Re: [DISCUSS] Solicitation for IPMC Chair nomination

2015-02-02 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Last call for [self-]nominations!

It has been a week since the original email and I'd like
to keep the thread going for a day or two and then start
the official vote so we wrap it up in time for this months
board resolution.

Thanks,
Roman.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi!

 after making sure that there's still an Incubator
 to be managed for the next 6-12 months, I'd like
 to open up a discussion thread on soliciting
 nominations for the next IPMC Chair.

 Feel free to self-nominate or nominate folks who
 you know. Provide a summary of your 'program'
 or not. At this point, we want as much feedback
 and discussion as possible. The VOTE thread will
 come in a few weeks.

 Things to keep in mind while thinking about nominating
 yourself or others:
1. This is a 6-12 months commitment that, based on my
 personal experience, would require you to allocate 7-10
 hours per week.

 2. This is a rotating Chair and you would be expected to
 start a similar thread in 12 months.

 3. From where I sit, the most important job for the new
 Chair for the next few months would be to help shape
 the incremental, actionable plan for improving the
 mentoring situation in the Incubator.

 4. The situation around 'professional student' podlings
 is not improving nearly quick enough (4 years without
 a single release? really?). Anybody who has actionable
 ideas on how to improve it would get my support.

 Now, to get the ball rolling, here are the two folks I'd
 like to suggest as future IPMC Chairs:
 * Ted Dunning
 * Henry Saputra
 In my view, both have demonstrated an exceptional
 understanding of the 'Apache Way', dedication to
 mentoring podlings they are responsible for and enthusiasm
 around bringing new communities into the ASF family.
 On top of that, both have exercised a remarkable skill
 in conducting public discussions and driving towards
 consensus.

 Thanks,
 Roman.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Solicitation for IPMC Chair nomination

2015-01-27 Thread Adunuthula, Seshu
+1 for Ted Dunning and Henry Saputra

Both are mentors of Apache Kylin and such fantastic mentors they areŠ

Regards
Seshu Adunuthula


On 1/26/15, 11:16 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:

+1 for Ted Dunning.

Ted has passion for the Incubator's mission.  He is an excellent consensus
builder, with the right mix of patience and advocacy.  He can get the job
done
while sending judicious amounts of email, which is important in keeping
traffic on general@incubator under control.  He is politically adept and
tough
enough to handle the challenges of interfacing with the Board and with
outside
organizations.  If he will take the job, the Incubator would be lucky to
have
him.

FWIW, I don't have the expectation that Ted or any other Chair will *lead*
reform -- Apache Chairs are not executives.   But if Ted chooses to be
be an active moderator, I have faith that he will do as well as anyone
could
in guiding consensus for whatever bottom-up proposals emerge.

Marvin Humphrey

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi!

 after making sure that there's still an Incubator
 to be managed for the next 6-12 months, I'd like
 to open up a discussion thread on soliciting
 nominations for the next IPMC Chair.

 Feel free to self-nominate or nominate folks who
 you know. Provide a summary of your 'program'
 or not. At this point, we want as much feedback
 and discussion as possible. The VOTE thread will
 come in a few weeks.

 Things to keep in mind while thinking about nominating
 yourself or others:
1. This is a 6-12 months commitment that, based on my
 personal experience, would require you to allocate 7-10
 hours per week.

 2. This is a rotating Chair and you would be expected to
 start a similar thread in 12 months.

 3. From where I sit, the most important job for the new
 Chair for the next few months would be to help shape
 the incremental, actionable plan for improving the
 mentoring situation in the Incubator.

 4. The situation around 'professional student' podlings
 is not improving nearly quick enough (4 years without
 a single release? really?). Anybody who has actionable
 ideas on how to improve it would get my support.

 Now, to get the ball rolling, here are the two folks I'd
 like to suggest as future IPMC Chairs:
 * Ted Dunning
 * Henry Saputra
 In my view, both have demonstrated an exceptional
 understanding of the 'Apache Way', dedication to
 mentoring podlings they are responsible for and enthusiasm
 around bringing new communities into the ASF family.
 On top of that, both have exercised a remarkable skill
 in conducting public discussions and driving towards
 consensus.

 Thanks,
 Roman.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Solicitation for IPMC Chair nomination

2015-01-27 Thread Henry Saputra
Thanks for the nomination, Roman. And thanks for support from Seshu and Luke.

I am trying my best to help projects coming to Apache incubator to
understand the Apache way and be prepared to be active and healthy top
level project.

