RE: RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-25 Thread Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
From an outsider's perspective, you probably need a new proposal. Un saludo, Alex. -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: jueves 25 de abril de 2002 3:06 Para: Jakarta General List Asunto: RE: RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb So, I'm

RE: RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-25 Thread Leo Simons
So, I'm kind of curious what the general consensus is regarding this. Seems to be in various directions. I think JDBC should be a lot better; it should incorporate all the features of CrossDB (though maybe a little different), and some more. Then there should be higher-level tools like

RE: RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-25 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Put [VOTE] in the subject tag and you'll get a definitive answer. (I'm not sure you'll like it) Otherwise you'll get just discussion. Might want to give http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html another gander. Furthermore, you've gotten pretty definitive feedback from some folks on here.

RE: RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread travis
So, I'm kind of curious what the general consensus is regarding this. Seems to be in various directions. Travis Original Message From: Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2002-04-24 To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb From:

RE: Re: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-22 Thread dion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 22/04/2002 03:59:43 PM: Actually Jon, Torque and crossdb are quite a bit different. Torque is pre generated and requires some preliminary setup and doesn't deal with SQL statements directly. Whereas crossdb is on the fly and is an object oriented way of

RE: Re: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-22 Thread travis
For dbs without an auto_inc feature, that db implementation would ignore this or handle it accordingly. Up to that implementation. Travis Original Message From: Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2002-04-22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Subproject

RE: RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-22 Thread travis
Thanks Leo, I couldn't have answered this better myself. ;-) Travis Original Message From: Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2002-04-22 To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb I never said they were the same. I said that crossdb is a

RE: Re: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-22 Thread travis
I'm not sure what all the fuss is about here, but the fact of the matter is that if you were to do a survey of developers using databases (SQL), my guess is that you would find that the majority probably still use hard sql statements. A lot of people don't see the need to use a high level

RE: Re: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-22 Thread Michael A. Smith
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jon, are you a bitter man? ;-) This should answer your question: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html (yes, I know it was rhetorical) regards, michael Travis Original Message From: Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: Re: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-22 Thread travis
Well it's beyond a starting project and it works and people use it. For what it's for, it works good. Travis Original Message From: Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2002-04-22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Subproject Proposal - crossdb on 4/22/02

RE: Re: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-22 Thread travis
lol. nice. Travis Original Message From: Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2002-04-22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Subproject Proposal - crossdb on 4/22/02 4:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll buy that. I know that when I first

RE: Re: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-22 Thread travis
I think as a sub-project of Torque is probably a good idea taking into consideration all the conversation in regards to this. On the one hand, you have the high level OR concept which should be used, should being the important term here. But on the other hand, a person should be able to use

RE: Re: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-21 Thread travis
Actually Jon, Torque and crossdb are quite a bit different. Torque is pre generated and requires some preliminary setup and doesn't deal with SQL statements directly. Whereas crossdb is on the fly and is an object oriented way of creating SQL statements that are database independent.