List archive on MARC

2003-10-16 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, a feature I find very useful in discussions is quoting MARC. In particular, because one can quote entire threads. My question is: How can I get a new list being archived on MARC? I've been sending a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] twice (took the address from the "Got a list to add?" link at the bot

Re: List archive on MARC

2003-10-16 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: In any case, I suggest youy to use the following archive which is maintained at Apache: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ViewLists You can quote entire threads there too: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&by=thread&from=386622&to=386622 Thanks, I

Re: List archive on MARC

2003-10-17 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I just finished installing an updated tomcat (4.1.27 instead of 4.0.1), and giving it a larger heap (512M vs 64M). It seems to be much faster now. Indeed it is! Congratulations, its fun to play with it now. :-)

Incomplete archive

2003-10-24 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, is there any reason, that the archive at http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listId=172 does not contain any messages from october? Whom to contact? Thanks, Jochen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PR

Re: Incomplete archive

2003-10-24 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Quoting Erik Abele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Please enter a 'bug' in Bugzilla for this. There is an eyebrowse component > for the infrastructure project: Thanks, did that. Jochen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a

First Non-CVS snapshot of JaxMe

2003-10-26 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, I would like to propose a first public snapshot of JaxMe. The most important reasons for such a snapshot is to allow users of JaxMe 1 (sf.net hosted) to migrate to the org.apache.ws.jaxme package as soon as possible and to attract users, which do not like working from CVS that much. Steps I di

Re: First Non-CVS snapshot of JaxMe

2003-10-28 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Just nagging, in order to get a reply advising on the steps we have to perform ... :-) Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Hi, I would like to propose a first public snapshot of JaxMe. The most important reasons for such a snapshot is to allow users of JaxMe 1 (sf.net hosted) to migrate to the

[PATCH] incubator/site/projects/jaxme.cwiki

2003-10-28 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
distribution, +for license issues. !Establish a list of active committers -*Are all active committers in the STATUS file? +Active committers are: -*Do they have accounts on cvs.apache.org? + Davanum Srinivas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] + Jochen Wiedmann, [EMAIL PROTECTED] + Ias, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -*Have

Re: First Non-CVS snapshot of JaxMe

2003-10-29 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, Cliff, thanks for the reply. Cliff Schmidt wrote: There's been some recent progress in formalizing some of the requirements to create a public release. The Incubation Policy document is still somewhat under construction, but it is now linked from http://incubator.apache.org. The most rele

Re: [RT] Multiple Mentors

2003-11-12 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: From the current incubations, it's becoming quite clear IMO that a single Mentor is not enough for most, if not all, incubated projects. As far as JaxMe is concerned, we had so far more problems with missing replies on [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dims, our m

Broken downloads page

2003-11-20 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, can anyone please have a look why the download page http://ws.apache.org/jaxme/downloads.html is broken? Thanks, Jochen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Announce: incubated-jaxme 0.2

2003-11-20 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
il this point :-) Jochen Wiedmann - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-30 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Rich Bowen wrote: The fact of the matter is that, in the USA, any mention of any minority (aka non-white) historical figure or group of people, by persons not in that group, is guaranteed to cause someone to be offended. I must admit that it is totally beyond my understanding how one can waste so

Re: Exiting Incubation - Status Check

2003-12-15 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, I have a couple of questions concerning http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ExitingIncubator Some of them have already been asked (with no reply), some haven't. * No non ASL or ASL compatbile dependencies in the code base In the case of JaxMe, there are several unit tests, which de

Re: Exiting Incubation - Status Check

2003-12-15 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Forgot something: Jochen Wiedmann wrote: * Check of project name for trademark issues How do I do that? In particular, how do I record that I have checked and found no issues? *When* do I check? At the time the project wishes to exit incubation status? Or as soon as possible, in order to

Re: Exiting Incubation - Status Check

2003-12-16 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, Noel, first of all, thanks for your reply. Noel J. Bergman wrote: I don't know off-hand, so I'll ask you: isn't hsqldb's license BSD-style? What makes it incompatible? Quoting one Noel J. Bergman: ;-) http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&m=106330819625235&w=2 Btw, using Ax

Re: Exiting Incubation - Status Check

2003-12-16 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Noel J. Bergman wrote: That makes the project unavailable for changing the license (to become an ASF project), but I don't see why the license is incompatible. Does that mean we may even add the hsqldb.jar to the CVS repository and to the source distribution? The PPMC concept makes this much easi

