RE: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation

2002-03-23 Thread Leo Simons
I'll break my "no-me-too-posts" rule for this occasion: > Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. > > Did I miss anyone? Great job, guys. Definately. Thanks. - Leo guess I can deinstall the .net development kit again...for now =) (and in the line of 'met too's --

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation (fwd)

2002-03-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Peter Donald wrote: > > On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 16:00, Jason Hunter wrote: > > Peter Donald wrote: > > > Wow this is absolutely fabulous - not what I expected to see - yea!!! > > > > > > If some one would bug them to include JMX in their "soon to be blessed" > > > list then everything that we do at A

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation (fwd)

2002-03-23 Thread costinm
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Remy Maucherat wrote: > > What we must do is make sure that all the libraries implementing JCP > > specs that we decide to use do get and pass their TCKs. > > > > That includes openJMX for tomcat, probably others ( openJMX is probably > > the most important for most server si

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation

2002-03-23 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> Sun offered slightly more than we required by granting a large budget > for TCK support when we only required binary access. Sun did this > because they felt support was essential for success, given the current > test suites and their design. It may be the first time I've seen Sun > give more

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation

2002-03-23 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 22:02, James Duncan Davidson wrote: > On 3/22/02 18:49, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I can tell you probably don't own a copy of Dr. Strangelove eh? > > Actually no, I never read it. Darn, I hate missing the inside jokes. :) > Its a Stanley Kubrick

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation (fwd)

2002-03-22 Thread Peter Donald
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 16:00, Jason Hunter wrote: > Peter Donald wrote: > > Wow this is absolutely fabulous - not what I expected to see - yea!!! > > > > If some one would bug them to include JMX in their "soon to be blessed" > > list then everything that we do at Apache would be legal - woooh! >

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation (fwd)

2002-03-22 Thread Jason Hunter
Peter Donald wrote: > > Wow this is absolutely fabulous - not what I expected to see - yea!!! > > If some one would bug them to include JMX in their "soon to be blessed" list > then everything that we do at Apache would be legal - woooh! I'll pass that on. -jh- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation

2002-03-22 Thread Jason Hunter
James Duncan Davidson wrote: > > On 3/22/02 14:50, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm still not going to open a bottle of champagne, we need to see that LOI > > in action, but it's definitely good news... > > I'm cautiously optimistic. The devil is in the details, but we've t

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation (fwd)

2002-03-22 Thread Remy Maucherat
> What we must do is make sure that all the libraries implementing JCP > specs that we decide to use do get and pass their TCKs. > > That includes openJMX for tomcat, probably others ( openJMX is probably > the most important for most server side projects ). Yes indeed. The biggest problem with t

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation

2002-03-22 Thread James Duncan Davidson
On 3/22/02 18:49, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can tell you probably don't own a copy of Dr. Strangelove eh? Actually no, I never read it. Darn, I hate missing the inside jokes. :) |* x180:james duncan davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] *| |* http://www.x18

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation

2002-03-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 21:49, James Duncan Davidson wrote: > On 3/22/02 18:15, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Wouldn't it be somewhat awkwardly amusing if they withdrew it right > > after JavaOne is finished then again... I have a sick sense of humor. > > It wouldn't be amus

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation

2002-03-22 Thread James Duncan Davidson
On 3/22/02 18:15, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wouldn't it be somewhat awkwardly amusing if they withdrew it right > after JavaOne is finished then again... I have a sick sense of humor. It wouldn't be amusing. It would simply result in Apache leaving the JCP. Then it would b

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation

2002-03-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 17:50, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > "GOMEZ Henri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'll wake up, i'll wake up. > > > > If it's not a joke or just a 'declaration d'intention' > > to be quickly forgotten later, it's a great success > > not only for ASF or OSS, but for Java communi

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation

2002-03-22 Thread James Duncan Davidson
On 3/22/02 14:55, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The real test for the "intent" will be to see JBoss getting their TCK to > validate their product. Unfortunately this is implicitely excluded > in the Sun response ( since it's an existing spec, not listed on their > 'commit' lis

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation

2002-03-22 Thread James Duncan Davidson
On 3/22/02 14:50, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm still not going to open a bottle of champagne, we need to see that LOI > in action, but it's definitely good news... I'm cautiously optimistic. The devil is in the details, but we've tried to communicate clearly that our positio

RE: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation

2002-03-22 Thread Marc Saegesser
umagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 4:51 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation > > > "GOMEZ Henri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'll wake up, i'll wa

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation (fwd)

2002-03-22 Thread Peter Donald
off the press: > > --- Forwarded Message > From: Harold Ogle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation: > > The Apache Software Foundat

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation (fwd)

2002-03-22 Thread costinm
the next spec of J2EE will be. Costin On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Daniel F. Savarese wrote: > > Hot off the press: > > --- Forwarded Message > From: Harold Ogle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation > To: [EMAIL PROT

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation

2002-03-22 Thread Pier Fumagalli
"GOMEZ Henri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll wake up, i'll wake up. > > If it's not a joke or just a 'declaration d'intention' > to be quickly forgotten later, it's a great success > not only for ASF or OSS, but for Java community. Folks... The kids you need to thank are here, and well-known

RE: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation

2002-03-22 Thread GOMEZ Henri
OTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:54 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation > > >This news is *huge*. We got what we wanted. > >Jason Hunter is the guy. > >-jon > >on 3/22/02 12:

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation

2002-03-22 Thread Kevin A. Burton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jon Scott Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This news is *huge*. We got what we wanted. Of course it is huge: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/03/22/2059242&mode=thread&tid=108 Hm... *really* cool. I guess I am still skeptical though. I

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2002-03-22 Thread acoliver
I need to read it a few times...but it sounds good. The devil will be in the details... "scholarship" is an interesting choice of words regarding TCKs but I can see how they might want to be selective. --- Begin Message --- JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation:

Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation

2002-03-22 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation: > > The Apache Software Foundation published a position statement summarizing its > concerns on the work in process to revise the JSPA.

JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation (fwd)

2002-03-22 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
Hot off the press: --- Forwarded Message From: Harold Ogle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation: The Apache Software Foundation published a po