RE: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 12:43 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: Ditto for Commons. I'm pretty sure most of them are outputting 1.2-compatible code from a 1.4 compiler. I'll also happily believe that that's not a perfect system :) I'm very sure that there are incompatibilities with bytecode outputted by the 1.4 compile which makes problems running it on 1.3. Because of that, at one point I built a Turbine release (2.3) with both 1.3 and 1.4 jars. The problem is documented in the Java bug database, but I'm not able to find a reference to it. There should be something about it on the turbine-dev archive around the time of the 2.3 release, but I don't know whether the archives work again. I've pointed to this problem a long time ago but it got largely ignored, mainly because everyone here seems to compile their jars themselves. But I did have the problem with maven (when I was still using 1.3 as my main platform) binary relases, which were built with JDK 1.4 (1.4.1 IIRC) and did not run on the Sun 1.3.1 JRE. IMHO this will get worse with 1.5. Regards Henning The only place I could imagine would have the 1.3 jars is either the nightly build (only Commons, and it doesn't afaik) or gump (does 1.4 and 1.5). I don't think Gump want to be responsible for released jars either, so currently I'd suspect it'll need a fair bit of effort/movement to get 1.3 jars created. Sorry, Hen On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Jose Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz wrote: Hello Will, and thank you very much for your time. Indeed no, it seems that there are some incompatibilities at the JVM level which means that not all 1.4 bytecode runs in 1.3 JVM. I have had to recompile turbine source and commons-configuration source only to be able to make my webapp run. As errors appears only during runtime, I wonder whether I could find jakarta's binaries compiled 1.3 for the more-or-less-fifty-libraries-I-use in order for not to recompile all of them. However it is true, no need to touch velocity; it works as it. Thanks, José -Message d'origine- De : Will Glass-Husain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mercredi 16 février 2005 17:56 À : Jakarta General List Objet : Re: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3 The byte code should be the same -- as long as the library doesn't use any JDK 1.4 specific libraries, it should work fine under 1.3. I can vouch this is fine for Velocity. WILL - Original Message - From: Jose Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:04 AM Subject: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3 Hello, I have a J2EE application built around Hibernate, Turbine, and Velocity, which I need to recompile to be able to run into a JDK1.3 environment. This implies recompiling several common libraries, as well as Turbine itself and other components. I have sear the mirrors but it seems that all the available apache jars are now compiled with JDK 1.4 My question is, is there any place to get (old) jars compiled with JDK1.3? Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you very much, José Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz P.D.: If this is not the right list to ask this question, sorry in advance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen INTERMETA GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]+49 9131 50 654 0 http://www.intermeta.de/ RedHat Certified Engineer -- Jakarta Turbine Development Linux, Java, perl, Solaris -- Consulting, Training, Engineering Now you can start with implementation and integration and do the requirements later. -- Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. Manfred Broy about the new german federal software development standard V-Model XT (found at http://de.biz.yahoo.com/050207/299/4en0t.html) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3
Yep. What do you think to the idea of using one of the ASF boxes as a build machine for releases? It'd have to have all JDK's on it, you'd do: jdk12 svn export ... build ... Also nice as it stops people releasing from their snadbox, which can often contain junk. We could ask Infra if such a box might exist. Hen On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 12:43 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: Ditto for Commons. I'm pretty sure most of them are outputting 1.2-compatible code from a 1.4 compiler. I'll also happily believe that that's not a perfect system :) I'm very sure that there are incompatibilities with bytecode outputted by the 1.4 compile which makes problems running it on 1.3. Because of that, at one point I built a Turbine release (2.3) with both 1.3 and 1.4 jars. The problem is documented in the Java bug database, but I'm not able to find a reference to it. There should be something about it on the turbine-dev archive around the time of the 2.3 release, but I don't know whether the archives work again. I've pointed to this problem a long time ago but it got largely ignored, mainly because everyone here seems to compile their jars themselves. But I did have the problem with maven (when I was still using 1.3 