Re: XML Graphics Project Forrest=CMS migration

2012-10-24 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Thanks Clay, this is taking good shape.

Some time ago you mentioned that it would be easy to move the sidenav
back to the left if necessary. I think that would be a good thing
because the vast majority of websites put it to the left, so that’s what
users are accustomed to and expect. Would that be possible?

Also, we don’t seem to receive notifications of changes to the website
(like those ‘svn commit’ messages we received for code changes). Instead
we receive commit notifications for the updates of the generated HTML
pages.

In Forrest terms, it’s as if we were receiving notifications for updates
to the website (the ‘Publish from forrestbot’ messages) instead of the
changes to the xdoc sources.

This would be more useful if we could receive notifications for changes
to the Markdown sources.

Do you have any idea of whether this is achievable?

Thanks for all your efforts so far!

Vincent


On 24/10/12 05:45, The Web Maestro wrote:
 I've resolved a few issues:
 - fixing header trailing '#' issue and cleaning up anchor tags
 - updating XML Graphics, Batik  FOP Home page TITLE tag
 - Changing h1 Apache(tm) to Apache™
 - changing plethora of markdown 'h1' tags to 'h2' tag
 - Copying Title: 'tag' to h1
 - replacing Title: Apache™ w Title: Apache(tm) for title tag
 - Replacing all 'broken' MarkDown anchors with XHTML compliant
 anchors. I could've stripped them entirely, but this way, I/we could
 build some jQuery widget to build a mini TOC with which to link to
 headers later...
 
 I think we're closer... I'm waiting on some help from site-dev@ on a
 solution to the issue of dynamically inserting the HEADER  FOOTER 
 SIDENAV on hand-coded pages (batik/demo-static.html 
 /fop/compliance-static.html--NOTE name change).
 
 I've had some issues loading the LIVE version of
 http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/ lately--timeouts, that sort of
 thing--so11/7 may not come soon enough!
 
 Cheers!
 
 Web Maestro Clay
 
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Re: XML Graphics Project Forrest=CMS migration

2012-10-24 Thread Clay Leeds
On Oct 24, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Vincent Hennebert vhenneb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Clay, this is taking good shape.

Thanks!

 Some time ago you mentioned that it would be easy to move the sidenav
 back to the left if necessary. I think that would be a good thing
 because the vast majority of websites put it to the left, so that’s what
 users are accustomed to and expect. Would that be possible?

It's possible, but its been growing on me. What does everyone else think?

There's a move to put content first, and Nav to the right, but I'm open if 
that's the consensus... ;-)

 Also, we don’t seem to receive notifications of changes to the website
 (like those ‘svn commit’ messages we received for code changes). Instead
 we receive commit notifications for the updates of the generated HTML
 pages.

 In Forrest terms, it’s as if we were receiving notifications for updates
 to the website (the ‘Publish from forrestbot’ messages) instead of the
 changes to the xdoc sources.
 
 This would be more useful if we could receive notifications for changes
 to the Markdown sources.
 
 Do you have any idea of whether this is achievable?

I noticed that too. I'll look into this and see. 

 Thanks for all your efforts so far!
 
 Vincent
 
 On 24/10/12 05:45, The Web Maestro wrote:
 I've resolved a few issues:
 - fixing header trailing '#' issue and cleaning up anchor tags
 - updating XML Graphics, Batik  FOP Home page TITLE tag
 - Changing h1 Apache(tm) to Apache™
 - changing plethora of markdown 'h1' tags to 'h2' tag
 - Copying Title: 'tag' to h1
 - replacing Title: Apache™ w Title: Apache(tm) for title tag
 - Replacing all 'broken' MarkDown anchors with XHTML compliant
 anchors. I could've stripped them entirely, but this way, I/we could
 build some jQuery widget to build a mini TOC with which to link to
 headers later...
 
 I think we're closer... I'm waiting on some help from site-dev@ on a
 solution to the issue of dynamically inserting the HEADER  FOOTER 
 SIDENAV on hand-coded pages (batik/demo-static.html 
 /fop/compliance-static.html--NOTE name change).
 
