Re: [PROPOSAL] Propose Howl as an Apache Incubator project

2011-02-16 Thread Shane Curcuru
projects, but, hey, my opinion doesn't matter there, and I do like the sound of it. And thanks for thinking about the branding up front! - Shane Curcuru VP, Brand Management, The Apache Software Foundation http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks

Re: OpenOffice and the ASF

2011-06-02 Thread Shane Curcuru
Simon Brouwer wrote on Jun 2, 2011 6:21:30 am: I had already been so bold as to adding myself to the list, expressing my support to the proposal. I was wondering though. In the OpenOffice.org project, many community members contribute in other ways than committing code, for example by writing or

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

2013-06-13 Thread Shane Curcuru
(Please note that this conversation is happening on general@, a publicly archived list, so there is a limit to what level of details of brand strategy I will engage in on this thread.) To be brief: - This issue should not gate a [VOTE] to begin incubation. - Given both WSO2's history and the

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

2013-06-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
One comment that I wish I could express more clearly: On 6/14/2013 10:42 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote: ... * pTLP are nothing different than what existed before there was an Incubator. Yes we have more projects now. So what. We'll continue to have more projects and those will eventually

Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
Apologies if this horse has been beaten already, but... have we discussed the concept of splitting incubator operations into a handful of separate groups, based on technology areas? I.e. while the IPMC or ComDev or whoever would still set policy and provide community best practice guidance.

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 6/14/2013 8:25 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: ... Do we really want jakarta@i.a.o or hadoop@i.a.o? ... ROTFLOL! But the Jakarta project was so fun! - Shane - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

Re: [VOTE] first milestone release of Apache Drill (incubating)

2013-09-23 Thread Shane Curcuru
Apologies for my... clearly falling down on the job of tracking incoming PODLINGNAMESEARCHes. Argh. Given that this is a mix of public and private lists, I'll just say that from my perspective, closing PODLINGNAMESEARCH-16 is not necessarily required before this podling can release software.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stratosphere

2014-04-07 Thread Shane Curcuru
The brand issue is an important one to be aware of, but we shouldn't let that block progress on evaluating the proposal or working with the potential new community to see how they'd fit with The Apache Way. A couple of other notes: - Finding *factual* references to similar software product

Re: OpenOffice Proposal: Relationships with Other Apache Products

2011-06-04 Thread Shane Curcuru
robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: I plan on updating the proposal on the wiki over the week-end. I'm going to start a series of threads on various sections of the proposal that I think are a bit thin and which I could use some help with. For Relationships with Other Apache Products we

Re: [italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org: Re: OpenOffice and the ASF]

2011-06-04 Thread Shane Curcuru
is completed. I presume, and will follow up, to ensure this includes the graphical logo with the seagulls. Question: is anyone here aware of any registrations of OpenOffice.org or the logo or other related marks in other countries besides the US? - Shane Curcuru VP, Brand Management, The Apache

Re: [italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org: Re: OpenOffice and the ASF]

2011-06-05 Thread Shane Curcuru
registrations of OpenOffice.org or the logo or other related marks in other countries besides the US? - Shane Curcuru VP, Brand Management, The Apache Software Foundation http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ For those interested: http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serialentry

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Shane Curcuru
At the risk of sounding naive, why do some people continue to believe that an Incubator list at Apache is a realistic way to get an answer about IBM's corporate strategy? I suppose given the community history it's certainly a controversial issue likely to get some sort of response, I just

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Shane Curcuru
Indeed, the ASF has been consistent that monetary donations be made to the ASF as a whole, and we have not accepted targeted cash donations for specific projects in the past. And as a Foundation, we have not paid directly for development on our projects (although obviously we have a paid

OOo community organzations (was: OOo Monetary Donations)

2011-06-09 Thread Shane Curcuru
Does someone have a high-level org chart - so to speak - of the OpenOffice.org community? To be more specific, a chart or description of all the recognizable groups (associations, corporations, memberships, etc.) that are either directly in charge of some part of the OOo project as a whole,

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Shane Curcuru
[X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (binding) - Shane - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Bluesky cleanup? (was: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling)

2011-07-20 Thread Shane Curcuru
Er, have you explicitly told the Bluesky lists that the repo is about to be deleted? In very clear and plain terms, so there's no chance for miscommunication? Before we nuke something, we should double-check that any relevant parties have had a chance to make their own backup of it.