as my main platform) binary relases, which were built with JDK 1.4 (1.4.1 IIRC) and did not run on the Sun 1.3.1 JRE. IMHO this will get worse with 1.5. Regards Henning The only place I could imagine would have the 1.3 jars is either the nightly build (only Commons, and it doesn't afaik) or gump (does 1.4 and 1.5). I don't think Gump want to be responsible for released jars either, so currently I'd suspect it'll need a fair bit of effort/movement to get 1.3 jars created. Sorry, Hen On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Jose Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz wrote: Hello Will, and thank you very much for your time. Indeed no, it seems that there are some incompatibilities at the JVM level which means that not all 1.4 bytecode runs in 1.3 JVM. I have had to recompile turbine source and commons-configuration source only to be able to make my webapp run. As errors appears only during runtime, I wonder whether I could find jakarta's binaries compiled 1.3 for the more-or-less-fifty-libraries-I-use in order for not to recompile all of them. However it is true, no need to touch velocity; it works as it. Thanks, José -Message d'origine- De : Will Glass-Husain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mercredi 16 février 2005 17:56 À : Jakarta General List Objet : Re: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3 The byte code should be the same -- as long as the library doesn't use any JDK 1.4 specific libraries, it should work fine under 1.3. I can vouch this is fine for Velocity. WILL - Original Message - From: Jose Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:04 AM Subject: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3 Hello, I have a J2EE application built around Hibernate, Turbine, and Velocity, which I need to recompile to be able to run into a JDK1.3 environment. This implies recompiling several common libraries, as well as Turbine itself and other components. I have sear the mirrors but it seems that all the available apache jars are now compiled with JDK 1.4 My question is, is there any place to get (old) jars compiled with JDK1.3? Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you very much, José Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz P.D.: If this is not the right list to ask this question, sorry in advance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen INTERMETA GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]+49 9131 50 654 0 http://www.intermeta.de/ RedHat Certified Engineer -- Jakarta Turbine Development Linux, Java, perl, Solaris -- Consulting, Training, Engineering Now you can start with implementation and integration and do the requirements later. -- Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. Manfred Broy about the new german federal software development standard V-Model XT (found at http://de.biz.yahoo.com/050207/299/4en0t.html) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional
Re: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3
The problem occurs when a new method is added to a common class StringBuffer.append(Object) was in early JDKs StringBuffer.append (StringBuffer) was added later If you compile under the later JDKs it uses the second method. Run that bytecode on an earlier JDK and it fails. Thats why I always build the commons/joda jars that I release under JDK1.3, and try to ensure that that jar file is included in the binary, source and ibiblio didstributions (ie. don't use maven to create upload bundles to the ibiblio repository) Stephen - Original Message - From: Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 12:43 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: Ditto for Commons. I'm pretty sure most of them are outputting 1.2-compatible code from a 1.4 compiler. I'll also happily believe that that's not a perfect system :) I'm very sure that there are incompatibilities with bytecode outputted by the 1.4 compile which makes problems running it on 1.3. Because of that, at one point I built a Turbine release (2.3) with both 1.3 and 1.4 jars. The problem is documented in the Java bug database, but I'm not able to find a reference to it. There should be something about it on the turbine-dev archive around the time of the 2.3 release, but I don't know whether the archives work again. I've pointed to this problem a long time ago but it got largely ignored, mainly because everyone here seems to compile their jars themselves. But I did have the problem with maven (when I was still using 1.3 as my main platform) binary relases, which were built with JDK 1.4 (1.4.1 IIRC) and did not run on the Sun 1.3.1 JRE. IMHO this will get worse with 1.5. Regards Henning The only place I could imagine would have the 1.3 jars is either the nightly build (only Commons, and it doesn't afaik) or gump (does 1.4 and 1.5). I don't think Gump want to be responsible for released jars either, so currently I'd suspect it'll need a fair bit of effort/movement to get 1.3 jars created. Sorry, Hen On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Jose Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz wrote: Hello Will, and thank you very much for your