 I've had some issues loading the LIVE version of
 http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/ lately--timeouts, that sort of
 thing--so11/7 may not come soon enough!
 
 Cheers!
 
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Re: XML Graphics Project Forrest=CMS migration

2012-10-24 Thread mehdi houshmand
Hi All,

I'm going to be helping Clay with the website and I've suggested using
Twitter Bootstrap [1] to make it look all nice and pretty (read: like
Twitter/Github). Twitter Bootstrap is just a CSS/JavaScript library that's
becoming quite pervasive and has a consistent look and feel (also, the
license is an Apache 2.0!!). However, if anyone can think of good reasons
not to use these libraries, or opposes their use in any way, let me us know
your concerns.

Thanks,

Mehdi

[1] http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/

On 24 October 2012 14:27, Clay Leeds the.webmaes...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Oct 24, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Vincent Hennebert vhenneb...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Thanks Clay, this is taking good shape.

 Thanks!

  Some time ago you mentioned that it would be easy to move the sidenav
  back to the left if necessary. I think that would be a good thing
  because the vast majority of websites put it to the left, so that’s what
  users are accustomed to and expect. Would that be possible?

 It's possible, but its been growing on me. What does everyone else think?

 There's a move to put content first, and Nav to the right, but I'm open if
 that's the consensus... ;-)

  Also, we don’t seem to receive notifications of changes to the website
  (like those ‘svn commit’ messages we received for code changes). Instead
  we receive commit notifications for the updates of the generated HTML
  pages.

  In Forrest terms, it’s as if we were receiving notifications for updates
  to the website (the ‘Publish from forrestbot’ messages) instead of the
  changes to the xdoc sources.
 
  This would be more useful if we could receive notifications for changes
  to the Markdown sources.
 
  Do you have any idea of whether this is achievable?

 I noticed that too. I'll look into this and see.

  Thanks for all your efforts so far!
 
  Vincent
 
  On 24/10/12 05:45, The Web Maestro wrote:
  I've resolved a few issues:
  - fixing header trailing '#' issue and cleaning up anchor tags
  - updating XML Graphics, Batik  FOP Home page TITLE tag
  - Changing h1 Apache(tm) to Apache™
  - changing plethora of markdown 'h1' tags to 'h2' tag
  - Copying Title: 'tag' to h1
  - replacing Title: Apache™ w Title: Apache(tm) for title tag
  - Replacing all 'broken' MarkDown anchors with XHTML compliant
  anchors. I could've stripped them entirely, but this way, I/we could
  build some jQuery widget to build a mini TOC with which to link to
  headers later...
 
  I think we're closer... I'm waiting on some help from site-dev@ on a
  solution to the issue of dynamically inserting the HEADER  FOOTER 
  SIDENAV on hand-coded pages (batik/demo-static.html 
  /fop/compliance-static.html--NOTE name change).
 
  I've had some issues loading the LIVE version of
  http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/ lately--timeouts, that sort of
  thing--so11/7 may not come soon enough!
 
  Cheers!
 
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Re: XML Graphics Project Forrest=CMS migration

2012-10-24 Thread Pascal Sancho
Hi,

I have no pref about that.

Seems like Ubuntu changes for windows buttons (moved to the left),
this just breaks the routine...

2012/10/24 Clay Leeds the.webmaes...@gmail.com:
 On Oct 24, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Vincent Hennebert vhenneb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Some time ago you mentioned that it would be easy to move the sidenav
 back to the left if necessary. I think that would be a good thing
 because the vast majority of websites put it to the left, so that’s what
 users are accustomed to and expect. Would that be possible?

 It's possible, but its been growing on me. What does everyone else think?

 There's a move to put content first, and Nav to the right, but I'm open if 
 that's the consensus... ;-)




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Re: XML Graphics Project Forrest=CMS migration

2012-10-24 Thread Glenn Adams
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Clay Leeds the.webmaes...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Oct 24, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Vincent Hennebert vhenneb...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Thanks Clay, this is taking good shape.

 Thanks!

  Some time ago you mentioned that it would be easy to move the sidenav
  back to the left if necessary. I think that would be a good thing
  because the vast majority of websites put it to the left, so that’s what
  users are accustomed to and expect. Would that be possible?