Re: [PROPOSAL] 3 month deadline on CLA item

2011-08-02 Thread Shane Curcuru
The real point is to find the most efficient and effective way for a small set of (often) Apache newbies to build a healthy community that has clean code. From that perspective, is there some way to break up this action item into smaller steps for the benefit of that *community*? I.e. a way

Re: Entries in podling juice not in incubator group

2011-08-30 Thread Shane Curcuru
Eww, of course there's no podling juice on the group, I wiped it off with some paper towels. Oh. You meant the Juice podling. Never Mind. Thanks as always sebb, - Shane On 8/30/2011 1:26 PM, sebb wrote: Entries in podling juice not in incubator group:

Re: Branding requirements for podlings

2011-08-30 Thread Shane Curcuru
Yes, complying with the branding requirements absolutely should be an exit criteria. We should also update: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html To explain a little bit about the pmc guidelines. - Shane, who would love to, but trust me, the next month really sucks here. On

Re: [VOTE] Change the name of the HMS podling to Ambari.

2011-08-31 Thread Shane Curcuru
+1, yes please! - Shane, wearing brand hat (not a podling hat) On 8/31/2011 1:58 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: When I was doing the initial trademark search for HMS, I found that there are a lot of projects (including software) named HMS. It also has the problem of being very bad to search for

Re: Accumulo incubator proposal: Statement of Concern

2011-09-07 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 9/6/2011 10:07 PM, Doug Meil wrote: ...snip... I'll let the other HBase team members speak for themselves, but my request to ASF is that if somebody proposes something that nearly exactly like an existing ASF project, and it's implemented in the same language, and it even copies their code -

Re: Accumulo incubator proposal: Statement of Concern

2011-09-07 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 9/6/2011 9:56 PM, Doug Meil wrote: Re: Highlander Greatest movie ever. Don't forget the sequel! Highlander: There Should Have Been Only One But in terms of incubator proposals, technical competition is fine. - Shane

What do Chukwa, Droids, Hama, Hise, Lucene.Net have in common?

2011-09-13 Thread Shane Curcuru
None of them has a useful description on this page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ Podling mentors, have at it, please! People (even ones not me) really do look at this page and wonder what the next big thing at the ASF will be. - Shane

Re: What do Chukwa, Droids, Hama, Hise, Lucene.Net have in common?

2011-09-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
Hmmm, if we're going to build something, why not build it right and ensure podlings have DOAP files before they graduate to boot? http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/projects/$podling.doap (or some such) WDYT? We should be able to generate plenty of stuff on the

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-22 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 9/20/2011 8:18 PM, sebb wrote: On 20 September 2011 18:50, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-24 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 9/21/2011 10:12 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: I would like to add this image in addition: http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf Because an image does say more than thousand words... Awesomeness. Please check it into the docs. And if we are ever working in the same place

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-05 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 10/5/2011 7:12 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: ... Here is how it would look like: http://code.grobmeier.de/incubator-draft/ http://code.grobmeier.de/incubator-draft/projects/index.html http://code.grobmeier.de/incubator-draft/projects/ognl.html Please let me know what you think about this

Re: [clutch.py] Split into data and presentation?

2011-10-19 Thread Shane Curcuru
Three cheers for sebb, David, and Christian - and others - for really making amazing improvements in the incubator website! - Shane - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands,

Re: October 2011 Incubator Board Report

2011-10-19 Thread Shane Curcuru
Joe is correct: 7-Nov is the Board F2F at an offsite location during the Monday of ApacheCon. The normal November meeting, where we'd expect monthly reports, is on the 16th as normal. The October meeting was indeed moved somewhat late, but I was hoping no-one else would mind having a couple

Re: timeline of Apache Incubator history

2011-10-20 Thread Shane Curcuru
Cool, thanks - I love timeplot. My version for the ASF's history (not including podlings) is here: http://people.apache.org/~curcuru/timeline/members.html With source data here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site/trunk/content/history/data Committers can see also:

Re: Suitable Names Search [WAS Re: Trademark Kill Searches...]