Re: [VOTE] Re: request for incubation: axion database project

2003-12-19 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Jason van Zyl wrote: The axion status page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/axion.html http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/incubator/site/projects/axion.cwiki?view=markup What is that exactly? A wiki page? Do you have that in the form of a text file and I will edit that now. Plus make some su

Trademark research results

2003-12-20 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, I have just added the following to incubator/site/projects/jaxme.cwiki. Is this sufficient? Regards, Jochen *Make sure that the requested project name does not already exist and check www.nameprotect.com to be sure that the name is not already trademarked for an existing soft

Re: donation of project

2003-12-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Matt Liotta wrote: My company is interested in donating a project to the Apache Foundation. Specifically, we have created an updated HTML editor kit for Java 1.4 that supports the latest W3C standards for both HTML and CSS. The JDK currently only supports HTML 3 and CSS 1. Additionally, we have

Re: donation of project

2003-12-24 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Matt Liotta wrote: Indeed, the proposal doesn't seem to be inline with the document in two ways. First, there is no active development community for it. Second, while the project was originally commercial in nature, we are no longer doing development on it as it currently suits our needs. That

Re: donation of project

2003-12-26 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Your administrative burden is *much* smaller. For example, by simply registering the project, you get a CVS server, a mailing list system, forums, a bug tracking system and all that stuff automatically. I'm not sure that I understood the point. The infrastructure team doe

Re: donation of project

2004-01-08 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Matt Liotta wrote: I didn't see a reply from anyone in regard to my message below. Just curious if the interested parties have seen it. Yes. However, if you want to have more audience, I suggest that you also post an announcement on freshmeat.net. Jochen -

Re: [REPORTS DUE] Status reports of Incubating Projects

2004-01-20 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jochen Wiedmann, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ias, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Inactive committers are: Robert Burell Donkin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] __DONE__ -*Do they have accounts on cvs.apache.org? Yes __DONE__ *Have they submitted a contributors agreement? Yes __DONE__ !!!Infrastructu

Request for graduation

2004-01-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, with the approval of the other committers and our mentor (Dims), I am asking for graduation of the JaxMe project to ws.apache.org. Below you'll find: * A list of open issues. We consider them as sufficiently unimportant for graduation. * A history of what we did, as relevant for the incub

Adding hsqldb.jar to the JaxMe CVS repository

2004-01-30 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, I was told that hsqldb.jar already is in some Apache projects CVS repositories. And, indeed, that's the case: bash-2.05b$ find /home/cvs -name "hsqldb.jar,v" 2>/dev/null /home/cvs/avalon-excalibur/datasource/examples/lib/hsqldb.jar,v /home/cvs/avalon-sandbox/excalibur-old-materials/datas

Question on adoption of sources

2004-02-12 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, I would like to integrate the Cup parser generator into JaxMe. See http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~appel/modern/java/CUP/ for details on Cup. It comes under a BSDish license, so that should not be a problem. I won't add the unmodified sources, but a version which is stripped down in some as

Re: Questions regarding a Clover donation

2004-04-14 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Zitat von Alex Karasulu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > First off I was wondering if we already have one for the entire > ASF. Secondly I was wondering if there are any requirements I must > abide by according to the ASF. AFAIK the Clover people prefer issuing the license for more specific projects.

Re: [Proposal] MyFaces

2004-07-05 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Ted Husted wrote: Which tools would those be? There are SVN plugins for both IDEA (http://svnup.tigris.org) and Eclipse (http://subclipse.tigris.org). Please keep in mind, that these tools are *far* away from their CVS counterparts maturity and rich feature set. For example, in the case of Eclips

Re: [Proposal] Switch to SVN

2004-09-13 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Aditionally, I wanted to see what others think in making SVN a requirement for all new podlings entering the Incubator. IT would certainly make it easier to keep track of permissions across all Incubator-dependant repositories. I still do believe, that SVN isn't suffici

Re: [Proposal] Switch to SVN

2004-09-13 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Daniel Quinlan wrote: Oh, SpamAssassin is not in the incubator any more, but boy, SVN is MUCH MUCH better than CVS. I highly recommend it. I definitely wasn't referring to the SVN *server*, which I would surely enjoy. I am talking about tools and integration. Jochen -- http://lilypie.com/baby1/0

Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges

2004-10-16 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
thorsten wrote: Ok, I am not a native speaker but ...what if incubating mentors would abuse... is a subjunctive! I did *not* say that they did or do! Lets just asume that is just blue-skying!!! If any Apache committer abuses his shell account, he could well ... Sorry, but if we start to discuss suc

Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges

2004-10-18 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Robin Antony wrote: I have been following this thread with quite some interest. IMO there should be a set of rules to let the novice commiters know when a ASF veteran who is guiding the team is really crossing the line. There should be a do and don't about what ASF members are supossed to do and

OT: Nagoya not responding

2004-10-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, I would typically report this in Jira. However, for obvious reasons, I can't: Some services on nagoya.apache.org (in particular Jira) is currently not responding. AFAIK, some people of the infrastructure team or at least some people with sufficient privileges are reading this list. The erro

Re: OT: Nagoya not responding

2004-10-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Davanum Srinivas wrote: next time, please report to infrastructure AT apache.org :) Why should I, if you do the job so well? :-) (Thanks!) -- http://lilypie.com/baby1/050423/1/5/1/+1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: Mentor(s) required for a search engine project

2004-11-16 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for a Mentor(s) for the following project. Gregory, I am uncertain what you precisely mean: Are you looking for a sponsor in terms of money? Do you want the Incubator project to adopt your project and are looking for a mentor in terms of http://incubator.ap

Re: Globus @ Apache

2004-11-22 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
At 05:36 PM 11/22/2004 +, Steve Loughran wrote: 5. I dont know what the globus dev process is. Really. Are they already in the gump? are the binaries in the Maven repository? What is their test process? Do they have smartfrog deployment descriptors (they do inside hp :). I like the judicious o

Re: proposal for donation: rapid type web services

2004-12-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Marcus Schiesser wrote: we would like to donate our project for the rapid type creation of webservices using XML input files. a detailed description of our project, and further information could be found at: http://molimo.sourceforge.net/modules/wiwimod/ Are you aware, that molimo is under the GP

Re: 'Stable' URL for podlings (Derby in particular)

2005-01-11 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
I would like to note, that the installation of an Eclipse Plugin may include, that the user explicitly accepts a license. This is quite comparable to accepting the ASL when using the Apache httpd installer or the Jakarta Tomcat installer on Windows. This license can, of course, change with any rel

Axion status

2005-05-22 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, I wonder about the Axion status? To me, this project should be considered as a failed incubation. Jochen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Axion status

2005-07-04 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Axion never was under Incubation. The DB PMC voted to accept Axion, the ASF setup the resources, but the Axion community never managed to come over. Quoting http://incubator.apache.org/projects/axion.html: "Incubation is officially underway." Jochen ---

Re: Harmony Podlling Quarterly Report

2005-07-28 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: The problem we have run into is that there are community members who wish to have at least the work that comes out of mail list discussions to be able to be used in their GPL-ed code. Now, it's our interest as a project to produce things with the widest usability

Re: Harmony Podlling Quarterly Report

2005-07-31 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 7/31/05, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or is USA so much different from the rest of the world, where "in good faith", > "intent of the law", "reasonable" and "common sense" still have legal > meaning? You didn't read Groklaw in the last three years, didn't you? :-) Btw, what's t

Re: Harmony Podlling Quarterly Report

2005-08-01 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 8/1/05, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 01 August 2005 04:44, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > > On 7/31/05, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Or is USA so much different from the rest of the world, where "in good > > > f

Re: JDO2 Snapshots

2005-08-07 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 8/7/05, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please note that although we have attempted to establish a balanced policy, > it is not our goal to have widespread adoption of projects that are still in > the Incubator. We want projects to be making a focused effort to get out of > the In

Re: a few steps before approving a project

2005-09-05 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Quoting another thread: ([VOTE] Proposal for Tobago, an Apache MyFaces subproject) On 9/6/05, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nobody seemed too interested here, though (in contradiction to the > MyFaces community, who was very interested) To me, that's a clear indicator, that mandating t

Re: What if commiters are not available or have not time to project?