 It's possible, but its been growing on me. What does everyone else think?


since it's on left now, and since i'm used to that, i vote to keep on left


Re: XML Graphics Project Forrest=CMS migration

2012-10-24 Thread mehdi houshmand
I'm inclined to agree with Vincent, that people expect to see the nav-bar
on the left. Though, looking at a few websites you can see that there
doesn't seem to be a strong consensus as to which side it should be on:

Left:
Gmail
Twitter Bootstrap
Google

Right:
Github (on your home page it's got news on the left, repos on the right)
Facebook (friends on the right)
LinkedIn (news front and centre, others on the right)

I don't know...

Mehdi

On 24 October 2012 15:18, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Clay Leeds the.webmaes...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On Oct 24, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Vincent Hennebert vhenneb...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Thanks Clay, this is taking good shape.
 
  Thanks!
 
   Some time ago you mentioned that it would be easy to move the sidenav
   back to the left if necessary. I think that would be a good thing
   because the vast majority of websites put it to the left, so that’s
 what
   users are accustomed to and expect. Would that be possible?
 
  It's possible, but its been growing on me. What does everyone else think?
 

 since it's on left now, and since i'm used to that, i vote to keep on left



Re: XML Graphics Project Forrest=CMS migration

2012-10-23 Thread The Web Maestro
I've resolved a few issues:
- fixing header trailing '#' issue and cleaning up anchor tags
- updating XML Graphics, Batik  FOP Home page TITLE tag
- Changing h1 Apache(tm) to Apache™
- changing plethora of markdown 'h1' tags to 'h2' tag
- Copying Title: 'tag' to h1
- replacing Title: Apache™ w Title: Apache(tm) for title tag
- Replacing all 'broken' MarkDown anchors with XHTML compliant
anchors. I could've stripped them entirely, but this way, I/we could
build some jQuery widget to build a mini TOC with which to link to
headers later...

I think we're closer... I'm waiting on some help from site-dev@ on a
solution to the issue of dynamically inserting the HEADER  FOOTER 
SIDENAV on hand-coded pages (batik/demo-static.html 
/fop/compliance-static.html--NOTE name change).

I've had some issues loading the LIVE version of
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/ lately--timeouts, that sort of
thing--so11/7 may not come soon enough!

Cheers!

Web Maestro Clay

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Re: XML Graphics Project Forrest=CMS migration

2012-10-19 Thread Chris Bowditch

Hi Clay,

On 13/10/2012 08:16, The Web Maestro wrote:

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:03 AM, The Web Maestro
the.webmaes...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi folks,

Could we get some eyeballs on the new ASF CMS system? We're all going
to need to update pages there, and we haven't migrated yet...
yes the deadline is close and I was hoping to have some news for the 
board. The next report is due in a couple of weeks. SO I'd like to 
formulate a pla to migrate.




I don't know if folks've been adding recent Documentation/Content
changes there as well, but we'll need to start soon! ;-)
Vincent told me he added some new content to the CMS, but we have all of 
Glenn's changes for the 1.1 release to merge in.


I've attached a coupe of lists of files that need to be merged into
the ASF-CMS documentation for FOP  Batik. I guess I need to do it for
XML Graphics as well, but that should be pretty simple!

We're getting closer to the wire, and I thought I'd ping the team
about the migration. We have some lingering issues (see below) I'm
still working to resolve, but for the most part  they're relatively
minor.


I think I've found a new minor issue. The titles look wrong on this 
page: http://xmlgraphics.staging.apache.org/fop/knownissues.html


The worst issue is an IE9 scrollbar issue that *many* sites around the
'Net are experiencing. I intend to have a fix for that soon! There are
also issues with the Batik Demo, and some expanded nav blocks.

I think I clobbered the weird IE9 scrollbar issue (Chris et al, could
you re-test?). I think it was entering quirks mode, and by changing
the DOCTYPE to html5, I was able to resolve the issue. That was pretty
annoying!


After reseting my browser cache the scrollbar is now working in most 
pages, but it still appears broken for compliance!