2011-11-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
+1 to the JIRA project and the notifications coming here. Thanks for driving this one! - Shane On 2011-11-17 6:55 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Robert Burrell

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-21 Thread Shane Curcuru
Wow quite a thread. +1 to the concept that the Champion is responsible for ensuring the new PPMC has a mentor who agrees to act as acting chair for the project. +1 to having a chair for PPMCs, to help ensure that reports are done in a timely and appropriate fashion. +1 to having the acting

Re: [PROPOSAL] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator (was: should podlings have informal chairs?)

2011-11-23 Thread Shane Curcuru
Great stuff, and great discussion. Thanks in particular Bertrand for making it a specific proposal. +1 On 2011-11-22 4:29 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ... 3. The Champion is not necessarily a mentor. Correct - from the organizational point of view, the champion role as defined is

Re: [SITE] Link to board meeting minutes for podling acceptance/graduation

2011-11-23 Thread Shane Curcuru
+1 to any of sebb's ideas. Making it easier to find this kind of historical stuff would be great. Also see (manually maintained after board meetings): https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/board-meeting-history.csv Most of which probably doesn't have to be private, but needs

Re: Does Apache Have a 'Rule' Problem, or does the Incubator sometimes just make it look that way?

2011-11-25 Thread Shane Curcuru
Amen, brother! If it's not checked into the website, it doesn't count as documentation that's actually useful to most people. Being more successful (and we've certainly gotten better) at getting sufficient consensus on the right way to do something and then clearly writing it down once at a

Re: Can (Podling) Projects collect funds through certification programs?

2011-12-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
In general, the ASF does not accept targeted donations, nor does it allow it's projects (or podlings) to perform their own independent fundraising activities. Our general fundraising policy is that any donations are to the ASF as a whole, and not to individual projects or podlings. Our

Adding branding items to graduation requirements

2012-04-09 Thread Shane Curcuru
How can we best add the requirement that all podlings must comply with the PMC branding requirements [1] before graduation? Looking over the recent Jena thread and especially incubator status page, there's no specific bullet point or checkoff that lists the PMC branding requirements. In

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-29 Thread Shane Curcuru
Doesn't the IPMC (and not any individuals, even Roy) decide what the official Incubation policies should be? Ralph's reply, and my general reading of the feeling in the IPMC is that graduation votes *should* take affiliation diversity into account. Note that some could argue Flume

Re: [DISCUSS] Prototype ASF Mailing List Request form

2012-05-31 Thread Shane Curcuru
Sweet. It would be really helpful for the pmc field to be a select list of existing TLPs / podlings. Personally, I think it would be helpful for the list name field to be a select list for dev/user/commits/etc./Other. I.e. suggest the most common set of names (and pick either user@ or

Re: key signing - issues

2012-10-07 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 10/5/2012 8:04 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:... As far as I can see, we don't do anything to facilitate or encourage getting PGP keys signed. We tell people to create a key and put it in the SVN 'keys' file. Key signing strikes me as a bit of a conundrum for us. In all other respects, we

Re: key signing

2012-10-10 Thread Shane Curcuru
Comments: - For many people, ensuring that the human who holds a specific key is the same one who has been using the j...@doe.foo email address and the john...@apache.org SVN/GIT account over a period of time is what is most important. Less important is ensuring that that human's legal name

Re: key signing - trust path check

2012-10-10 Thread Shane Curcuru
Anyone interested in details of PGP signing and tracing trust paths at the ASF should say thank you to long-time member henkp who has done a ton of work documenting and verifying release signing and keys: https://people.apache.org/~henkp/trust/ - Shane On 10/8/2012 6:37 PM, Noah Slater

Re: Allura name search - What next

2012-10-11 Thread Shane Curcuru
+1 to Apache Allura. Commented on your Jira. If you truly want a blessing, a little song or dance would be good, but not strictly required. 8-) - Shane On 10/8/2012 10:41 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: Trademarks folks, I've done a name search for 'Allura' and the results of that search are