2005-12-01 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Sergey Vladimirov wrote: What will happen with project, for example, FTPServer, if nobody of commiters is available or have time to neither apply patches nor fix bugs? What can other people - not commiters - can do in this situation, if they have time to work with project? We had a similar si

Re: [VOTE] @domain for Incubator mailing lists

2005-12-19 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Dec 17, 2005, at 8:49 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Please vote on the following: > > New mailing lists should be created under the > @incubator.apache.org domain, just as all of > the other project resources, e.g., the web > site and SVN subtree. > -1 (non-binding) I don't have the im

Re: [VOTE] @domain for Incubator mailing lists

2005-12-20 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Noel J. Bergman wrote: We don't support any of those. Who's "we"? As a user, I still prefer marc over mail-archives a real lot and am happy about any Apache project that's available on Marc. But, actually, I replied because your response made me angry. You (choose between "You" as in "We",

Re: Incubating java projects

2005-12-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 12/21/05, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 20 Dec 2005, at 19:33, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > I wondered why this was mandatory; the purpose of the Java package > name scheme is purely to avoid clashes; provided the .org domain name > is owned (& we'd be happy to donate to Apache)

Re: Is the incubator out of control?

2005-12-23 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
robert burrell donkin wrote: IMHO it would be better to ask pmc'er to vote not for a passive sponsorship but an active promise to commit resources to provide oversight for the podling. When asked to vote for a new podling on the WS PMC, I never understood a +1 to mean something different?

Re: Starting a java specs project

2005-12-27 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Alan D. Cabrera wrote: There has been some discussion on creating a Java specs project which would hold all the specs jars from the various JSRs as well as other standards, e.g. CORBA. Often, there are many duplicate "copies" of the source code for the same JSR floating around in different Ap

Re: Starting a java specs project

2005-12-30 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Craig McClanahan wrote: (b) JSRs that Apache does not host implementations for, but where projects might want to rely on implementations acquired elsewhere. For group (a), the current practice is to host the API classes inside the project that is also providing the implementation. That makes

Re: Starting a java specs project

2005-12-30 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Alan D. Cabrera wrote: There's an interesting idea. So there is a shared repo destination that all the respective projects public spec jars into? I would imagine that we would need some convention published in each project so that the spec jars can easily be found. I do not agree that gath

Re: Help with commons web site, JIRA etc.

2006-02-02 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Davanum Srinivas wrote: > Maven-ized the commons projects just a bit, just enough for the pages > to show up for each project (except UTIL as it is using m2 and Guthila > as i don't know what to do there). The web site for commons/util is already in place. Is it desirable to have it within a comm

Re: Help with commons web site, JIRA etc.

2006-02-04 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, Dims, I have looked into https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/commons and find it puzzling for several reasons. First of all, I do find the expected directories "branches", and "tags". However, there's no directory "trunk"? Besides, I do find the expected "site" directory, but o

Re: Starting a java specs project

2006-02-07 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
What happened to the "Starting a java specs project" thread? -- If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun. (Katharine Hepburn) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-15 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 3/15/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > would jakarta have been any less an umbrella if three years ago we'd started > rolling a huge jakarta.jar? Most likely, noone would have used it (in particular, not the developers), so you are right: Roys's definition may be formally

Re: ActiveMQ and ServiceMix reports

2006-03-16 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 3/15/06, Alan D. Cabrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do these really have to be "Apache" credits accumulated? Let's do a > hypothetical situation. Let's say that some guy puts in a few years of > his life into a CodeHaus project. Then, he has a kid. At that time the > project moves to ASF

Re: Getting the Incubator PMC to be more responsive (Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve the 4.0-RC2 release of ActiveMQ)

2006-04-10 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 4/10/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > incubator? Then at least if the Incubator PMC are too busy to get > involved on a particular project, folks from the sponsoring PMC can on > their behalf. I would think that to be contrary to the incubators intentions. In effect, it would le

Re: Proposal for xml-bean exit criteria

2003-08-05 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Quoting Ted Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Demonstrate ability to tolerate and resolve conflict within the > community. IMO this implies that a project has to force dissense, even if it hasn't. :-) Jochen - To unsubscribe,

Re: Why solve a problem that doesn't exist?

2003-08-08 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Just as a side note, commenting my own mail: > On Thursday, Aug 7, 2003, at 08:17 Europe/Rome, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > > Right, > > there might be reasons for doing so, but the typical behaviour between > > various open source projects should be different, say friendly &g

Re: Why solve a problem that doesn't exist?

2003-08-10 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Quoting Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Friday, Aug 8, 2003, at 04:29 Europe/Rome, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > Our of curiosity: where did you get the impression that we were not > anymore? > > [not being ironic, just curious, so that we learn for future ef

Re: Why solve a problem that doesn't exist?

2003-08-14 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Quoting Greg Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > However, open process is at least as important as open software. Agreed. But the ASF has just given a bad example on this (IMO). Following the discussions on Geronimo in the last days, my impression is that a lot of decisions (in particular architecture

Re: Why solve a problem that doesn't exist?