time. Indeed no, it seems that there are some incompatibilities at the JVM level which means that not all 1.4 bytecode runs in 1.3 JVM. I have had to recompile turbine source and commons-configuration source only to be able to make my webapp run. As errors appears only during runtime, I wonder whether I could find jakarta's binaries compiled 1.3 for the more-or-less-fifty-libraries-I-use in order for not to recompile all of them. However it is true, no need to touch velocity; it works as it. Thanks, José -Message d'origine- De : Will Glass-Husain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mercredi 16 février 2005 17:56 À : Jakarta General List Objet : Re: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3 The byte code should be the same -- as long as the library doesn't use any JDK 1.4 specific libraries, it should work fine under 1.3. I can vouch this is fine for Velocity. WILL - Original Message - From: Jose Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:04 AM Subject: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3 Hello, I have a J2EE application built around Hibernate, Turbine, and Velocity, which I need to recompile to be able to run into a JDK1.3 environment. This implies recompiling several common libraries, as well as Turbine itself and other components. I have sear the mirrors but it seems that all the available apache jars are now compiled with JDK 1.4 My question is, is there any place to get (old) jars compiled with JDK1.3? Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you very much, José Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz P.D.: If this is not the right list to ask this question, sorry in advance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen INTERMETA GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]+49 9131 50 654 0 http://www.intermeta.de/ RedHat Certified Engineer -- Jakarta Turbine Development Linux, Java, perl, Solaris -- Consulting, Training, Engineering Now you can start with implementation and integration and do the requirements later. -- Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. Manfred Broy about the new german federal software development standard V-Model XT (found at http://de.biz.yahoo.com/050207
Re: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3
http://sourceforge.net/projects/retroweaver It works like magic. There are some 1.5 jars I wanted and this just fixes it. .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3
The byte code should be the same -- as long as the library doesn't use any JDK 1.4 specific libraries, it should work fine under 1.3. I can vouch this is fine for Velocity. WILL - Original Message - From: Jose Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:04 AM Subject: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3 Hello, I have a J2EE application built around Hibernate, Turbine, and Velocity, which I need to recompile to be able to run into a JDK1.3 environment. This implies recompiling several common libraries, as well as Turbine itself and other components. I have sear the mirrors but it seems that all the available apache jars are now compiled with JDK 1.4 My question is, is there any place to get (old) jars compiled with JDK1.3? Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you very much, José Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz P.D.: If this is not the right list to ask this question, sorry in advance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3
Hello Will, and thank you very much for your time. Indeed no, it seems that there are some incompatibilities at the JVM level which means that not all 1.4 bytecode runs in 1.3 JVM. I have had to recompile turbine source and commons-configuration source only to be able to make my webapp run. As errors appears only during runtime, I wonder whether I could find jakarta's binaries compiled 1.3 for the more-or-less-fifty-libraries-I-use in order for not to recompile all of them. However it is true, no need to touch velocity; it works as it. Thanks, José -Message d'origine- De : Will Glass-Husain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mercredi 16 février 2005 17:56 À : Jakarta General List Objet : Re: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3 The byte code should be the same -- as long as the library doesn't use any JDK 1.4 specific libraries, it should work fine under 1.3. I can vouch this is fine for Velocity. WILL - Original Message - From: Jose Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:04 AM Subject: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3 Hello, I have a J2EE application built around Hibernate, Turbine, and Velocity, which I need to recompile to be able to run into a JDK1.3 environment. This implies recompiling several common libraries, as well as Turbine itself and other components. I have sear the mirrors but it seems that all the available apache jars are now compiled with JDK 1.4 My question is, is there any place to get (old) jars compiled with JDK1.3? Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you very much, José Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz P.D.: If this is not the right list to ask this question, sorry in advance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3
