Indeed, there is no code on plugins.netbeans.org at all. No one can donate
any code from anywhere on plugins.netbeans.org to anyone else. It simply
contains binaries, i.e., NBM files, which are ZIP archives containing a JAR
together with some metadata needed for installing it. Quite a few of them
NetBeans.org has forums that mirror the mailing lists (well, not always,
sometimes we've had syncing problems). My feeling is that since Apache
doesn't support forums, we could simply drop them. No need to convert the
forums to mailing lists, instead our mailing lists will need to be moved if
I can't wait for that to happen! In the meantime, can we call NetBeans by
its real name: NetBeans, with an uppercase N and an uppercase B? Shall we
all start maintaining that, i.e., using the correct name, which is NetBeans
or, better yet, Apache NetBeans?
Yes, Oracle is handing over everything
Brilliant!
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> wrote:
> On 2016-09-14 21:49, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
>> I can't wait for that to happen! In the meantime, can we call NetBeans by
>> its real name: NetBeans, with an uppercase N and an uppercase
Many thanks everyone for the enthusiasm and also for the new mentors --
indeed, an infrastructure-focused mentor or two will be really relevant. We
have of course had several discussions and mail exchanges with our mentors
before publishing the proposal.
The bottom line is, we want to fit into
It really does sound like these licensing and distribution concerns can be
solved in one way or another. Also, from the NetBeans side, we're going to
do everything we can to fit into the most optimal Apache approach to
structuring our infrastructure under Apache. We want to end up in a
situation
wrote:
> On 2016-09-15 14:15, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>
>> Hi Incubator PMC,
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
>> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ... https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansPropos
projects that have made a similar move
> and experienced higher quality as a result?
>
>
> Mitch
>
>
> On 09/15/2016 07:15 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>
>> Hi Incubator PMC,
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
>> <geertjan.wie
t 8:15 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> <bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi Incubator PMC,
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
> > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> ... https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProp
isted, are any
> available to be migrated or donated to the ASF? Or expected to be?
>
> Mac builds is an interesting topic on this as well.
>
> On Sep 15, 2016 6:36 PM, "Geertjan Wielenga" <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Notes on th
Thanks. Contacting him.
More info, this time statistics:
Total Physical Source Lines of Code = 8,281,256
Total Number of Files = 64927
Thanks,
Geertjan:
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 1:22 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Geertjan
6 at 1:22 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
>> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > Notes on the NetBeans infrastructure from the NetBeans build engineer.
>> Who
>> > from Apache i
Notes on the NetBeans infrastructure from the NetBeans build engineer. Who
from Apache infra is going to do 1:1 discovery?
Public servers:
- www.netbeans.org: The core of the netbeans.org project, as well as user
management, bugzilla, and mailing lists.
- hg.netbeans.org: 1 VM with 32 Mercurial
(Oracle)
* Vladimir Voskresensky (Oracle)
* Dmitry Zharkov (Oracle)
* Liang Chen (Oracle)
* Geertjan Wielenga (Oracle)
* Tomas Zezula (Oracle)
* Dusan Balek (Oracle)
* Svatopluk Dedic (Oracle)
* Tomas Hurka (Oracle)
* Milutin Kristofic (Oracle)
* Jiri Sedlacek (Oracle)
* Miloslav Metelka (Oracle)
likely and stable
scenario. I am sure other Apache projects have similar arrangements and
this will not be new for Apache in any way.
Gj
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:58 PM, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> On Sep 24, 2016 23:08, "Geertjan Wielenga" <geertjan.wieleng
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Jochen Theodorou wrote:
> won't plugins.netbeans.org run for another few months with Oracle
> infrastructure? If it does, is it urgent enough to block incubation? For me
> it does not look that way.
Indeed, this is not an urgent issue from the point of view of
velopment with Java and JSF": https://leanpub.com/jsf
> "Java Lambdas und (parallel) Streams" Deutsche Ausgabe:
> https://leanpub.com/lambdas-de
> "Java Lambdas and (parallel) Streams" English edition:
> https://leanpub.com/lambdas
>
> On 09/23/2016 03:30 PM, G
We're actively discussing with various organizations about the future home
of plugins.netbeans.org. We'd certainly not want to go into the future
without our Plugin Portal and plugins, there's no point in pointing out to
the NetBeans community the importance of its plugins. :-) I am comfortable
PS: GitHub may be an option too, though right now we're working with two or
three different organizations, to see which would be the best home for
plugins.netbeans.org.
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Yup. For sure.
of
plugins.netbeans.org and the range of organizations available who could be
the host of that service and the fact that we are already exploring this
with some of them.
Just my 2c on this.
Gj
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:11 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Geertjan
th Java and JSF: leanpub.com/jsf
> Java Lambdas and Parallel Streams: leanpub.com/lambdas
>
>
> Am 23. September 2016 07:50:53 MESZ, schrieb Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Indeed, I now have greater clarity on t
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Jochen Theodorou
For me the problem is that without plugins you have only the bare plattform
> and no IDE.
No, that's not true at all. The NetBeans plugins are of various kinds.
There are plugins that are listed in the Plugin Manager by default, these
are the
sal should not happen until this
has been done, working on it now, approaching people to ask them to be
added to the list, and will be writing mails to NetBeans mailing lists.
Thanks,
Gj
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> O
On Monday, September 26, 2016, Emmanuel Lécharny <elecha...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Le 26/09/16 à 07:32, Geertjan Wielenga a écrit :
> > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
> >
> >
> >> But if you are thinking 100 people, I'd try to get it down
>
> My guess is that the first 6 months is the most expensive as it
> involves a lot of time from infrastructure to migrate resources or
> figure out alternatives. My guess is, based on Daniels estimate, that
> first year is 13-30k - each year thereafter is 3-10k per year in costs
> (whether those
to NetBeans,
> > while
> > those without bold means that the contributor has an intention to
> > contribute to
> > Apache NetBeans while not having done so before. That does not mean that
> > those
> > in bold are better or worse, just that they'll be abl
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 7:39 PM, jag wrote:
> +1 (expressing unbridled enthusiasm and glee!!)
Note: The above is James Gosling. :-)
- Gj
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 7:39 PM, jag wrote:
> +1 (expressing unbridled enthusiasm and glee!!)
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in
Yup, we need to include it in the transition in some way and will need to
list in the Wiki once we have set that up.
Gj
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 8:02 PM, cowwoc wrote:
> Hi,
>
> One of the main feature I value in the Netbeans infrastructure is the
> automated exception
last 6 month (or so) on the
> initial committer list. forgotten people can create bad blood and
> disappointment. The committers are the most value part of a project.
>
> This are at the moment my biggest concerns.
>
> Regards Raphael
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Geertja
On 18.09.2016 9:46 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> There is no rush, no dates, no deadlines at the ASF. It may take longer via
> mailing lists, but it means that the larger community can be involved, can
> review, and can be archived.
Makes sense -- and indeed the more details we have up front the
ad blood and
> disappointment. The committers are the most value part of a project.
>
> This are at the moment my biggest concerns.
>
> Regards Raphael
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Nightly
Thanks a lot for the input, Leonardo! Great to have you part of the future
Apache NetBeans community. :-)
Gj
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:51 PM, Leonardo Loch Zanivan
wrote:
> As a NetBeans community contributor and plugin maker, I'll try to clarify
> some points about how
> before doing a release there is a manual stabilisation phase? Or do you
> only apply finished features?
>
> Question is whether we need Gerrit or something similar. Or is plain GIT
> enough?
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, 16 September 2016, 7
Bayer <andrew.ba...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > - deadlock.netbeans.org: 6 VMs, used mainly for propagation of changes
> > between team repositories and to the re
t; +1
> >>
> >>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Greg Stein [mailto:gst...@gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 00:46
> >>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] A
No one said we want to keep that many subdomains. We're simply listing our
current infrastructure at this point. I'd say we probably need a lot less
than we currently have.
Gj
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:41 PM, Jochen Theodorou <blackd...@gmx.org>
wrote:
> On 16.09.2016 00:36, Geertjan
.
Gj
On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:53 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Jochen Theodorou <blackd...@gmx.org>
> wrote:
> > On 16.09.2016 00:36, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > [...]
> >>
> >> Public servers:
>
riginal Message-
> >>> From: Greg Stein [mailto:gst...@gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 00:46
> >>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal
> >>>
> &
Hi all,
Indeed, I now have greater clarity on the initial contributors list thanks
to meeting John Ament this afternoon.
The initial contributors list is somehow a magic list. Anyone on the list
will, once the proposal has been voted on and accepted, automatically be
contributors to the Apache
ache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Geertjan,
> >
> > I won't have time to look at your whole message now, just a few
> > clarifications as far as committers/PMC is concerned.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > geertjan.wiele...
Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> Still, the question remain -- for somebody like that, what would be a
> criteria
> to be added as a committer after the project enters incubation?
Let's stop wasting time -- just provide his name so it can be added to the
list, thanks.
Geertjan
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>
> I think Netbeans has the balance somewhat right - but I would hope
> there would be more engagement on their existing lists to more openly
> invite anyone who wants to join; or at least make it clear that the
> whole of the community
mined? Or more importantly, if he
> wants to be added to that list up-front would that be OK?
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:40 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Attached
builds and that is supported, from your response here.
Geertjan
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > ...th
use case for jenkins pipelines, to orchestrate the build
> steps required programmatically via a groovy DSL instead of job configs.
>
> John
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 9:19 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacre...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 10:23 AM
Yup. I stand corrected and have deleted. :-)
Gj
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 1:39 AM, John D. Ament
wrote:
> Its generally not good practice to edit the proposal once the vote has
> started.
>
> John
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 7:38 PM Apache Wiki
>From the NetBeans side, we appreciate Roman's callibration and Jim's
transparency and Ate's diplomacy.
Onwards.
Gj
On Wednesday, September 28, 2016, Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote:
> (removing board@ which has nothing to do with this)
>
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:39
to be invaluable!
Gj
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> wrote:
> On 2016-09-28 00:50, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
>> Sorry, Bertrand, not Ate, though I feel they're in sync.
>>
>
> In this case, you felt right :-)
>
> Syncing with the mentors would hav
Sorry, Bertrand, not Ate, though I feel they're in sync.
Gj
On Wednesday, September 28, 2016, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> From the NetBeans side, we appreciate Roman's callibration and Jim's
> transparency and Ate's diplomacy.
>
&g
; >community then you can quickly vote to change their status...
> >
> >Anyways I'm going to go back to lurking in the background...
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >John
> >
> >
> >On 25 September 2016 at 07:40, Jochen Theodorou <blackd...@gmx.org>
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> For example, I'm really curious whether the current cast of NetBeans
> mentors are really aware of the IP review workload that is going to hit
> them
> once NetBeans tries to produce its first official Apache Release.
In that regard,
p 27, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
>> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ...I think for a lot of (NetBeans) folks lurking in these threads, it
>>> will be
>>> useful to know what voting means, who can vote, what 'binding votes' are,
>
at this point.
Gj
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org
> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > ...I think for a lot of (NetBeans) folks lurking in these threads,
I think for a lot of (NetBeans) folks lurking in these threads, it will be
useful to know what voting means, who can vote, what 'binding votes' are,
etc etc. From the NetBeans side of things, we're a large community and lots
of us are following all this and maybe someone can point us Apache
This would be brilliant. Make it happen!
Gj
On Wednesday, September 28, 2016, Jaroslav Tulach
wrote:
> On sobota 24. září 2016 12:17:21 CEST, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> > Certain services like the plugins hosting will rely on Legal giving the
> > go-ahead for it,
Or maybe a list of names could be provided of those who have already sent
in there ICLAs for Apache NetBeans (incubating)? And those could then enter
the process of having their accounts created manually.
Gj
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.
OK, thanks, will work with Wade and others who may be encountering this.
Gj
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 12:20 PM, John D. Ament
wrote:
> Wade,
>
> ICLAs submitted before the vote don't get accounts created automatically.
> Please reach out to your mentors to get your account
It really is impossible for us to follow all the (in many cases
contradictory) advice we have been given re the initial contributors list.
Here's what I propose:
1. We make the initial contributors list as detailed as we can, i.e., I
have already started doing this, grouping individual
t;
wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Correct. The whole point of Incubation at Apache is to show that t
Yes, excellent work and many thanks for the time taken on this, Daniel. For
anyone reading this -- do note that these are preliminary findings based on
the current infrastructure of NetBeans, which is going to be very different
under Apache, e.g., plugins.netbeans.org looks like it will be hosted
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 1:16 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>
> Don't make the request until the IPMC can present an argument that a move
> of NetBeans to the ASF will reverse the decline in interest that NetBeans
> is seeing.
OK, we do need to see the basis for that assertion. I think the only thing
> On 2016-09-25 05:22, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>
>>> It really is impossible for us to follow all the (in many cases
>>> contradictory) advice we have been given re the initial contributors
>>> list.
>>>
>>
>> Hi GeertJan,
>>
&
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> What I'm saying is that to make a case for extra budget there needs to be
> solid justification that a move to ASF will help the community grow.
This is the first I've heard of this.
My one data point is
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> I am not opposed to Geertjan/NetBeans team refining the current list,
> but please don't delay the incubation vote by doing so.
Absolutely agree.
> And above all please avoid giving the impression that whatever list
> you come up
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> My only concern, if you go ahead with a vote before you get an ack, is
> that you vote in a podling that may not get the resources it needs.
I'd like to reiterate a point I have made earlier: the preliminary NetBeans
cost findings are
brings (and is ultimately what the
> Netbeans community is after). Realistically, those who used to contribute
> will know the code base better than those who are just coming in, to be
> able to help guide new contributors on what to look out for.
>
>
> >
> > Anyw
ight feel for having been
omitted. :-)
All the above info can be added to the proposal, if this is desirable,
though the long list of individual contributors already there should be
evidence enough in itself that we're working hard on being inclusive and
getting broad involvement in this project
Done.
Gj
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Willem Jiang
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> May I have the write access of Incubator wiki for editing the page of
> incubator?
>
> My name is njiang, email is ningji...@apache.org
>
> Thanks,
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Blog:
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:23 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
Geertjan,
>
> What if we add a note under Legal, something like:
>
> - Thanks to hard work on both the Oracle and ASF side, the Netbeans team
> was able to get the first three repositories populated from a software
> grant.
>
> ?
>
Great!
Makes sense, was missing your reminders, now I know why. Looking forward to
reporting again, heaps will have happened in the interim.
Gj
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 at 12:28, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:40 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
>
NetBeans went through some developments during this past month, not sure
where that would fit, maybe a place can be added for it and we'll fill in
the details?
Gj
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 12:02 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> Pulsar is now signed off and also shepherd notes
Dear IPMC Community,
I am pleased to announce that the Incubator PMC has approved the release of
Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Alpha rc2.
The vote has passed with:
four binding "+1" votes
no "0" votes
no "-1" votes
The votes were
Hi all,
The Apache NetBeans community has voted on and approved a proposal to
release Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Alpha rc2.
We now kindly request that the Incubator PMC members review and vote on
this incubator release candidate.
Apache NetBeans (incubating) is an open source development
Many thanks -- so, right now, Bertrand, John, and Mark have done binding
votes -- i.e., two of our mentors and the VP Incubator.
How many binding votes are needed or is it simply a question of time, i.e.,
at the time that the vote expires, if there's no -1, and only +1 binding
votes, then the
See this page, most/several items are mentioned there, including the new
splash screen:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+RC1
Note that we're not working on the final release of Apache NetBeans, but on
its release candidate.
Indeed, this is confusing --
2018 at 3:38 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > ...The license files listed in the Rat report are known and an issue
> exists
> >>> for solving this:
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-305 ...
>
> I
, 2018, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 3:38 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
>> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > ...The license files listed in the Rat report are known and an issue
>> exis
And the open issue is mentioned directly in the vote thread itself by
Emilian:
The license files listed in the Rat report are known and an issue exists
>> for solving this:
>
>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-305
>
>
Gj
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 3:
+1 (non binding)
Signatures verified after importing the 1CCF4647 key from here:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS
SHA1 digests match.
DISCLAIMER and NOTICE look good.
nbbuild/rat-exclusions.txt, we need to work on making it smaller, but we
have documented
None?
I see this one working:
http://www-eu.apache.org/dist/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1/
...and this one:
http://www-us.apache.org/dist/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1/
I'm sure the others are still in process.
Gj
On Mon,
AFAIK these have all been removed, I removed several of these myself.
Gj
On Saturday, May 26, 2018, Justin Mclean wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > Please check that your rat exclusions have not been set to too wide and
> rat shovel pick up these issues.
>
> Correcting:
>
>
If we create an issue for removing that ZIP file, will you change your +0
to +1?
Gj
On Sunday, May 27, 2018, Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > I wonder where exactly (most) of these files come from.
>
> Sorry, many apologies, and my mistake as I looked at your last
Only binding votes from Ate and Bertrand thus far.
Gj
On Sunday, May 27, 2018, Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > If we create an issue for removing that ZIP file, will you change your +0
> > to +1?
>
> I’ve not had a chance to go over everything yet, it’s not a small
Congratulations and thanks for your great work and support of the Apache
NetBeans (incubating) project, looking forward to even more interactions
with you.
Gj
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Sharan Foga wrote:
> Congratulations Justin and thanks John for all the hard work you have done!
>
> On
Hi all,
The Apache NetBeans community has voted on and approved a proposal to
release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2.
We now kindly request that the Incubator PMC members review and vote
on this incubator release candidate.
Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) constitutes all the
The exclusions are in the build.xml in github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans.
I am quite sure that the rat exclusions are set too wide, at this point,
the idea being to resolve those over the coming releases bit by bit.
Gj
On Sunday, January 21, 2018, Justin Mclean
running
rat, as a starting point. Then we’ll all have the same results and can
start discussions from the same basis.
Gj
On Sunday, January 21, 2018, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Yes, we excluded test/*/data directories via rat exclusions on the basis
>
Yes, we excluded test/*/data directories via rat exclusions on the basis
that files within them are test data and hence can be excluded. There is no
test code here. At worst, as pointed out below, there’s pseudo code.
Gj
On Saturday, January 20, 2018, Jan Lahoda wrote:
> On
I am not sure what the point is of spending time on putting rat exclusions
together if they’re simply going to be ignored when it comes to IPMC
members evaluating a release. Yes, we can of course discuss those rat
exclusions. No, they cannot simply be ignored and we cannot be confronted
with a
project that has a long history
> outside Apache. I don't that Netbeans has any such problems and it sucks to
> have to do the due diligence, but that diligence really is due before
> release.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 2:01 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@goo
The very last thing you’ll find us doing is ignoring your advice. We have
taken everything everyone has said and suggested from the very start very
seriously.
It is for that very reason that, for example, we’d like rat exclusions to
be discussed and not ignored and for it also to be affirmed that
We have created one of many[1] issues dedicated to data files in
*/test/*data folders.
The point is that these are all data files, used by our tests, and if
license headers were to be added the tests would fail.
E.g., some tests make use of a position in the file, which would be
different (and
://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-318
[2]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-306
Thanks,
Gj
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com&g
Hi all,
The Apache NetBeans community has voted on and approved a proposal to
release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3.
We now kindly request that the Incubator PMC members review and vote
on this incubator release candidate.
Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) constitutes all the
issue, has the jar been removed from the new RC? I just scanned a
> couple of the links below but didn’t see any mention of this.
>
> david jencks
>
>> On Feb 9, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
>> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
Thanks a lot, these should be trivial to fix, will make issues for all and
merge for the next release.
Gj
On Friday, February 16, 2018, Justin Mclean
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I know the vote is over but you may want to fix this issues I noticed
> before the next release:
> -
Yes, we split up the issues into those we would fix for the Beta release
and those for after that before but before leaving the incubator. This is
all documented on the rc3 page on our Wiki, i.e., it is clearly documented
which items we committed to fixing for Beta and which for after that and
the
will proceed to publish the release and send ANNOUNCE.
On behalf of the Apache NetBeans podling, thank you!
Geertjan
-- Forwarded message --
From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>
Date: Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 10:36 PM
Subject: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.
Thanks again,
Gj
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 5:26 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Thanks a lot, these should be trivial to fix, will make issues for all and
> merge for the next release.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Friday, February 1
The Apache NetBeans team is proud to announce the release of Apache
NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Beta.
Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Beta constitutes all the modules in
the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans
Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), which
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