Re: [VOTE] Recommend to the Board to establish the Apache OpenOffice Project

2012-10-13 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 10/10/2012 3:00 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Seeing no objections to my last message, and keeping into account that this list had been regularly informed about the steps Apache OpenOffice was taking towards graduation, I'm hereby asking the IPMC to recommend the following resolution to the

Re: Agenda for today's board meeting

2012-10-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
Unofficially, congratulations! The resolution passed for Apache Cordova. The normal what happened in the board meeting mail will go to committers@ later on today, I imagine, with any other actions from the meeting. - Shane On 10/17/2012 2:28 PM, Steven Gill wrote: I am trying to find the

Re: [DISCUSS] Kafka podling graduation - discuss resolution prior to graduation vote

2012-10-28 Thread Shane Curcuru
My only observation is surprise that there isn't more humorous commentary on the fact that the IPMC might be graduating both a Wookie and a Kafka in the same month! - Shane P.S. congrats to Apache Kafka, since it's page comes up on the first page of search results for kafka on both Google

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-08 Thread Shane Curcuru
(Note the various distribution lists of this mail) This is still a proposal to the Incubator, correct? From strictly a trademarks@ point of view, the name needs final vetting before graduation. As long as they're not causing an obvious problem with some other related software product

OpenMeetings suitable name search never closed?

2012-12-19 Thread Shane Curcuru
(Note the two mailing lists have different archive policies) Did the IPMC and the Apache OpenMeetings podling ever finish their name search, or bring it to trademarks@? I just ask since they're up for potential graduation today. I see the JIRA, but not any messages to trademarks@ asking for

Re: PPMC versus commiter

2012-12-19 Thread Shane Curcuru
Similarly, I would not hold AOO as a typical podling - both the size, complexity, and very, ahem, rich past history and personalities had a large influence on their growth. The real issue is: how do we clearly express these two possibilities for podlings and potential donors/contributors to

Re: How to use an apache webpage

2012-12-20 Thread Shane Curcuru
r843246 I put the DRAFT on because I originally wrote these for my personal Community Over Code site, and I wanted to ensure the style was appropriate for a path under a.o/foundation, which makes it official. Since at least Christian seems to like it, I've removed the DRAFT. No, I didn't

Re: [VOTE] Apache Oltu (formerly Apache Amber) graduation resolution

2012-12-21 Thread Shane Curcuru
NOTE: Oltu has *not* taken their name search to trademarks@, which is a *requirement* before resolving the actual name search. This is understandable, since the docs don't clearly specify this. I've taken a quick look and commented on the JIRA, so they seem to have a fine name, so please

Re: DOAP

2013-01-02 Thread Shane Curcuru
DOAP files are required for all TLPs, per the Branding policy: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs DOAP files are used to autogenerate the projects listing site: http://projects.apache.org/indexes.html DOAP files are the best way we have currently to ensure we have a single,

Re: Markdown issue

2013-03-04 Thread Shane Curcuru
See if this helps: http://michelf.ca/projects/php-markdown/extra/#spe-attr Which is linked from: http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html#markdown - Shane On 3/4/2013 6:46 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote: Hi all, probably is a dumb issue and I'm missing something obvious, but so

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Graduate CloudStack from Incubator

2013-03-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
Uh, +1 also! Drat, missed the window. I wanted to mention that the Apache CloudStack PPMC has done a great job on ensuring their branding comes over cleanly from Citrix, and has really put work into building an independent community, so kudos are definitely deserved. - Shane On 3/17/2013

Re: all podlings please update and maintain project metadata

2013-03-20 Thread Shane Curcuru
Similarly, it is a *requirement* that TLPs keep their DOAP files and other aspects of their project websites updated. So it's a really good thing for podlings to get in this habit before graduation. http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs Separately, I'd love to hear any comments about

Re: Process, policy and best practice

2013-04-01 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 4/1/2013 6:28 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: As I see it, the primary attraction here is that we could end up with *one* coherent body of documentation on policies and procedures, available to project new and old. Oh, drat. I was really starting to get excited about this project - having one

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift]

2008-02-07 Thread Shane Curcuru
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santiago Gala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 2, 2008 2:48 PM, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 2, 2008, at 1:20 AM, David Reiss wrote: J Aaron Farr wrote: snip... 1. You have to use subversion. Why? Has been a vote done? where? I vote +1 for git if a

Re: Donation of JAXP 1.3 Sources to Apache

2005-03-31 Thread Shane Curcuru
Excellent news! Thank to Sun folk and Geir for picking up the ball on this one. Note: once the papers are in the Hallowed Halls, I presume that Neeraj will get some consensus from xml-commons, xalan-dev, and xerces-j-dev as to how to actually check this in? I'm presuming you have someone

Re: What is The Apache Way?