However, after working with Ted in several podlings, I would love to
throw my VOTE for him, if he accept the nominations.
Like Marvin said in his reply, Ted is politically adept and have a lot
of experience to handle the challenges of interfacing with the Board
and with outside
organizations, which very crucial for working in VP of incubator.


- Henry


On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi!

 after making sure that there's still an Incubator
 to be managed for the next 6-12 months, I'd like
 to open up a discussion thread on soliciting
 nominations for the next IPMC Chair.

 Feel free to self-nominate or nominate folks who
 you know. Provide a summary of your 'program'
 or not. At this point, we want as much feedback
 and discussion as possible. The VOTE thread will
 come in a few weeks.

 Things to keep in mind while thinking about nominating
 yourself or others:
1. This is a 6-12 months commitment that, based on my
 personal experience, would require you to allocate 7-10
 hours per week.

 2. This is a rotating Chair and you would be expected to
 start a similar thread in 12 months.

 3. From where I sit, the most important job for the new
 Chair for the next few months would be to help shape
 the incremental, actionable plan for improving the
 mentoring situation in the Incubator.

 4. The situation around 'professional student' podlings
 is not improving nearly quick enough (4 years without
 a single release? really?). Anybody who has actionable
 ideas on how to improve it would get my support.

 Now, to get the ball rolling, here are the two folks I'd
 like to suggest as future IPMC Chairs:
 * Ted Dunning
 * Henry Saputra
 In my view, both have demonstrated an exceptional
 understanding of the 'Apache Way', dedication to
 mentoring podlings they are responsible for and enthusiasm
 around bringing new communities into the ASF family.
 On top of that, both have exercised a remarkable skill
 in conducting public discussions and driving towards
 consensus.

 Thanks,
 Roman.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Solicitation for IPMC Chair nomination

2015-01-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...I would be happy and enthusiastic to help by working with the Incubator
 project in this role

+1, thanks!

We have a growing number of survivors who demonstrate that it's
possible to do a great job as an Incubator PMC chair without losing
your sanity (at least not completely ;-). Looking forward to another
one!

-Bertrand

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RE: [DISCUSS] Solicitation for IPMC Chair nomination

2015-01-27 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
+1 (and on a personal note, thank you for making possible to, once again, avoid 
throwing my own hat into the ring).

Ross


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Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 12:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Solicitation for IPMC Chair nomination

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...I would be happy and enthusiastic to help by working with the 
 Incubator project in this role

+1, thanks!

We have a growing number of survivors who demonstrate that it's possible to do 
a great job as an Incubator PMC chair without losing your sanity (at least not 
completely ;-). Looking forward to another one!

-Bertrand

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Re: [DISCUSS] Solicitation for IPMC Chair nomination

2015-01-27 Thread Ted Dunning
Thanks to the Kylin guys for their support.  And to Marvin.  And Roman.

I have spent a lot of time considering and have decided that I will accept
this nomination. The source of my reticence is that if I take on this
responsibility, I will have to become part of the missing-mentor problem
and pull back from some of the mentorship work that I am doing.

My feeling is that this won't be a huge problem. In all of the projects I
am helping now, there are other active mentors and most of the projects are
maturing rapidly (like Calcite) or have graduated (like Flink). Henry is on
some of the new projects and Roman is on another so they all seem to be in
good hands.

So,

I would be happy and enthusiastic to help by working with the Incubator
project in this role.



On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Thanks for the nomination, Roman. And thanks for support from Seshu and
 Luke.

 I am trying my best to help projects coming to Apache incubator to
 understand the Apache way and be prepared to be active and healthy top
 level project.

 However, after working with Ted in several podlings, I would love to
 throw my VOTE for him, if he accept the nominations.
 Like Marvin said in his reply, Ted is politically adept and have a lot
 of experience to handle the challenges of interfacing with the Board
 and with outside
 organizations, which very crucial for working in VP of incubator.


 - Henry


 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
  Hi!
 
  after making sure that there's still an Incubator
  to be managed for the next 6-12 months, I'd like
  to open up a discussion thread on soliciting
  nominations for the next IPMC Chair.
 
  Feel free to self-nominate or nominate folks who
  you know. Provide a summary of your 'program'
  or not. At this point, we want as much feedback
  and discussion as possible. The VOTE thread will
  come in a few weeks.
 
  Things to keep in mind while thinking about nominating
  yourself or others:
 1. This is a 6-12 months commitment that, based on my
  personal experience, would require you to allocate 7-10
  hours per week.
 