2003-08-14 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Quoting Greg Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think there is strength in diversity - there are lots of models out > there and people can try them all. True - to a certain degree. As almost everything in life. :-) > The history of the attempts, failures and otherwise is spread over many > public

RE: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-22 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Quoting "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > we have you and Henri Yandell volunteering to help admin the tool. For > bugzilla, we've really got no one who seems devoted to it (or they just stay > quiet). If that turns out to be a problem, I'd volunteer. I am an emerited committer of perl.ap

Re: updating bugzilla (was: policy question)

2003-08-22 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Quoting Andreas Kuckartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > experience with Perl, CPAN and MySQL available in case something does not ^ ^ ^ http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/J/JW/JWIED Gruß, Jochen --

Re: updating bugzilla (was: policy question)

2003-08-22 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Quoting Andreas Kuckartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > experience with Perl, CPAN and MySQL available in case something does not http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/J/JW/JWIED ^ Siehe selbe URL Gruß, Jo

Suggestion for documentation format

2003-08-22 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, what is the suggested way for writing an Apache projects documentation? The project in mind (http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JaxbProposal) is written in Java. Regards, Jochen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAI

Proposal: JaxMe as an implementation of JAXB

2003-09-10 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
OTECTED]) and Jochen Wiedmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Section 0 : Rationale The specification for Java/XML binding (JAXB) describes a customizable mapping between an instance of XML Schema and a set of Java classes being generated by the JAXB implementation. A JAXB compliant binding compiler creates

Re: Official Apache Directory Project Proposal Submission

2003-09-11 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Noel J. Bergman wrote: There are some other candidates that the DB PMC could look into incubating and adopting. For example, http://axion.tigris.org/ is a rather obvious candidate, especially considering the committer list (geir jvanzyl mpoeschl rwald). I would personally recommend to ask the hsq

Re: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project

2003-09-18 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I would support JetSpeed+Pluto+WSRP4J+possibly others eventually becoming [a TLP]. Agreed. Other candidates that have been suggested by one person or another include: Turbine Velocity Lucene (or to db.apache.org?) Struts I have a question, which has (IMO) not

Re: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project

2003-09-18 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I think that you are raising an orthogonal issue. You are talking about wanting to be able to keep up with the ASF more easily and effectively. I don't disagree with you, but I don't think that it is any easier to locate content on one massive web site with tons of large s

Re: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project

2003-09-19 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Even if all Jakarta projects get top-level (which I doubt), Jakarta as a community can still remain. It is a place where Java developers can get together on common issues. Jakarta doesn't have to dite, it just needs to find it's own correct space, more about coordinati

Re: Getting the distribution onto a download site somewhere ...

2003-09-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I am not on the Incubator PMC, but I feel that a project still bearing incubator status should not be permitted to make a Release. I do not know what exactly you define as a "release". Is that more than a distribution? An incubator project is expected to build a community.

Re: Getting the distribution onto a download site somewhere ...

2003-09-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Capital R. A "Release" build is a specific notion within the ASF. Not all builds are created equal, and no one was talking about distribution from CVS only. Would you mind to explain me what the specific notion means? Regards, Jochen --

Re: Getting the distribution onto a download site somewhere ...

2003-09-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Noel J. Bergman wrote: See http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html for the httpd project's guidelines. They use the term "release" the way that Jakarta projects will use the term "build", but the overall effect is the same. See http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi for a description of th

Re: Getting the distribution onto a download site somewhere ...

2003-09-22 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: i disagree. the lack of a release snapshot doesn't seem to interfere with sourceforge projects attracting people, and i don't see that it would be any different here. The lack of release snapshots on sf.net is (IMO) the best indicator, that the project isn't maintai

Licensing issue

2003-09-25 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, I have a question which possibly came up earlier in the past. For me I have no answer. I have started to write a manual for an incubating open source project. (http://ws.apache.org/jaxme) I would like to extend the manual to a general reference on the JAXB specification and JaxMe in partic

VXQuery release needs votes

2013-04-12 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, we need three votes by PMC members on the release of vxquery-0.2-incubating. See http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201302.mbox/%3c49a2d7eb-6514-4ffe-b583-2be1a53a5...@westmann.org%3E Thanks, Jochen -- "That's what prayers are ... it's frightened people trying to

Fwd: July 2013 report

2013-07-18 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, I am no longer able to sign this off, as the Wiki page is already closed for edits. So, for the record: Till's report is just fine, in particular his remark on the less-than-active mentors. (Sorry for that.) Jochen On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Till wrote: > Hi, > > the July 2013 report