I also believe I resolved the FOP navigation collapse/expand issue.
For some reason MarkDown wasn't honoring my unordered listing levels
(spaces aren't always spaces?), but I ended up improving the jQuery so
it could handle 'n' nested levels in the process. This was another
pretty annoying 'bug' I discovered, that I could've lived without
needing to resolve. Sheesh!


I've retested and the expand/collapse seems to be working fine now :-) 
That's great work Clay.





I was able to fix the FOP Compliance page, but I haven't gotten many
lurkers from folks outside of Chris  Helder...

I also created a Batik Download page, since the current CGI-based one
wasn't working quite right. The new one is based off the FOP Download
page, so I'd appreciate it if a Batik'er could double-check that I
haven't munged anything too badly.


Thanks Clay. Since the 1.1 release is expected this weekend I propose 
planning the move to CMS after that. I need help from the team to define 
exactly what we need to do. I could only come up with 3 steps since I'm 
not close to the technical details!


1. Merge in content from 1.1 release. Mehdi will tackle this next week.
2. Technical stuff to do the switch (Clay can you expand on what we need 
to do)? Do I have a volunteer for this?
3. Team to fix outstanding minor issues, such as IE9 scrollbar. This 
will be done on a ongoing basis rather than to a fixed deadline.


I don't think we should have a formal vote to accept the website in its 
new form since the reason for the change is a mandate from the board and 
the PMC can't go against that. Folks have had plenty of opportunites to 
review the new website by now and although there are still some 
outstanding minor issues we are forced to fix them later by the looming 
board enforced deadline.




Cheers!

Web Maestro Clay

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Re: XML Graphics Project Forrest=CMS migration

2012-10-19 Thread The Web Maestro
Hi all,

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Chris Bowditch
bowditch_ch...@hotmail.com wrote:
 yes the deadline is close and I was hoping to have some news for the board.
 The next report is due in a couple of weeks. SO I'd like to formulate a pla
 to migrate.

 I don't know if folks've been adding recent Documentation/Content
 changes there as well, but we'll need to start soon! ;-)

 Vincent told me he added some new content to the CMS, but we have all of
 Glenn's changes for the 1.1 release to merge in.

Excellent! Thanks Vincent!

 I've attached a coupe of lists of files that need to be merged into
 the ASF-CMS documentation for FOP  Batik. I guess I need to do it for
 XML Graphics as well, but that should be pretty simple!

 We're getting closer to the wire, and I thought I'd ping the team
 about the migration. We have some lingering issues (see below) I'm
 still working to resolve, but for the most part  they're relatively
 minor.

 I think I've found a new minor issue. The titles look wrong on this page:
 http://xmlgraphics.staging.apache.org/fop/knownissues.html

Looks like the system was attempting to link the headings, and it went
awry. I'll give that a think, but I think the solution will involve a
RegExp to replace:

# Known issues # {#Known+issues}

with:

# Known issues #

or maybe

# Known issues

I found another issue, and that is that pages often don't have an h1
(that one does). For those, I'd need to copy the title attribute to an
h1:

Title: Apachetrade; FOP: Known Issues

copy to =

# Apachetrade; FOP: Known Issues

 The worst issue is an IE9 scrollbar issue that *many* sites around the
 'Net are experiencing. I intend to have a fix for that soon! There are
 also issues with the Batik Demo, and some expanded nav blocks.

 I think I clobbered the weird IE9 scrollbar issue (Chris et al, could
 you re-test?). I think it was entering quirks mode, and by changing
 the DOCTYPE to html5, I was able to resolve the issue. That was pretty
 annoying!


 After reseting my browser cache the scrollbar is now working in most pages,
 but it still appears broken for compliance!

Heh... yeah... That's because FOP's /compliance.html (and Batik's
/demo.html) are hand-coded, and didn't receive the fix I deployed for
the rest of the site (switch from DOCTYPE html 4.01 = html5). I've
fixed that for the FOP Compliance  Batik, but we'll have to remember
to cfix that for *all* hand-coded pages...

Batik's Demo works in Windows Firefox, but I couldn't figure out how
to make it work in IE9, since the Demo applet is unsigned...

 I also believe I resolved the FOP navigation collapse/expand issue.
 For some reason MarkDown wasn't honoring my unordered listing levels
 (spaces aren't always spaces?), but I ended up improving the jQuery so
 it could handle 'n' nested levels in the process. This was another
 pretty annoying 'bug' I discovered, that I could've lived without
 needing to resolve. Sheesh!


 I've retested and the expand/collapse seems to be working fine now :-)
 That's great work Clay.

Great!

 I was able to fix the FOP Compliance page, but I haven't gotten many
 lurkers from folks outside of Chris  Helder...

 I also created a Batik Download page, since the current CGI-based one
 wasn't working quite right. The new one is based off the FOP Download
 page, so I'd appreciate it if a Batik'er could double-check that I
 haven't munged anything too badly.


 Thanks Clay. Since the 1.1 release is expected this weekend I propose
 planning the move to CMS after that. I need help from the team to define
 exactly what we need to do. I could only come up with 3 steps since I'm not
 close to the technical details!

This looks like a good plan...

 1. Merge in content from 1.1 release. Mehdi will tackle this next week.

I can take care of the *new* files in the 1.1 directory, but I'll need
help merging the changed files, and adding any new files in the old
places...

 2. Technical stuff to do the switch (Clay can you expand on what we need to
 do)? Do I have a volunteer for this?

Not too much technical about it (if I handle the *new* files in the
1.1 dir... ;-). Just figure out which files changed between
20120201-201211.

Also, if there are new files outside of the 1.1 DEV dir, send them to
me, so I can take care of those as well...

 3. Team to fix outstanding minor issues, such as IE9 scrollbar. This will be
 done on a ongoing basis rather than to a fixed deadline.

IE9 scrollbar is fixed for all of the site's dynamic pages, plus FOP
Compliance  Batik Demo. I don't think there are any other hand-coded
pages, but they would require the same fix, although the CMS now
generates html5, so it should be easier...

I think I'm going to keep ye olde src/xdocs around for a few months,
in case we want them for some purpose (I can't think of any off-hand,
but who knows!)

 I don't think we should have a formal vote to accept the website in its new
 form since the reason for the change is a mandate from the board and the PMC
 

Re: XML Graphics Project Forrest=CMS migration

2012-10-19 Thread Chris Bowditch

On 19/10/2012 13:56, The Web Maestro wrote:


After reseting my browser cache the scrollbar is now working in most pages,
but it still appears broken for compliance!

Heh... yeah... That's because FOP's /compliance.html (and Batik's
/demo.html) are hand-coded, and didn't receive the fix I deployed for
the rest of the site (switch from DOCTYPE html 4.01 = html5). I've
fixed that for the FOP Compliance  Batik, but we'll have to remember
to cfix that for *all* hand-coded pages...

Batik's Demo works in Windows Firefox, but I couldn't figure out how
to make it work in IE9, since the Demo applet is unsigned...


Thanks for explaining. I think we will have to think about how to solve 
these remaining issues after the CMS Website goes live.






Thanks Clay. Since the 1.1 release is expected this weekend I propose
planning the move to CMS after that. I need help from the team to define
exactly what we need to do. I could only come up with 3 steps since I'm not
close to the technical details!

This looks like a good plan...


1. Merge in content from 1.1 release. Mehdi will tackle this next week.

I can take care of the *new* files in the 1.1 directory, but I'll need
help merging the changed files, and adding any new files in the old
places...


Thanks for the offer. Mehdi will let you know if he needs your help. I 
would imagine it would make sense if one person took care of it, but I'm 
sure Mehdi will yell if he needs help.





2. Technical stuff to do the switch (Clay can you expand on what we need to
do)? Do I have a volunteer for this?

Not too much technical about it (if I handle the *new* files in the
1.1 dir... ;-). Just figure out which files changed between
20120201-201211.

Also, if there are new files outside of the 1.1 DEV dir, send them to
me, so I can take care of those as well...


That's great news.




3. Team to fix outstanding minor issues, such as IE9 scrollbar. This will be
done on a ongoing basis rather than to a fixed deadline.

IE9 scrollbar is fixed for all of the site's dynamic pages, plus FOP
Compliance  Batik Demo. I don't think there are any other hand-coded
pages, but they would require the same fix, although the CMS now
generates html5, so it should be easier...

I think I'm going to keep ye olde src/xdocs around for a few months,
in case we want them for some purpose (I can't think of any off-hand,
but who knows!)


yes theres no harm to keep them just in case we forgot to move some 
content over.





I don't think we should have a formal vote to accept the website in its new
form since the reason for the change is a mandate from the board and the PMC
can't go against that. Folks have had plenty of opportunites to review the
new website by now and although there are still some outstanding minor
issues we are forced to fix them later by the looming board enforced
deadline.

Sounds good!

We'll be good to go in no time!


Thanks Clay. Once Mehdi has a handle on the merge of the 1.1 changes I 
would like to agree a date. For now I'll suggest a tentative switchover 
date of 2nd November, which is 2 weeks from today. Does anyone see an 
issue with that?


Thanks,

Chris



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Re: XML Graphics Project Forrest=CMS migration

2012-10-19 Thread Clay Leeds
On Oct 19, 2012, at 6:15 AM, Chris Bowditch bowditch_ch...@hotmail.com wrote:
 On 19/10/2012 13:56, The Web Maestro wrote:
 
 After reseting my browser cache the scrollbar is now working in most pages,
 but it still appears broken for compliance!
 Heh... yeah... That's because FOP's /compliance.html (and Batik's
 /demo.html) are hand-coded, and didn't receive the fix I deployed for
 the rest of the site (switch from DOCTYPE html 4.01 = html5). I've
 fixed that for the FOP Compliance  Batik, but we'll have to remember
 to cfix that for *all* hand-coded pages...
 
 Batik's Demo works in Windows Firefox, but I couldn't figure out how
 to make it work in IE9, since the Demo applet is unsigned...
 
 Thanks for explaining. I think we will have to think about how to solve these 
 remaining issues after the CMS Website goes live.

Makes sense. We also need to determine which files need to be hand-coded. 
Anything w custom tables like compliance, or complications like JavaScript or 
interesting styling or Java applets will likely need to be had-coded. 

 Thanks Clay. Since the 1.1 release is expected this weekend I propose
 planning the move to CMS after that. I need help from the team to define
 exactly what we need to do. I could only come up with 3 steps since I'm not
 close to the technical details!
 This looks like a good plan...
 
 1. Merge in content from 1.1 release. Mehdi will tackle this next week.
 I can take care of the *new* files in the 1.1 directory, but I'll need
 help merging the changed files, and adding any new files in the old
 places...
 
 Thanks for the offer. Mehdi will let you know if he needs your help. I would 
 imagine it would make sense if one person took care of it, but I'm sure Mehdi 
 will yell if he needs help.

The reason I mentioned it, is that there's a process of converting xdocs to 
markdown, so if the pages already exist in xdoc format, it's pretty much a run 
of Apache Forrest to get the necessary markdown format output. 

I'll await Mehdi's plea...

 2. Technical stuff to do the switch (Clay can you expand on what we need to
 do)? Do I have a volunteer for this?
 Not too much technical about it (if I handle the *new* files in the
 1.1 dir... ;-). Just figure out which files changed between
 20120201-201211.
 
 Also, if there are new files outside of the 1.1 DEV dir, send them to
 me, so I can take care of those as well...
 
 That's great news.
 
 3. Team to fix outstanding minor issues, such as IE9 scrollbar. This will be
 done on a ongoing basis rather than to a fixed deadline.
 IE9 scrollbar is fixed for all of the site's dynamic pages, plus FOP
 Compliance  Batik Demo. I don't think there are any other hand-coded
 pages, but they would require the same fix, although the CMS now
 generates html5, so it should be easier...
 
 I think I'm going to keep ye olde src/xdocs around for a few months,
 in case we want them for some purpose (I can't think of any off-hand,
 but who knows!)
 
 yes theres no harm to keep them just in case we forgot to move some content 
 over.
 I don't think we should have a formal vote to accept the website in its new
 form since the reason for the change is a mandate from the board and the PMC
 can't go against that. Folks have had plenty of opportunites to review the
 new website by now and although there are still some outstanding minor
 issues we are forced to fix them later by the looming board enforced
 deadline.
 Sounds good!
 
 We'll be good to go in no time!
 
 Thanks Clay. Once Mehdi has a handle on the merge of the 1.1 changes I would 
 like to agree a date. For now I'll suggest a tentative switchover date of 2nd 
 November, which is 2 weeks from today. Does anyone see an issue with that?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chris

I've got a launch on Nov 1. Could we push it to 11/7?

Clay
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Re: XML Graphics Project Forrest=CMS migration

2012-10-13 Thread The Web Maestro
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:03 AM, The Web Maestro
the.webmaes...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Could we get some eyeballs on the new ASF CMS system? We're all going
 to need to update pages there, and we haven't migrated yet...

 I don't know if folks've been adding recent Documentation/Content
 changes there as well, but we'll need to start soon! ;-)

 I've attached a coupe of lists of files that need to be merged into
 the ASF-CMS documentation for FOP  Batik. I guess I need to do it for
 XML Graphics as well, but that should be pretty simple!

 We're getting closer to the wire, and I thought I'd ping the team
 about the migration. We have some lingering issues (see below) I'm
 still working to resolve, but for the most part  they're relatively
 minor.

 The worst issue is an IE9 scrollbar issue that *many* sites around the
 'Net are experiencing. I intend to have a fix for that soon! There are
 also issues with the Batik Demo, and some expanded nav blocks.

I think I clobbered the weird IE9 scrollbar issue (Chris et al, could
you re-test?). I think it was entering quirks mode, and by changing
the DOCTYPE to html5, I was able to resolve the issue. That was pretty
annoying!

I also believe I resolved the FOP navigation collapse/expand issue.
For some reason MarkDown wasn't honoring my unordered listing levels
(spaces aren't always spaces?), but I ended up improving the jQuery so
it could handle 'n' nested levels in the process. This was another
pretty annoying 'bug' I discovered, that I could've lived without
needing to resolve. Sheesh!

 I was able to fix the FOP Compliance page, but I haven't gotten many
 lurkers from folks outside of Chris  Helder...

I also created a Batik Download page, since the current CGI-based one
wasn't working quite right. The new one is based off the FOP Download
page, so I'd appreciate it if a Batik'er could double-check that I
haven't munged anything too badly.

Cheers!

Web Maestro Clay

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Re: XML Graphics Project Forrest=CMS migration

2012-10-12 Thread Glenn Adams
How do you plan to handle the upcoming XGC1.5 and FOP1.1 release doc
changes? They will need to get deployed, then merged with trunks, then
redeployed. After that, they can be reintegrated into your CMS sources I
guess. Is that what you expect?

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:03 PM, The Web Maestro
the.webmaes...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi folks,

 Could we get some eyeballs on the new ASF CMS system? We're all going
 to need to update pages there, and we haven't migrated yet...

 I don't know if folks've been adding recent Documentation/Content
 changes there as well, but we'll need to start soon! ;-)

 I've attached a coupe of lists of files that need to be merged into
 the ASF-CMS documentation for FOP  Batik. I guess I need to do it for
 XML Graphics as well, but that should be pretty simple!

 We're getting closer to the wire, and I thought I'd ping the team
 about the migration. We have some lingering issues (see below) I'm
 still working to resolve, but for the most part  they're relatively
 minor.

 The worst issue is an IE9 scrollbar issue that *many* sites around the
 'Net are experiencing. I intend to have a fix for that soon! There are
 also issues with the Batik Demo, and some expanded nav blocks.

 I was able to fix the FOP Compliance page, but I haven't gotten many
 lurkers from folks outside of Chris  Helder...

 Kind regards,

 Web Maestro Clay
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Re: XML Graphics Project Forrest=CMS migration

2012-10-12 Thread Clay Leeds
On Oct 12, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:
 How do you plan to handle the upcoming XGC1.5 and FOP1.1 release doc
 changes? They will need to get deployed, then merged with trunks, then
 redeployed. After that, they can be reintegrated into your CMS sources I
 guess. Is that what you expect?

That's pretty much what I expected. They need to be made in tandem...

You're welcome to test out making the changes in the CMS along side the trunk 
changes... ;-)

Clay
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