  2. This is a rotating Chair and you would be expected to
  start a similar thread in 12 months.
 
  3. From where I sit, the most important job for the new
  Chair for the next few months would be to help shape
  the incremental, actionable plan for improving the
  mentoring situation in the Incubator.
 
  4. The situation around 'professional student' podlings
  is not improving nearly quick enough (4 years without
  a single release? really?). Anybody who has actionable
  ideas on how to improve it would get my support.
 
  Now, to get the ball rolling, here are the two folks I'd
  like to suggest as future IPMC Chairs:
  * Ted Dunning
  * Henry Saputra
  In my view, both have demonstrated an exceptional
  understanding of the 'Apache Way', dedication to
  mentoring podlings they are responsible for and enthusiasm
  around bringing new communities into the ASF family.
  On top of that, both have exercised a remarkable skill
  in conducting public discussions and driving towards
  consensus.
 
  Thanks,
  Roman.
 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Solicitation for IPMC Chair nomination

2015-01-27 Thread Luke Han
+1 for Ted Dunning and Henry Saputra

They both are very actively helping Kylin incubating from the beginning.
Their passion, professional and experience brings great value for our
incubator project. With their very nice coach, all of us gained a lot of
from them, especially about run open source community which is more
important than coding itself.


Thanks
Luke


2015-01-27 22:12 GMT+08:00 Adunuthula, Seshu sadunuth...@ebay.com:

 +1 for Ted Dunning and Henry Saputra

 Both are mentors of Apache Kylin and such fantastic mentors they areŠ

 Regards
 Seshu Adunuthula


 On 1/26/15, 11:16 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:

 +1 for Ted Dunning.
 
 Ted has passion for the Incubator's mission.  He is an excellent consensus
 builder, with the right mix of patience and advocacy.  He can get the job
 done
 while sending judicious amounts of email, which is important in keeping
 traffic on general@incubator under control.  He is politically adept and
 tough
 enough to handle the challenges of interfacing with the Board and with
 outside
 organizations.  If he will take the job, the Incubator would be lucky to
 have
 him.
 
 FWIW, I don't have the expectation that Ted or any other Chair will *lead*
 reform -- Apache Chairs are not executives.   But if Ted chooses to be
 be an active moderator, I have faith that he will do as well as anyone
 could
 in guiding consensus for whatever bottom-up proposals emerge.
 
 Marvin Humphrey
 
 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org
 wrote:
  Hi!
 
  after making sure that there's still an Incubator
  to be managed for the next 6-12 months, I'd like
  to open up a discussion thread on soliciting
  nominations for the next IPMC Chair.
 
  Feel free to self-nominate or nominate folks who
  you know. Provide a summary of your 'program'
  or not. At this point, we want as much feedback
  and discussion as possible. The VOTE thread will
  come in a few weeks.
 
  Things to keep in mind while thinking about nominating
  yourself or others:
 1. This is a 6-12 months commitment that, based on my
  personal experience, would require you to allocate 7-10
  hours per week.
 
  2. This is a rotating Chair and you would be expected to
  start a similar thread in 12 months.
 
  3. From where I sit, the most important job for the new
  Chair for the next few months would be to help shape
  the incremental, actionable plan for improving the
  mentoring situation in the Incubator.
 
  4. The situation around 'professional student' podlings
  is not improving nearly quick enough (4 years without
  a single release? really?). Anybody who has actionable
  ideas on how to improve it would get my support.
 
  Now, to get the ball rolling, here are the two folks I'd
  like to suggest as future IPMC Chairs:
  * Ted Dunning
  * Henry Saputra
  In my view, both have demonstrated an exceptional
  understanding of the 'Apache Way', dedication to
  mentoring podlings they are responsible for and enthusiasm
  around bringing new communities into the ASF family.
  On top of that, both have exercised a remarkable skill
  in conducting public discussions and driving towards
  consensus.
 
  Thanks,
  Roman.
 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Solicitation for IPMC Chair nomination

2015-01-26 Thread Alan D. Cabrera

 On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 after making sure that there's still an Incubator
 to be managed for the next 6-12 months, I'd like
 to open up a discussion thread on soliciting
 nominations for the next IPMC Chair.
 
 Feel free to self-nominate or nominate folks who
 you know. Provide a summary of your 'program'
 or not. At this point, we want as much feedback
 and discussion as possible. The VOTE thread will
 come in a few weeks.
 