Re: July 2013 report

2013-07-19 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > What kind of Mentor activity do you think VXQuery would benefit from? I don't think, there are any pressing issues. Basically, as I know from my own experience, you can feel kinda lost, if mentors aren't actively participating in every d

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > +1 for a rename. Using an established project name might create problems with > the trademark. Best you ping trademarks@a.o about it. I think, there is a misunderstandment. This is *the* OGNL project, we are talking about and not a followu

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

2011-06-01 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
I view this proposal very critical. IMO, OpenOffice@Apache would be a dead end: - There is an existing community over at LibreOffice. So what good does it, to build a second community here? - The afore mentioned community was built exactly, because the initiators of the current proposal have been

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

2011-06-01 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:24 PM, wrote: > We could have put a much longer list of IBM names on this list, developers > familiar with the code base via their work on Lotus Symphony (which is our > OpenOffice based project).  But then we could have been criticized for the > proposal being too domin

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

2011-06-02 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 5:10 AM, wrote: > Jochen Wiedmann wrote on 06/01/2011 02:56:10 > PM: > >> >> > We could have put a much longer list of IBM names on this list, > developers >> > familiar with the code base via their work on Lotus Symphony (which is

OO/LO License (Was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)

2011-06-04 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Excuse me for interrupting ... On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:01 AM, wrote: > LibreOffice uses a dual license LGPLv3/MPL. I've been reading MPL a few times in this discussion. But neither http://www.libreoffice.org/download/license/ nor http://www.openoffice.org/license.html are mention

Re: OO/LO License (Was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)

2011-06-04 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > This, by the way, is the source of some of the irritation from TDF, who went > to a fair bit > of trouble to accommodate IBM but have been represented otherwise on Rob's > blog and elsewhere. And rightfully so, if your understanding is righ

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:44 PM, wrote: > I am puzzled by the view one open source project should not compete > against another. And I am puzzled how you don't accept that open source *allows* forking and all that stuff, but that doesn't mean that competition is necessarily good, or just felt as

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > IMO the only negative thing then about LibreOffice is the copyleft > license - everything else about them is great. When deciding whether > to accept OO we should consider whether that and facilitating BigCos > interests is worth splitting

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-06 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:52 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > To the extent that OOo presents the incubator with something the ASF has > not faced, you are correct... these things we have no standards yet to > measure whether a podling should be accepted.  To the extent that it is > the same, or s

Re: Question to TDF and its community

2011-06-06 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > For the record; I am opposing this contribution and will vote -1, > unless there is a clear indication that TDF/LO is behind it 100% and > the two projects are on a trajectory of a merge. Niclas, several people from TDF/LO, including Flori

Re: OpenOffice: Arguments and facts. Going ahead

2011-06-07 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > The only thing I really don't have read anything about is, if we can > handle this project from infra-resourcing. Joe Schaefer added himself as a mentor, so we can consider that covered. -- Capitalism is the astounding belief that t

Re: A little OOo history

2011-06-07 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > The words "not surprisingly" were not necessary.  Labeling these words > as an "insult", while arguably technically accurate, increased rather > than reduced tension. Guys, aren't you married? This "not surprisingly" simply indicates you're male

Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice & LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > [...] their downstream code cannot be used.  Hence, the best outcome > under the current licensing regime is for all core development to be > done here, and for TDF to be a downstr

Re: Happy happy joy joy

2011-06-08 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > Is that a copyleft swallow or an ALv2 swallow? No definitive indicator for the latter, but if it consumes parts of the other, then it must be the former ... -- Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do th

Re: Vote plans for OOo proposal

2011-06-10 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > There are still people signing up as initial committers. > > Is it a sign to wait a bit longer with the vote? There's no problem with them joining later, is it? -- Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > [  ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation > [  ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation > [  ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation +1 (Non-binding) -- Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the

Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Apache VXQuery

2009-06-30 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Honestly, Niclas, but if you and possibly others that strict, then we should change the official policy. I do not doubt the reasons you give, but such a statement seems difficult to me, if the official policy clearly demands it, but insisting on more than the policy requests seems questionable to

Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Apache VXQuery

2009-06-30 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > I assuming you are protesting against the "more than 1 Mentor" > attitude that I and others have... Not as such. I am simply suggesting that we should change the policy explicitly, so that it does match reality. Jochen -- Don't trust a g

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