Ditto for Commons. I'm pretty sure most of them are outputting 1.2-compatible code from a 1.4 compiler. I'll also happily believe that that's not a perfect system :) The only place I could imagine would have the 1.3 jars is either the nightly build (only Commons, and it doesn't afaik) or gump (does 1.4 and 1.5). I don't think Gump want to be responsible for released jars either, so currently I'd suspect it'll need a fair bit of effort/movement to get 1.3 jars created. Sorry, Hen On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Jose Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz wrote: Hello Will, and thank you very much for your time. Indeed no, it seems that there are some incompatibilities at the JVM level which means that not all 1.4 bytecode runs in 1.3 JVM. I have had to recompile turbine source and commons-configuration source only to be able to make my webapp run. As errors appears only during runtime, I wonder whether I could find jakarta's binaries compiled 1.3 for the more-or-less-fifty-libraries-I-use in order for not to recompile all of them. However it is true, no need to touch velocity; it works as it. Thanks, José -Message d'origine- De : Will Glass-Husain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mercredi 16 février 2005 17:56 À : Jakarta General List Objet : Re: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3 The byte code should be the same -- as long as the library doesn't use any JDK 1.4 specific libraries, it should work fine under 1.3. I can vouch this is fine for Velocity. WILL - Original Message - From: Jose Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:04 AM Subject: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3 Hello, I have a J2EE application built around Hibernate, Turbine, and Velocity, which I need to recompile to be able to run into a JDK1.3 environment. This implies recompiling several common libraries, as well as Turbine itself and other components. I have sear the mirrors but it seems that all the available apache jars are now compiled with JDK 1.4 My question is, is there any place to get (old) jars compiled with JDK1.3? Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you very much, José Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz P.D.: If this is not the right list to ask this question, sorry in advance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3
Hello again, Just wanted to know if it did exist, not to discover after three weeks of recompiling that jars where already somewhere. If not, no big deal. Thanks, José -Message d'origine- De : Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mercredi 16 février 2005 18:43 À : Jakarta General List Objet : RE: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3 Ditto for Commons. I'm pretty sure most of them are outputting 1.2-compatible code from a 1.4 compiler. I'll also happily believe that that's not a perfect system :) The only place I could imagine would have the 1.3 jars is either the nightly build (only Commons, and it doesn't afaik) or gump (does 1.4 and 1.5). I don't think Gump want to be responsible for released jars either, so currently I'd suspect it'll need a fair bit of effort/movement to get 1.3 jars created. Sorry, Hen On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Jose Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz wrote: Hello Will, and thank you very much for your time. Indeed no, it seems that there are some incompatibilities at the JVM level which means that not all 1.4 bytecode runs in 1.3 JVM. I have had to recompile turbine source and commons-configuration source only to be able to make my webapp run. As errors appears only during runtime, I wonder whether I could find jakarta's binaries compiled 1.3 for the more-or-less-fifty-libraries-I-use in order for not to recompile all of them. However it is true, no need to touch velocity; it works as it. Thanks, José -Message d'origine- De : Will Glass-Husain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mercredi 16 février 2005 17:56 À : Jakarta General List Objet : Re: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3 The byte code should be the same -- as long as the library doesn't use any JDK 1.4 specific libraries, it should work fine under 1.3. I can vouch this is fine for Velocity. WILL - Original Message - From: Jose Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:04 AM Subject: Jakarta jars binaries for JDK 1.3 Hello, I have a J2EE application built around Hibernate, Turbine, and Velocity, which I need to recompile to be able to run into a JDK1.3 environment. This implies recompiling several common libraries, as well as Turbine itself and other components. I have sear the mirrors but it seems that all the available apache jars are now compiled with JDK 1.4 My question is, is there any place to get (old) jars compiled with JDK1.3? Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you very much, José Alberto Rodriguez Ruiz P.D.: If this is not the right list to ask this question, sorry in advance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
