, which contradicts line one of
http://jakarta.apache.org/.

These were what prompted the move, but Gump will still allow all Jakarta
committers to be Gump committers.

Further (and this ought be worded as a personal goal) I'd like to see all
Jakarta sub-projects within Gump's public workspaces & nightly integrations.
[Not quite sure how I measure/ensure such coverage, but that is a separate
matter for another day.]

What brought me to Gump was being a satisfied user of much of the impressive
software within Jakarta. I hope that Gump can continue serve this community,
so this community can continue to deliver a robust stack of highly
interoperable solutions (with minimal jar-hell discontinuities).

regards,

Adam


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Re: Apache Gump and Apache Portals

2004-02-26 Thread robert burrell donkin
do the gump team plan to continue to use the jakarta announcement 
mailing list or will they be creating a new list?

- robert

On 26 Feb 2004, at 22:30, Adam R. B. Jack wrote:

Tetsuya Kitahata" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  - The Apache Gump Project will now oversee the development and
maintenance of the Apache Jakarta Gump project. Stefan Bodewig is
the
new Chair of this PMC.
[...]

Just a note. Cheerio,
Not sure if this was meant to be 'cheerio' to the projects, or just at 
end
of the mail, but Gump is hoping not to say goodbye to this community.
Basically Gump wants (needs) an identity and community that is a 
superset of
Jakarta. Further, Gump is forging it's future (as an Java project
integrator) in Python, which contradicts line one of
http://jakarta.apache.org/.

These were what prompted the move, but Gump will still allow all 
Jakarta
committers to be Gump committers.

Further (and this ought be worded as a personal goal) I'd like to see 
all
Jakarta sub-projects within Gump's public workspaces & nightly 
integrations.
[Not quite sure how I measure/ensure such coverage, but that is a 
separate
matter for another day.]

What brought me to Gump was being a satisfied user of much of the 
impressive
software within Jakarta. I hope that Gump can continue serve this 
community,
so this community can continue to deliver a robust stack of highly
interoperable solutions (with minimal jar-hell discontinuities).

regards,

Adam

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Re: Apache Gump and Apache Portals

2004-02-26 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
> > Just a note. Cheerio,
> 
> Not sure if this was meant to be 'cheerio' to the projects, or just at end
> of the mail, but Gump is hoping not to say goodbye to this community.
> Basically Gump wants (needs) an identity and community that is a superset of
> Jakarta. Further, Gump is forging it's future (as an Java project
> integrator) in Python, which contradicts line one of
> http://jakarta.apache.org/.

Alas! ... Apologies, if you folks in Gump dev team felt offended...
(Needless to say, i just used that word at the end of mail!)

I think it that "Apache Gump" is tightly *related* to Apache Jakarta.

Congratulations, upon the "outgrowth" from Jakarta!

By the way,
if "Apache Forrest" will have its own PMC (TOP Level Project Status),
we will be able to see a quite funny thing

"HTTP Server"
"Ant"
..
"Forrest"
"Gump"
..

at the left-side menu on www.apache.org pages. :-) .. Alphabetical

Sincerely,

P.S. Gump -- is taking the highroad to success --
 Alexandria -> Jakarta -> TLP :)


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Apache Gump and Apache Portals

2004-02-25 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata

Perhaps you folks might have already heard ...

> * The Board established two new PMCs:
> 
>   - The Apache Gump Project will now oversee the development and
> maintenance of the Apache Jakarta Gump project. Stefan Bodewig is the
> new Chair of this PMC.
> 
>   - The Apache Portals Project will be pulling together a number of
> different ASF technologies that are used to create portals. Santiago
> Gala is the new project Chair.

Just a note. Cheerio,


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