Re: news@jakarta list? (Re: Introducing Enterprise Object Broker)

2002-03-08 Thread Alex McLintock

 --- Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I think the original suggestion of [EMAIL PROTECTED] was fine. 
 
 It is not mysterious or hard to remember, and most of the OT threads
 around here are generated by some type of news item. 
 
 -Ted.
 

I can easily set up a slashcode site specifically for Apache news if you like.
Wait a minute - I've done one already



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Re: news@jakarta list? (Re: Introducing Enterprise Object Broker)

2002-03-08 Thread Santiago Gala

Jeff Turner wrote:

On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 06:03:21PM +, Pier Fumagalli wrote:

Paul Hammant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Folks,

Enterprise Object Broker (EOB) is an application server that tries to a
be a simpler EJB container.  It is not complete yet, but we have many
demos showing local, remote, and webapp usage.

Ok. Will we all stop using general@jakarta for advertisement of things which
are NOT ASF related? Thankyou...


Then could we perhaps have a news@jakarta list for this sort of thing? A
lot of people find announcements like this relevant and interesting.

On a related (technological) note:

We Jetspeed people (actually Raphael Lutta) put one year ago RSS 
channels, for our own purposes of showing them in the demo Jetspeed setup:

http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/channels/apache.ocs is an Open 
Content Syndication feed
http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/channels/jetspeed.rss is a channel 
for Jetspeed
http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/channels/turbine.rss is a channel for 
turbine

The RSS mechanism could be easily used for news and content syndication 
@apache. Channels can be added, generated, etc. for different projects 
or activities, and used for dynamic linking to apache news from outside 
the web site.


How is it different from freshmeat? It's that 'community' thing Stefano
goes on about. People have established webs of trust here. EOB is by
Apache people, using Apache code, and that makes it *relevant*.


--Jeff

Pier



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News, RSS, blogs, Cocoon (Re: news@jakarta list?)

2002-03-08 Thread Jeff Turner

On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 12:00:11PM +0100, Santiago Gala wrote:
...
 Then could we perhaps have a news@jakarta list for this sort of thing? A
 lot of people find announcements like this relevant and interesting.
 
 On a related (technological) note:
 
 We Jetspeed people (actually Raphael Lutta) put one year ago RSS 
 channels, for our own purposes of showing them in the demo Jetspeed setup:
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/channels/apache.ocs is an Open 
 Content Syndication feed
 http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/channels/jetspeed.rss is a channel 
 for Jetspeed
 http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/channels/turbine.rss is a channel for 
 turbine
 
 The RSS mechanism could be easily used for news and content syndication 
 @apache. Channels can be added, generated, etc. for different projects 
 or activities, and used for dynamic linking to apache news from outside 
 the web site.

Sounds nice. Is this demo Jetspeed setup actually live somewhere?

Adding some weblogs as newsfeeds would be good too. Weblogs are
wonderful things. Have a look at http://www.need-a-cake.com/

Any JAMES people lurking here? Would it be possible to rig up a mailet
that wraps incoming posts in XML and makes them available as an RSS feed?
That way we could have an easy-to-use news submission process.

FYI (for those who weren't aware), there's a new xml-forrest project
project at xml.apache.org, specifically for things like this.

Another FYI for Jetspeed people: Cocoon is very much encroaching on your
portal turf ;) See
http://www.need-a-cake.com/stories/2002/02/14/cocoonPortalFirstLook.html


--Jeff

(idling.. friday evening..)


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Re: news@jakarta list? (Re: Introducing Enterprise Object Broker)

2002-03-08 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Jeff Turner wrote:
 
  Then could we perhaps have a news@jakarta list for this sort of thing? A
  lot of people find announcements like this relevant and interesting.
 
 +1  as I like those messages - but general@ should be kept clean
 and lean for jakarta projects and asf code mostly.

+1 as well.

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  able to give birth to a dancing star.
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Re: News, RSS, blogs, Cocoon (Re: news@jakarta list?)

2002-03-08 Thread Santiago Gala

Jeff Turner wrote:

On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 12:00:11PM +0100, Santiago Gala wrote:
...

Then could we perhaps have a news@jakarta list for this sort of thing? A
lot of people find announcements like this relevant and interesting.

On a related (technological) note:

We Jetspeed people (actually Raphael Lutta) put one year ago RSS 
channels, for our own purposes of showing them in the demo Jetspeed setup:

http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/channels/apache.ocs is an Open 
Content Syndication feed
http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/channels/jetspeed.rss is a channel 
for Jetspeed
http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/channels/turbine.rss is a channel for 
turbine

The RSS mechanism could be easily used for news and content syndication 
@apache. Channels can be added, generated, etc. for different projects 
or activities, and used for dynamic linking to apache news from outside 
the web site.


