Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Yes! In fact POI uses this to generate Record and Type classes from XML descriptors. You can't imagine how much typing this saves! Danny Angus wrote: Come on. Does anyone really *like* XSL? Actually after a lot of scepticism I now like XSLT. But like everything else it stinks if its

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002/12/18 9:19 PM, Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the point was that we also need people to review the commits and people to vote on the release. Thanks for volunteering. I don't know what final would mean - if bugs are found that affect projects using regexp ( like

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Sam Ruby
Various answers, in no particular order: This is a chairman's report. Typically, these appear after a time delay (once approved in a subsequent meeting) at http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html . I raised the issue about Tapestry in yesterday's board meeting. Jim Jagielski

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 18/12/02 19:00 Doug Bateman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeing clarification: Is Sam's post here the official report from the PMC, or a summary of a PMC report posted elsewhere? Looking at the news page, I see a summary for status of each individual project in Jakarta, but no summary of

RE: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Danny Angus
This is a chairman's report. Typically, these appear after a time delay (once approved in a subsequent meeting) at http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html . thats what I thought, but I don't see any recent jakarta ones. d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Sam Ruby
Danny Angus wrote: This is a chairman's report. Typically, these appear after a time delay (once approved in a subsequent meeting) at http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html . thats what I thought, but I don't see any recent jakarta ones. Bad, Jakarta chairman, bad. - Sam Ruby

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Costin Manolache
Jon Scott Stevens wrote: BTW - thanks for taking the time to fix the bugs in regexp, and congratulations to the jakarta-regexp team for completing the project ! :-) Thanks for being a complete idiot Costin. I meant it very seriously - I think every project should have a goal, and should

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002/12/19 8:04 AM, Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant it very seriously - I think every project should have a goal, and should eventually reach the goal in a finite amount of time. The fact that jakarta-regexp just works and has met its goals is a very positive thing. And

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Costin Manolache
Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 2002/12/19 8:04 AM, Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant it very seriously - I think every project should have a goal, and should eventually reach the goal in a finite amount of time. The fact that jakarta-regexp just works and has met its goals is a

RE: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread O'brien, Tim
Subject: Re: Jakarta PMC report Various answers, in no particular order: This is a chairman's report. Typically, these appear after a time delay (once approved in a subsequent meeting) at http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html . I raised the issue about Tapestry

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Yup, just like Tomcat 3...which should have reached its goal years ago. -jon The Andy theorem on general Apache Jakarta discussions continues to prove true (they all devolve into a rehash of the bad ol days of Tomcat 3.3/4)... Please don't take the bait guys... Pretty please? -Andy

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002/12/19 10:25 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Andy theorem on general Apache Jakarta discussions continues to prove true (they all devolve into a rehash of the bad ol days of Tomcat 3.3/4)... Please don't take the bait guys... Pretty please? -Andy Sorry, it is a

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
The point being that we seem to continue to do the same circle. We get people like Nicola who are similar to Costin in The Wall mindset and the same exact discussions go round and round just on different topics (ie: Maven vs. Centipede vs. Forrest vs. vs. vs. vs.). Okay. I'll bite I love

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Sam Ruby
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Come on. Does anyone really *like* XSL? I do. http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/jakarta-alexandria/proposal/gump/stylesheet/xref.xsl?rev=1.21content-type=text/plain - Sam Ruby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Not that this discussion has any useful point.. . But I adore the purpose and concepts behind XSLT, but I LOATHE the syntax. However, now that I know it, its not so bad. -Andy Sam Ruby wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Come on. Does anyone really *like* XSL? I do.

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Thursday, December 19, 2002, at 07:13 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Come on. Does anyone really *like* XSL? I do. I actually like the declarative model I sometimes have trouble in that processing syntax is not orthogonal to the syntax of what you are generally

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Thursday, December 19, 2002, at 07:13 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Come on. Does anyone really *like* XSL? I do. I actually like the declarative model I sometimes have trouble in that processing syntax is not orthogonal to the

Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-18 Thread Sam Ruby
The status report for Jakarta project is available at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html and http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/index.html. These summaries are community developed, monitored, and maintained. Feedback on their contents should be directed to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. I

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-18 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002/12/18 7:36 AM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Such codebases (for example, regexp) are heavily depended upon and so interwoven into the fabric of many Jakarta subprojects that it is hard to imagine removing then from the ASF despite the somewhat different community dynamic one sees

RE: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-18 Thread Ara Abrahamian
to put the proposal forward? Ara. -Original Message- From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jakarta PMC report The status report for Jakarta project is available at http

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-18 Thread Doug Bateman
Seeing clarification: Is Sam's post here the official report from the PMC, or a summary of a PMC report posted elsewhere? Looking at the news page, I see a summary for status of each individual project in Jakarta, but no summary of the status and growth of Jakarta as a whole. For example, PMC

RE: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-18 Thread Danny Angus
but no summary of the status and growth of Jakarta as a whole. Yeah, it might be nice to have an occasional State of the Nation address. I'm not really sure what one of those is, but I decided I'd better not say Queen's speech. d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
the proposal forward? Ara. -Original Message- From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jakarta PMC report The status report for Jakarta project is available at http://jakarta.apache.org

RE: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-18 Thread Costin Manolache
:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jakarta PMC report The status report for Jakarta project is available at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html and http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/index.html. These summaries are community developed, monitored

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-18 Thread Costin Manolache
Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 2002/12/18 7:36 AM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Such codebases (for example, regexp) are heavily depended upon and so interwoven into the fabric of many Jakarta subprojects that it is hard to imagine removing then from the ASF despite the somewhat

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-18 Thread Henri Yandell
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jakarta PMC report The status report for Jakarta project is available at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html and http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/index.html