 Things to keep in mind while thinking about nominating
 yourself or others:
   1. This is a 6-12 months commitment that, based on my
personal experience, would require you to allocate 7-10
hours per week.
 
2. This is a rotating Chair and you would be expected to
start a similar thread in 12 months.

FYI, this is a tradition, not a rule; albeit a very good tradition.

3. From where I sit, the most important job for the new
Chair for the next few months would be to help shape
the incremental, actionable plan for improving the
mentoring situation in the Incubator.
 
4. The situation around 'professional student' podlings
is not improving nearly quick enough (4 years without
a single release? really?). Anybody who has actionable
ideas on how to improve it would get my support.
 
 Now, to get the ball rolling, here are the two folks I'd
 like to suggest as future IPMC Chairs:
* Ted Dunning
* Henry Saputra
 In my view, both have demonstrated an exceptional
 understanding of the 'Apache Way', dedication to
 mentoring podlings they are responsible for and enthusiasm
 around bringing new communities into the ASF family.
 On top of that, both have exercised a remarkable skill
 in conducting public discussions and driving towards
 consensus.
 
 Thanks,
 Roman.
 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Solicitation for IPMC Chair nomination

2015-01-26 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
 Things to keep in mind while thinking about nominating
 yourself or others:
   1. This is a 6-12 months commitment that, based on my
personal experience, would require you to allocate 7-10
hours per week.

2. This is a rotating Chair and you would be expected to
start a similar thread in 12 months.

 FYI, this is a tradition, not a rule; albeit a very good tradition.

True, but FWIW: anybody NOT firmly sharing this
expectation will fail to receive support of a few IPMC
members (including yours truly).

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Solicitation for IPMC Chair nomination

2015-01-26 Thread Marvin Humphrey
+1 for Ted Dunning.

Ted has passion for the Incubator's mission.  He is an excellent consensus
builder, with the right mix of patience and advocacy.  He can get the job done
while sending judicious amounts of email, which is important in keeping
traffic on general@incubator under control.  He is politically adept and tough
enough to handle the challenges of interfacing with the Board and with outside
organizations.  If he will take the job, the Incubator would be lucky to have
him.

FWIW, I don't have the expectation that Ted or any other Chair will *lead*
reform -- Apache Chairs are not executives.   But if Ted chooses to be
be an active moderator, I have faith that he will do as well as anyone could
in guiding consensus for whatever bottom-up proposals emerge.

Marvin Humphrey

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi!

 after making sure that there's still an Incubator
 to be managed for the next 6-12 months, I'd like
 to open up a discussion thread on soliciting
 nominations for the next IPMC Chair.

 Feel free to self-nominate or nominate folks who
 you know. Provide a summary of your 'program'
 or not. At this point, we want as much feedback
 and discussion as possible. The VOTE thread will
 come in a few weeks.

 Things to keep in mind while thinking about nominating
 yourself or others:
1. This is a 6-12 months commitment that, based on my
 personal experience, would require you to allocate 7-10
 hours per week.

 2. This is a rotating Chair and you would be expected to
 start a similar thread in 12 months.

 3. From where I sit, the most important job for the new
 Chair for the next few months would be to help shape
 the incremental, actionable plan for improving the
 mentoring situation in the Incubator.

 4. The situation around 'professional student' podlings
 is not improving nearly quick enough (4 years without
 a single release? really?). Anybody who has actionable
 ideas on how to improve it would get my support.

 Now, to get the ball rolling, here are the two folks I'd
 like to suggest as future IPMC Chairs:
 * Ted Dunning
 * Henry Saputra
 In my view, both have demonstrated an exceptional
 understanding of the 'Apache Way', dedication to
 mentoring podlings they are responsible for and enthusiasm
 around bringing new communities into the ASF family.
 On top of that, both have exercised a remarkable skill
 in conducting public discussions and driving towards
 consensus.

 Thanks,
 Roman.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Solicitation for IPMC Chair nomination

2015-01-26 Thread Alan D. Cabrera

 On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
 
 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com 
 wrote:
 Things to keep in mind while thinking about nominating
 yourself or others:
  1. This is a 6-12 months commitment that, based on my
   personal experience, would require you to allocate 7-10
   hours per week.
 
   2. This is a rotating Chair and you would be expected to
   start a similar thread in 12 months.
 
 FYI, this is a tradition, not a rule; albeit a very good tradition.
 
 True, but FWIW: anybody NOT firmly sharing this
 expectation will fail to receive support of a few IPMC
 members (including yours truly).

And me as well!  :)


Regards,
Alan



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