2015-01-15 Thread Shane Curcuru
Dear David: I would *love* to see you propose whatever set of requirements that ASF infra as a service sees as appropriate for our projects, given our history, budget, and a view to ensuring reliable service for the future. Then, include a clear list of bullet points which should go into the

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 3/17/15 12:41 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: On 3/11/15 4:20 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: Great initiative! Just one question: I don't see anything related to the groovy name and possible trademark in the proposal

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 3/11/15 4:20 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: Great initiative! Just one question: I don't see anything related to the groovy name and possible trademark in the proposal. Does Pivotal have any claims to the name groovy, and if so are those claims transferred to the ASF? Good point. Just from

Re: Soliciting feedback for a detailed pTLP policy document

2015-03-06 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 3/4/15 1:41 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org mailto:cutt...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org mailto:r...@apache.org wrote: ... As a director, I still don't think the

Re: Do we need @ASFIncubator ?

2015-03-24 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 3/23/15 7:58 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: I would *really* prefer if run it via twitterdeck. Managing group accounts that way is WAY better than sharing credentials. I'm enjoying this with @TheASF right now and I think this way needs to be promoted for all the @ASFxxx accounts. +1 I would

Re: Podling Name Searches

2015-02-24 Thread Shane Curcuru
Yes, you still need to do a podling name search. Hopefully that will show that the existing name is already good to start with and doesn't conflict with other, pre-existing similar software products. If the community intends to keep the name, we need a clear donation of the trademark itself from

Re: [GROOVY] mailing lists are ready, see you there!

2015-03-27 Thread Shane Curcuru
This is obviously a question for the new podling's PPMC and the existing Groovy community mailing lists to decide, but in most other situations auto-subscribing people to a new list is usually a bad idea. I would definitely give people plenty of notice and clear instructions on how to unsubscribe

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-24 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 4/23/15 5:41 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Infra already supports Whimsy so having a TLP is irrelevant in that respect (although on reason Sam is doing this is because infra expressed a concern about maintaining a service that only had Sam working on it). To be clear: is the

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 4/27/15 10:05 PM, Greg Stein wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: It's a tough one. We could be setting a precedence here that we absolutely do not want to set. On the other hand, it's problematic (not to mention simply

Re: [DRAFT] May 2015 Board Report

2015-05-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 5/15/15 11:51 AM, John D. Ament wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:20 AM Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: ... I am encouraged by increasing feedback on the draft report. I would be further encouraged if more people took it to the next level and fixed the problems they see!

Re: [DISCUSS] Freemarker Incubation proposal

2015-06-05 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 6/2/15 8:02 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: I would proceed with the plan that the project will succeed in graduating. +1. Focus on the positive, and finding new community contributors. Trying to incubate while regularly talking about well, if we don't make it, we're going to leave and do X is not a

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 8/16/15 9:05 PM, David Nalley wrote: On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: The Hadoop PMC is

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 8/16/15 4:25 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: Bill, So I can release Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache Hadoop ?? I thought the discussion a few years ago

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: Bill, So I can release Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache Hadoop ?? I thought the discussion a few years ago was that this was misleading... No, you cannot. See our actual trademark policy: https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#products

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 8/6/15 4:29 AM, Jochen Theodorou wrote: Am 06.08.2015 08:22, schrieb Niclas Hedhman: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: I honestly see no problem with that, again provided that the artifact can NOT be confused with the one coming from Apache

Re: apache binary distributions - Apache policies

2015-08-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 8/9/15 9:37 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: The question is: do we have ASF-wide trademark guidelines or do we allow each PMC to make those as they go. Um, yes, we do: https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

2015-10-11 Thread Shane Curcuru
Daniel Gruno wrote on 10/9/15 3:18 PM: > On 10/09/2015 08:02 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: ...Furthermore, I would like to

