Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-17 Thread Ted Dunning
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:28 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > ... > >> such people can earn merit by becoming involved with the community and > > helping out where they can. > > > > In theory, that sounds good, but as a practical matter, how many people > > that have ever

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Ralph Goers
> On Apr 16, 2018, at 4:22 PM, toki wrote: > > On 04/16/2018 07:37 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: >> IMO, it is inappropriate to add project managers to a project as a committer >> just because they are employed by a company that has committers who are paid >> to work on the

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:22 PM, toki wrote: >... > In theory, that sounds good, but as a practical matter, how many people > that have ever been on the ASF board of directors neither know/knew, nor > use(d) any programming languages in getting there? IOW, they got there

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Having started on a project as such a “Management" person …. > On Apr 16, 2018, at 4:22 PM, toki wrote: > > On 04/16/2018 07:37 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: >> IMO, it is inappropriate to add project managers to a project as a committer >> just because they are employed

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread toki
On 04/16/2018 07:37 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > IMO, it is inappropriate to add project managers to a project as a committer > just because they are employed by a company that has committers who are paid > to work on the project. There are some companies who have a person whose sole duty is manage

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Apr 16, 2018, at 1:52 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Ralph Goers > wrote: > >> >> >>> On Apr 16, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Maxime Beauchemin < >> maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> About PMs, or other

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Ted Dunning
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > > > On Apr 16, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Maxime Beauchemin < > maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > About PMs, or other "non-coding contributors", it's pretty common to have > > them at sponsoring organizations.

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Ralph Goers
> On Apr 16, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Maxime Beauchemin > wrote: > > About PMs, or other "non-coding contributors", it's pretty common to have > them at sponsoring organizations. For example both Airbnb and Lyft both > have a dedicated PM for Apache Superset. While they

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - > Another point I didn't bring up in my original email is the obsolescence of > Apache's svn binaries repository in the light of commonly used package > manager (Pypi.org for Python, npm for Javacsript, ..., Maven for Java(?) , > ...). While I understand the importance of the ASF being

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Maxime Beauchemin
Thanks everyone for all the input! I had not looked at https://lists.apache.org/ in a while and it looks pretty usable along with the "site:" Google trick. Thanks to those who made "Apache Mail Archives" happen! About PMs, or other "non-coding contributors", it's pretty common to have them at

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread Ralph Goers
> On Apr 11, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Maxime Beauchemin > wrote: > > Hi general@incubator! > > This is an email discussing the challenges we are facing while using Github > / Gitbox for our ASF project and wanted to start a thread to discuss > solutions and ways we can

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-11 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 04/11/2018 09:58 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: 3. The mailing list is a bit dated. Totally true. Pony helps a bit: https://lists.apache.org/ But not all that much. Spam shouldn't be much of a problem (it isn't on other lists that I have been part of). Aside from self-inflicted spam like

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-11 Thread Ted Dunning
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Maxime Beauchemin < maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi general@incubator! > > This is an email discussing the challenges we are facing while using Github > / Gitbox for our ASF project and wanted to start a thread to discuss > solutions and ways we can

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-11 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - > On Apr 11, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Maxime Beauchemin > wrote: > > Hi general@incubator! > > This is an email discussing the challenges we are facing while using Github > / Gitbox for our ASF project and wanted to start a thread to discuss > solutions and ways we

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-11 Thread toki
On 04/11/2018 06:11 PM, Maxime Beauchemin wrote: > 3. The mailing list is a bit dated. I'm saying "a bit" here as an attempt ... > searchable. Something like Google Groups would be a huge step forward here. I'd suggest Groups.IO over Google Groups, if only because one of its features is: