Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
Hi, > I updated it to mention the SGA - not sure when the refresh will happen. Thanks for that. Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
I updated it to mention the SGA - not sure when the refresh will happen. regards, Karl On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:28 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > > HI, > > > given that we have an SGA from IBM now I'll assume that your concerns > > are addressed - please let me know if that is not the case. > > I don’t see these details recorded here [1] > > Thanks, > Justin > > 1. https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/felix-atomos.html > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > -- Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
HI, > given that we have an SGA from IBM now I'll assume that your concerns > are addressed - please let me know if that is not the case. I don’t see these details recorded here [1] Thanks, Justin 1. https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/felix-atomos.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [RESULT][IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
After clearing up some questions and getting an SGA from IBM to make sure, the IP Clearance of the "Atomos Codebase" contribution passes. We will proceed to incorporate the code in Felix. regards, Karl -- Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
Hi Justin, given that we have an SGA from IBM now I'll assume that your concerns are addressed - please let me know if that is not the case. regards, Karl On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 9:42 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > -1 until the following is cleared up. > > I can see that until a month ago it was under the EPL license. Did all of the > contributors agree to the license change? > > It also seems that the code was copyright is IBM. Have they given permission > for this software to be donated or license headers to be changed? It looks > like the SGA may need to come from them. > > Thanks, > Justin > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > -- Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
+1 from me On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 1:00 PM Karl Pauls wrote: > > > I think the problem at the root is the fact that the code was > relicensed, > > > removing IBM specific headers. If the code never had IBM licensing on > it, > > > this would be a very easy +1 but because of the relicensing, it's a -1 > from > > > me until we get an SGA from IBM. > > > > I'll talk with Tom about it and get back to you. > > I discussed it with Tom and since he did have the internal clearance > he figured it would be easiest to just get an SGA from IBM. > > It has just been received by secretary (its in the grants.txt) and > gives us card blanche for https://github.com/tjwatson/atomos. > > John and Justin, does this address your concerns? > > regards, > > Karl > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
> > I think the problem at the root is the fact that the code was relicensed, > > removing IBM specific headers. If the code never had IBM licensing on it, > > this would be a very easy +1 but because of the relicensing, it's a -1 from > > me until we get an SGA from IBM. > > I'll talk with Tom about it and get back to you. I discussed it with Tom and since he did have the internal clearance he figured it would be easiest to just get an SGA from IBM. It has just been received by secretary (its in the grants.txt) and gives us card blanche for https://github.com/tjwatson/atomos. John and Justin, does this address your concerns? regards, Karl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 2:04 PM John D. Ament wrote: > > CCLAs simply tell us that a company is aware that their employees are > contributing to ASF projects. They don't really help much in the way of > getting code transitioned here. > > I think the problem at the root is the fact that the code was relicensed, > removing IBM specific headers. If the code never had IBM licensing on it, > this would be a very easy +1 but because of the relicensing, it's a -1 from > me until we get an SGA from IBM. I'll talk with Tom about it and get back to you. > Do we have an ICLA from Stefan Bischof as > well? It looks like his contributions are post-relicensing but wanted to > check. Yes, we have an ICLA form Stefan Bischof. regards, Karl > John > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 5:08 AM Karl Pauls wrote: > > > Let me try to rephrase that: > > > > The project has been done by Thomas Watson who has an iCLA, works for > > IBM, and is a Felix PMC. I was assuming that would be enough to have > > him be able to contribute this code. If we think we want something > > more like a specific SGA or CCLA from IBM than I can try to work with > > him on that. Is that what we want? > > > > regards, > > > > Karl > > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:18 AM Karl Pauls wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:05 AM Justin Mclean > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > Thomas Watson is from IBM and should be covered by their CCLA and has > > > > > an iCLA on file. > > > > > > > > Nope a CCLA is not a blanket permission to donate this code if it is > > copyright IBM. > > > > > > I think we've been here before - so what would you think is required? > > > We have an iCLA and we have an CCLA from IBM but you want a more > > > specific one? > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Karl > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Justin > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Karl Pauls > > > karlpa...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > -- > > Karl Pauls > > karlpa...@gmail.com > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > -- Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
CCLAs simply tell us that a company is aware that their employees are contributing to ASF projects. They don't really help much in the way of getting code transitioned here. I think the problem at the root is the fact that the code was relicensed, removing IBM specific headers. If the code never had IBM licensing on it, this would be a very easy +1 but because of the relicensing, it's a -1 from me until we get an SGA from IBM. Do we have an ICLA from Stefan Bischof as well? It looks like his contributions are post-relicensing but wanted to check. John On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 5:08 AM Karl Pauls wrote: > Let me try to rephrase that: > > The project has been done by Thomas Watson who has an iCLA, works for > IBM, and is a Felix PMC. I was assuming that would be enough to have > him be able to contribute this code. If we think we want something > more like a specific SGA or CCLA from IBM than I can try to work with > him on that. Is that what we want? > > regards, > > Karl > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:18 AM Karl Pauls wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:05 AM Justin Mclean > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > Thomas Watson is from IBM and should be covered by their CCLA and has > > > > an iCLA on file. > > > > > > Nope a CCLA is not a blanket permission to donate this code if it is > copyright IBM. > > > > I think we've been here before - so what would you think is required? > > We have an iCLA and we have an CCLA from IBM but you want a more > > specific one? > > > > regards, > > > > Karl > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Justin > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > -- > > Karl Pauls > > karlpa...@gmail.com > > > > -- > Karl Pauls > karlpa...@gmail.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
Let me try to rephrase that: The project has been done by Thomas Watson who has an iCLA, works for IBM, and is a Felix PMC. I was assuming that would be enough to have him be able to contribute this code. If we think we want something more like a specific SGA or CCLA from IBM than I can try to work with him on that. Is that what we want? regards, Karl On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:18 AM Karl Pauls wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:05 AM Justin Mclean > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > Thomas Watson is from IBM and should be covered by their CCLA and has > > > an iCLA on file. > > > > Nope a CCLA is not a blanket permission to donate this code if it is > > copyright IBM. > > I think we've been here before - so what would you think is required? > We have an iCLA and we have an CCLA from IBM but you want a more > specific one? > > regards, > > Karl > > > > Thanks, > > Justin > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > -- > Karl Pauls > karlpa...@gmail.com -- Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:05 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > > Thomas Watson is from IBM and should be covered by their CCLA and has > > an iCLA on file. > > Nope a CCLA is not a blanket permission to donate this code if it is > copyright IBM. I think we've been here before - so what would you think is required? We have an iCLA and we have an CCLA from IBM but you want a more specific one? regards, Karl > Thanks, > Justin > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > -- Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:09 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > > I'm not sure how that follows - which code is EPL? > > Several pieces of code in the repo still have headers that claim IBM is the > copyright holder and under EPL license. I can't see any code - there are only some profiles that contain that notice. regards, Karl > Thanks, > Justin > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > -- Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
Hi, > I'm not sure how that follows - which code is EPL? Several pieces of code in the repo still have headers that claim IBM is the copyright holder and under EPL license. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
Hi, > Thomas Watson is from IBM and should be covered by their CCLA and has > an iCLA on file. Nope a CCLA is not a blanket permission to donate this code if it is copyright IBM. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 9:49 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > BTW if the code in general is not from IBM then it contains code that is and > is licensed EPL, that can’t be included in an ASF source release so I would > be -1 on those grounds. I'm not sure how that follows - which code is EPL? Anyways, the code is from an IBM employee that got clearance to contribute it to Apache. regards, Karl > Thanks, > Justin > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > -- Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 9:42 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > -1 until the following is cleared up. > > I can see that until a month ago it was under the EPL license. Did all of the > contributors agree to the license change? The main contributor is Thomas Watson (who did the change) - there is very little contribution from somebody else in the first place. However, if we want to go through we have Raymond Auge who voted on the contribution acceptance, Stefan Bischof who agreed to the contribution as is and submitted an icla for it, and one commit from Samuel E Bratton. > It also seems that the code was copyright is IBM. Have they given permission > for this software to be donated or license headers to be changed? It looks > like the SGA may need to come from them. Thomas Watson is from IBM and should be covered by their CCLA and has an iCLA on file. regards, Karl > Thanks, > Justin > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > -- Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
Hi, BTW if the code in general is not from IBM then it contains code that is and is licensed EPL, that can’t be included in an ASF source release so I would be -1 on those grounds. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
Hi, -1 until the following is cleared up. I can see that until a month ago it was under the EPL license. Did all of the contributors agree to the license change? It also seems that the code was copyright is IBM. Have they given permission for this software to be donated or license headers to be changed? It looks like the SGA may need to come from them. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[IP CLEARANCE] Atomos Codebase
The Apache Felix project has received an "Atomos" contribution from Thomas Watson. Atomos is a Java module framework using OSGi Connect which is a proposal (RFC) for the upcoming OSGI R8 Core specification. - A snapshot of the code, that is already ALv2, is available in a github repo: [0] - The IP Clearance form has been committed [1] - The acceptance vote has passed on the d...@felix.apache.org mailing list [2] The clearance passes by lazy consensus if no -1 votes are cast within the next 72 hours. regards, Karl [0] https://github.com/tjwatson/atomos [1] https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/felix-atomos.html [2] https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@felix.apache.org/msg49396.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
