RE: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-11 Thread GOMEZ Henri
I agree - using the compiler to detect errors is such a stupid idea. Real programmers dont need that. Real programmers don't use compilers... java is compiled whereas JavaScript is interpreted. May be we should relax your affirmation ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-10 Thread Peter Donald
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:07, Daniel Rall wrote: Ceki Glc [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People who repeatedly forget to type this represent a minority and should perhaps look to exercise a different profession. Agreed. I agree - using the compiler to detect errors is such a stupid idea. Real

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/10/02 2:54 AM, Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:07, Daniel Rall wrote: Ceki Glc [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People who repeatedly forget to type this represent a minority and should perhaps look to exercise a different profession. Agreed. I agree - using

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-10 Thread Peter Donald
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:59, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 1/10/02 2:54 AM, Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:07, Daniel Rall wrote: Ceki Glc [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People who repeatedly forget to type this represent a minority and should perhaps look to

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-10 Thread Peter Donald
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 22:16, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 1/10/02 6:11 AM, Stephane Bailliez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [...] Real programmers don't use compilers... It looks like there were needs for some

RE: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-10 Thread Sam Ruby
Stephane Bailliez wrote: I can understand why: public void setSomething(Object something){ something = something; } Another solution is public void setSomething(Object something) { this.something = something; } - Sam Ruby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-10 Thread Berin Loritsch
Sam Ruby wrote: Stephane Bailliez wrote: I can understand why: public void setSomething(Object something){ something = something; } Another solution is public void setSomething(Object something) { this.something = something; } Just beware of this bug: public void

RE: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-10 Thread Conor MacNeill
From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Just beware of this bug: public void setSomething(Object somthing) { // something misspelled this.something = something; } Don't you use a spell checker on your code? Actually this problem is one reason why it is better to use single

RE: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-10 Thread Paulo Gaspar
to similar spellings and misspellings and so. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:26 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: More abuse of coding styles... Sam Ruby wrote: Stephane

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-09 Thread Daniel Rall
Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Erik Hatcher wrote: Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:27:52 -0500 From: Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: More abuse of coding

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-09 Thread Daniel Rall
Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People who repeatedly forget to type this represent a minority and should perhaps look to exercise a different profession. Agreed. The problem with public void setSomething(Object something){ this.something = something; } is public void

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-09 Thread Micael Padraig Og mac Grene
At 07:07 PM 1/9/02 -0800, you wrote: Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People who repeatedly forget to type this represent a minority and should perhaps look to exercise a different profession. Agreed. The problem with public void setSomething(Object something){ this.something

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-05 Thread Peter Donald
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:26, Steve Downey wrote: Your javac has a configuration setting for the class names of inner classes? Although the inner classes use a $ embedded, rather than as a lead character. It's a similar issue. And whats that got to do with the price of fish? $ is not valid in

RE: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-05 Thread Steve Downey
-Original Message- From: Peter Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 9:53 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: More abuse of coding styles... On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:26, Steve Downey wrote: Your javac has a configuration setting for the class

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/5/02 11:22 PM, Steve Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In what way does it make it acceptable for them to write poor code? For example, the JSP spec reserves _jsp, jsp, _jspx and jspx for identifiers used in the classes generated by the page compiler. What other way do you propose to

RE: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-04 Thread Kief Morris
Stephane Bailliez typed the following on 09:42 AM 1/4/2002 + We had that discussion once on Commons, and many people liked the underscore convention. I can understand why: public void setSomething(Object something){ something = something; } It is one of my major source of error

RE: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-04 Thread Stephane Bailliez
-Original Message- From: Kief Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] It is one of my major source of error when not using the '_' and I have seen the error several times along with variable naming gymnastics to avoid the this. people would use aSomething or

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/4/02 3:48 AM, Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: | It is amazing to me...with all the discussion about coding styles and | following them, we still have people committing code that doesn't follow | what rules we do have... | | on

RE: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-04 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 10:44 04.01.2002 +, you wrote: -Original Message- From: Kief Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] It is one of my major source of error when not using the '_' and I have seen the error several times along with variable naming gymnastics to avoid the this. people would use

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-04 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Hey Jon, It is not amazing. It is normal. The paragraph that you quoted says: All Java Language source code in the repository must be written in conformance to the Code Conventions for the Java Programming Language as published by Sun. However, some projects may decide to override

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-04 Thread Ted Husted
As a point of order: The use of this is recommended by the Elements of Java Style, which is cited in the Commons charter. Though, I have myself been victimized by the trap Ceki mentions. -Ted. Ceki Gülcü wrote: People who repeatedly forget to type this represent a minority and should

RE: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-04 Thread Stephane Bailliez
-Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [...] People who repeatedly forget to type this represent a minority and should perhaps look to exercise a different profession. The problem You are right, but I think you know perfectly what kind of horrors you can find

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-04 Thread Bob Jamison
Jon Scott Stevens wrote: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.html All Java Language source code in the repository must be written in conformance to the Code Conventions for the Java Programming Language as published by Sun. -jon Sun ? ;-) I thought it was agreed a long time ago that

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-04 Thread robert burrell donkin
i'd just like to point out that i didn't write that bit of code (but neither did i correct it). personally speaking, i'm not going to risk having patches vetoed because i try to correct the original author's coding style. any committer who has the time and energy to fight is very welcome to

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-04 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 1/4/02 8:05 AM, Bob Jamison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jakarta.apache.org != Sun That isn't the comparison that we are making here. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-04 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 10:35 04.01.2002 -0800, you wrote: on 1/4/02 3:28 AM, Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All Java Language source code in the repository must be written in conformance to the Code Conventions for the Java Programming Language as published by Sun. However, some projects may decide to

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-04 Thread Erik Hatcher
PM Subject: Re: More abuse of coding styles... i'd just like to point out that i didn't write that bit of code (but neither did i correct it). personally speaking, i'm not going to risk having patches vetoed because i try to correct the original author's coding style. any committer who has

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-04 Thread Peter Donald
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 03:19, Steve Downey wrote: http://java.sun.com/docs/codeconv/html/CodeConventions.doc8.html#367 | Variable names should not start with underscore _ or dollar sign $ | characters, even though both are allowed. The _instanceVariable and also the __staticVariable idea

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-04 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Erik Hatcher wrote: Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:27:52 -0500 From: Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: More abuse of coding styles... Rule #1 from The Elements of Java