Sounds nice. Is this demo Jetspeed setup actually live somewhere?

I have a copy running at

http://hisitech.com/jetspeed/ (rather out of date, and messed up by 
hundreds of people customizing layout).
David Taylor uses to have one around http://bluesunrise.com/jetspeed

There are portals using Jetspeed around (see 
http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/site/usejetspeed.html), but most use 
their own feeds.


Adding some weblogs as newsfeeds would be good too. Weblogs are
wonderful things. Have a look at http://www.need-a-cake.com/

Any JAMES people lurking here? Would it be possible to rig up a mailet
that wraps incoming posts in XML and makes them available as an RSS feed?
That way we could have an easy-to-use news submission process.

FYI (for those who weren't aware), there's a new xml-forrest project
project at xml.apache.org, specifically for things like this.

I knew this one.


Another FYI for Jetspeed people: Cocoon is very much encroaching on your
portal turf ;) See
http://www.need-a-cake.com/stories/2002/02/14/cocoonPortalFirstLook.html

I know. Further, cocoon and Jetspeed people should team together to 
ensure that Sun's JSR#168 standardizes around a reasonable Portlet API 
specification, specially WRT SAX stream portlets, so that Cocoon can 
implement a portlet container respecting the standard and using Cocoons 
streaming capabilities at the same time. Jetspeed will be conformant to 
the ByteStream or SAX stream API rather easily, and at due time, using 
jsp and/or Velocity.



--Jeff

(idling.. friday evening..)


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Re: news@jakarta list? (Re: Introducing Enterprise Object Broker)

2002-03-07 Thread dirkx



On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Jeff Turner wrote:

 Then could we perhaps have a news@jakarta list for this sort of thing? A
 lot of people find announcements like this relevant and interesting.

+1  as I like those messages - but general@ should be kept clean
and lean for jakarta projects and asf code mostly.

Dw


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Re: news@jakarta

2002-03-07 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

On 3/7/02 4:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Or call it usefull-tidbits or something :-), gossip@, watercooler@,
 the-bar@, coffeshop@, wathever ;-) Something clearly meant for
 out of scope things.
 

How about 'ot@'

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RE: news@jakarta

2002-03-07 Thread Danny Angus

Or.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. leave those notes you're not sure if
anyone reads or not.

 -Original Message-
 From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:53 PM
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Re: news@jakarta


 On 3/7/02 4:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Or call it usefull-tidbits or something :-), gossip@, watercooler@,
  the-bar@, coffeshop@, wathever ;-) Something clearly meant for
  out of scope things.
 

 How about 'ot@'

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Re: news@jakarta list? (Re: Introducing Enterprise Object Broker)

2002-03-07 Thread Ted Husted

I think the original suggestion of [EMAIL PROTECTED] was fine. 

It is not mysterious or hard to remember, and most of the OT threads
around here are generated by some type of news item. 

-Ted.


Jeff Turner wrote:
 
 On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 06:03:21PM +, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
  Paul Hammant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Folks,
  
   Enterprise Object Broker (EOB) is an application server that tries to a
   be a simpler EJB container.  It is not complete yet, but we have many
   demos showing local, remote, and webapp usage.
 
  Ok. Will we all stop using general@jakarta for advertisement of things which
  are NOT ASF related? Thankyou...
 
 Then could we perhaps have a news@jakarta list for this sort of thing? A
 lot of people find announcements like this relevant and interesting.
 
 How is it different from freshmeat? It's that 'community' thing Stefano
 goes on about. People have established webs of trust here. EOB is by
 Apache people, using Apache code, and that makes it *relevant*.
 
 --Jeff
 
  Pier
 
 
 
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RE: news@jakarta

2002-03-07 Thread Paulo Gaspar

 ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...

I sure like this one!
=:o)

Paulo


 -Original Message-
 From: Danny Angus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:28 PM
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: RE: news@jakarta
 
 
 Or.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. leave those notes you're 
 not sure if
 anyone reads or not.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:53 PM
  To: Jakarta General List
  Subject: Re: news@jakarta
 
 
  On 3/7/02 4:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   Or call it usefull-tidbits or something :-), gossip@, watercooler@,
   the-bar@, coffeshop@, wathever ;-) Something clearly meant for
   out of scope things.
  
 
  How about 'ot@'
 
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