Re: GMANE
Martin Cooper wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2005, David Smiley wrote: Hello all. I love using GMANE ( http://www.gmane.org ) to access mailing lists because: 1. one stop mailing-list shopping -- a consistent experience 2. NNTP access 3. easiest path to posting a question to a list that you're not a member of, examining the responses, and then leaving. IMHO, this is actually a reason to *not* provide a link to Gmane on our site, since it's anti-community, and community is what we are about. I think anti-community is not a good term to use here. IMHO, any user taking an interest in our libraries is A Good Thing, no matter how they interact. For many, gmane will be a good choice. We certainly should not give the impression of being insular and only accepting access by mailing list. One other point to bear in mind is that Gmane isn't the only service of its kind. I believe Roomity aspires to be another Gmane, and there are probably others. I'm not sure we want to be keeping pointers to all of them, and we shouldn't be picking favourites. ;-) This is probably a good reason not to have the link though. Stephen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GMANE
I agree with Martin (below) While we might not want to prevent people accessing our lists using these services the only *official* method is to subscribe. d. 3. easiest path to posting a question to a list that you're not a member of, examining the responses, and then leaving. IMHO, this is actually a reason to *not* provide a link to Gmane on our site, since it's anti-community, and community is what we are about. *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient) please notify us immediately on 0141 306 2050 and delete the message from your computer. You may not copy or forward it or use or disclose its contents to any other person. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption Student Loans Company Limited does not accept any responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice or opinions contained in an e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. Neither Student Loans Company Limited or the sender accepts any liability or responsibility for viruses as it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Opinions and views expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and may not reflect the opinions and views of The Student Loans Company Limit ed. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GMANE
Martin Cooper wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2005, David Smiley wrote: Hello all. I love using GMANE ( http://www.gmane.org ) to access mailing lists because: 1. one stop mailing-list shopping -- a consistent experience 2. NNTP access 3. easiest path to posting a question to a list that you're not a member of, examining the responses, and then leaving. IMHO, this is actually a reason to *not* provide a link to Gmane on our site, since it's anti-community, and community is what we are about. I don't think GMANE is anti-community, but I'll grant you that my #3 _use-case_ of newsgroups / GMANE is debatable. I can use GMANE to stay in touch with a community just as I can with mailing lists directly. I understand where you're coming from... but if I were to follow your principal strongly then I'd probably have no time to develop code since I'd be busy keeping up with at least a dozen communities. Your policy suggests one should have strong ties with a community (by being on the mailing list and presumably scanning it) or divorce themselves from it completely. I don't think your extreme is fair to those who want to be inbetween. A great reason for my use-case, I think, is a bug report. I don't want to become part of the community because I just have no time. But I do want to contribute a bug report and be a good user of the software. ~ David Smiley - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GMANE
On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 15:13 -0400, David Smiley wrote: Hello all. I love using GMANE ( http://www.gmane.org ) to access mailing lists because: 1. one stop mailing-list shopping -- a consistent experience 2. NNTP access 3. easiest path to posting a question to a list that you're not a member of, examining the responses, and then leaving. 4. emails for lists don't go into my mailbox; I don't want them there (I prefer NNTP) I think a mention of GMANE on Jakarta would be helpful for the community. This page could use it: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html (by the Archives section) And perhaps elsewhere; I don't know. if you think so then create a patch and contribute it though bugzilla :) - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GMANE
Hello all. I love using GMANE ( http://www.gmane.org ) to access mailing lists because: 1. one stop mailing-list shopping -- a consistent experience 2. NNTP access 3. easiest path to posting a question to a list that you're not a member of, examining the responses, and then leaving. 4. emails for lists don't go into my mailbox; I don't want them there (I prefer NNTP) I think a mention of GMANE on Jakarta would be helpful for the community. This page could use it: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html (by the Archives section) And perhaps elsewhere; I don't know. Thanks for listening. ~ David Smiley - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GMANE
On Thu, 1 Sep 2005, David Smiley wrote: Hello all. I love using GMANE ( http://www.gmane.org ) to access mailing lists because: 1. one stop mailing-list shopping -- a consistent experience 2. NNTP access 3. easiest path to posting a question to a list that you're not a member of, examining the responses, and then leaving. IMHO, this is actually a reason to *not* provide a link to Gmane on our site, since it's anti-community, and community is what we are about. One other point to bear in mind is that Gmane isn't the only service of its kind. I believe Roomity aspires to be another Gmane, and there are probably others. I'm not sure we want to be keeping pointers to all of them, and we shouldn't be picking favourites. ;-) -- Martin Cooper 4. emails for lists don't go into my mailbox; I don't want them there (I prefer NNTP) I think a mention of GMANE on Jakarta would be helpful for the community. This page could use it: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html (by the Archives section) And perhaps elsewhere; I don't know. Thanks for listening. ~ David Smiley - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