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

2015-10-09 Thread Shane Curcuru
Daniel Gruno wrote on 10/9/15 11:07 AM: > Hi Incubator folks, > > I would like to propose we adopt a mentor neutrality policy for > incubating podlings: > > - A mentor must not be financially tied to the project or its incubation > status. > - A mentor must not have a vested interest in

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
Marvin Humphrey wrote on 11/11/15 12:42 AM: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Nick Kew wrote: > >>> The ASF project called OpenMiracl and Certivox/MIRACL continuing to use the >>> MIRACL mark would seem to muddy the water between the two. Would this not >>> disadvantage others

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
Marvin Humphrey wrote on 11/13/15 9:27 AM: > Hello, Brian, > > Thanks for collaborating with Nick and bringing this proposal to us! > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Brian Spector > wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> among cryptographers in the embedded / IoT space, the

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-28 Thread Shane Curcuru
(Please note mixed private/public lists) On 8/25/15 5:17 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote: So there is - to my mind - the obvious stuff: 1. The package description should ACK our marks. End of Story there. 2. The package description should call out those cases where there are significant

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-29 Thread Shane Curcuru
...@gmail.com Subject: Re: apache binary distributions Again mixed. Let's substitute a real case. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2015, at 6:21 AM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: (Please note mixed private/public lists) On 8/25/15 5:17 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote: [ ... ] package-name

Re: September 2015 Report

2015-08-30 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 8/30/15 9:40 AM, John D. Ament wrote: I remember asking about public vs private board reporting in the past. I'm curious what you have to report that is private (since the final report does become public record). Correct: board reports become public record when posted, typically the

Re: [PODLINGNAMESEARCH] Tempo - will there be issues using this name?

2015-12-05 Thread Shane Curcuru
(note mixed public/private lists) Thanks. The ASF has slightly different criteria for a name search than most software vendors, so this bears discussion. If someone could forward brief details of the proposed podling, what company is donating it, and any other name search details to the

Re: Incubator mail archives lagging badly

2015-11-20 Thread Shane Curcuru
Mike Percy wrote on 11/20/15 1:55 PM: > Is the ASF mail archive webapp OSS? I wonder how hard it would be to make a > couple minor usability improvements. Of course it is! It's just an httpd module, actually, which (in theory) makes install/maintenance really simple, basically pointing it at a

Re: [DISCUSS] Pirk Incubation Proposal

2016-06-07 Thread Shane Curcuru
Certainly sounds like an interesting project. One thing to think about will be ensuring you can find sufficent datasets and testsets under appropriate licenses so any project participant can run tests against a realistic scenario. Joe Witt wrote on 6/7/16 11:25 AM: > Benjamin, > > The correct

Re: [VOTE] Accept Pony Mail into the Apache Incubator

2016-05-27 Thread Shane Curcuru
VocalIQ Ltd > Richard Bowen - Redhat, inc. > Ulises Beresi - Datastax, inc. > David P Kendal - Quenda IvS > Francesco Chicchiriccò - Tirasa S.r.l. > Sam Ruby - IBM > Shane Curcuru - IBM(?) > Jim Jagielski - Capital One Please note I will (very, very soon) be i

Re: What committers need to know about IP hygiene

2016-06-02 Thread Shane Curcuru
Jignesh Patel wrote on 6/1/16 6:42 PM: > Thanks Julian! > > This is very helpful and I’d like to suggest a perhaps having a good > “default” policy in place that all incubators inherit on inception. > They may choose to change the default if needed, but this approach > installs some rail guards

Re: Making license adjustment tools publicly available

2016-02-06 Thread Shane Curcuru
Christopher wrote on 2/4/16 7:25 PM: > It might be relevant that that both of those tools appear to be licensed > under ASL 2.0, which explicitly permits redistribution (presumably outside > the private area?). I would think it confusing to have an open source > license on software which is

Re: Request for advice on code donation

2016-01-20 Thread Shane Curcuru
Alex has it right, and it's important to remember that the ASF never asks for copyright assignment of code; we only ask for an SGA grant or a voluntary submission from a contributor of ICLA signer. We only want a license to be able to ship the eventual Apache project under the Apache License

Re: Milagro trademark

2016-01-20 Thread Shane Curcuru
Alex Harui wrote on 1/16/16 12:59 AM: > I would recommend asking this on trademarks@a.o. Correct, someone associated with the podling please gather all the information and ask what you need there (which is privately archived). > > I would also recommend two separate transactions. IIRC, the SGA

Re: Hosting links to pre-Apache releases

2016-03-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
Frank McQuillan wrote on 3/14/16 6:49 PM: > Good day, > > We have moved the Apache MADlib (incubating) web site to ASF infra at > http://madlib.incubator.apache.org/ > > However there is remaining a download page for pre-ASF releases on the old > infra at > http://madlib.net/download/ > > Is it

Re: Policy should be simple (was "Allowed Champions on podlings")

2016-03-22 Thread Shane Curcuru
Roman Shaposhnik wrote on 3/22/16 4:56 PM: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: >> If you want to simplify policy, get rid of the champion. >> Or rather, reduce the champion’s role to nominating a project for incubation. >> Once the project has entered

Re: [LAZY] Simplify Champion role

2016-03-31 Thread Shane Curcuru
Marvin Humphrey wrote on 3/31/16 10:44 AM: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:54 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > >> As for the patch I suggest a slightly expanded definition of Champion, >> "A Member of the Apache Software Foundation who supports a Candidate's >> application

Re: Preferred name for package distributions

2016-04-26 Thread Shane Curcuru
(bcc: trademarks@ so we can document recommendation at stable URL) Thanks for the commentary and excellent pulling together of different information on this question! The details of trademarks are more applicable to project homepages, download pages, and the info or about blurbs that various

Re: The new project site is up!

2016-05-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
(Please note mix of public/private lists) Daniel Ruggeri wrote on 5/17/16 7:48 AM: > On 5/16/2016 8:57 PM, Mike Jumper wrote: Also, I've been beaten into submission... erm, I mean... TRAINED to look for trademarks. I haven't dug through the archives yet to know if this was

Re: Toree's One Release Constraint

2016-05-20 Thread Shane Curcuru
Gino Bustelo wrote on 5/19/16 12:30 PM: ... > In Toree we have an LGPL dependency that is not a simple rip an replace. > The library is JeroMQ and it is a JVM binding to 0MQ. This is THE protocol > layer used in Jupyter between clients and kernels (Toree serves as a > Jupyter kernel). Over the

Re: Throwing my hat in the ring

2016-05-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
drugg...@primary.net wrote on 5/14/16 8:18 PM: > Hi, all; > I've been having a lot of great F2F talks the past few days at the con > and Marvin has talked me into throwing my hat in the ring to help with > the incubator project. So, yeah - I'm game to help where I can (and by > sending this email,

Re: In-flight release in Incubator

2016-05-05 Thread Shane Curcuru
Chris Riccomini wrote on 5/5/16 6:26 PM: > Hey all, > > Airflow was in the middle of a release prior to joining Apache Incubator, > and had several RCs out. The release has already been delayed by several > weeks due to bugs we've discovered. We don't want to tie this release to > the full-blown

Re: Notes on branding

2016-07-01 Thread Shane Curcuru
John D. Ament wrote on 6/29/16 7:36 AM: > Hey guys > > I'm starting to go through the podlings to identify branding issues. > Touched the first 12 projects, for those that had websites, 4 were not > within branding requirements. > > I'm not sure if other scan give a hand here on contacting

Re: [VOTE] $podling.apache.org is the same as $podling.incubator.apache.org

2016-06-29 Thread Shane Curcuru
John D. Ament wrote on 6/29/16 9:21 AM: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:18 AM Justin Mclean > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >>> The presence of the word "incubator" in the URL is deliberate: it alerts >> users >>> that a podling is incubating. I'd feel better about this proposal if

Re: [DISCUSS] Podling report format changes

2017-02-02 Thread Shane Curcuru
John D. Ament wrote on 1/24/17 8:15 PM: > All, > > The Incubator PMC has received feedback from the board that changes may > need to be made to the structure of our report. Specifically, there is > confusion from the board members over how podlings get classified. There > is also a request to

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